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Clinton, Obama or Edwards?
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 02:05 am |
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Quoting teaschip1: Yes, and the UK could also get a better dental plan. No offense, but the men in the UK have horrific teeth..  |
You didn't take it personally, did you? 
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 02:09 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting teaschip1: Yes, and the UK could also get a better dental plan. No offense, but the men in the UK have horrific teeth.. |
You didn't take it personally, did you? |
No not at all...
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 02:11 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting catwoman: socialized healthcare is evil. It's just a bad idea based on a good intention. |
Actually it is a very fair and good system. Unfortunately, thanks to greedy pharmaceutical companies who charge our National Health Service extortionate amounts for drugs in recent years (£25,000 a year for a particular cancer pill for one person, for example) it is becoming harder and harder to maintain the same standard.
Having said that, it is still a good system. The rich still have their nice private healthcare if they want, and insurance policies are also available, same as you, if people choose (and can afford) it. |
I agree with you AEnigma, the US healthcare system is a disgrace IMHO...( ) we do pay taxes, but it doesn't go to our healthcare...even then....the insurance industry lords it over us all dictation what type of healthcare we can have. I prefer homeopathy or some alternative methods, but my insurance will only allow what they deem fit.
Sometimes I feel like we are all guina pigs for the wealthy...knows what it is, Russian roulette?
Did you see Michael Moore's movie Sicko? I don't think healthcare should be a profit driven industry. Can't we do things just because they are good things to do? Even then the home care workers are seriously underpaid, but drugs cost a fortune. Get an aspirin in a US hospital and it costs a small fortune.
I went to an emergency room once with a fever of 104f/40.c....they put me on a stretcher with a thin blanket, took a chest X-ray...and it cost me $1,000..I did not even get an aspirin, or water...they sent me home and told me to rest and take some aspirins.... 
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 02:27 am |
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Well most people in the U.S. don't go to the emergency room to get an aspirin.. I have worked in a hospital and will tell you the non-urgent medical conditions people come in with. You have people with major medical issues, heart attacks etc..then people who have paper cuts. That is why most co-pays are much higher for the emergency room than normal doctor visits or urgent care due to people abusing the urgency to be seen in the emergency room.
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 02:47 am |
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It is quite obvious that the cost of health care is skyrocketting and getting out of control. Something really has to be done about it, but I hope that the solution will not be a socialized system.
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 09:38 am |
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For those of you interested in American politics, here is an interesting site...
http://www.dehp.net/candidate/
I entered my preferences on the issues that are important to me and it matched perfectly with the WOMAN who I had planned on voting for.
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 05:44 pm |
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Quoting girleegirl: For those of you interested in American politics, here is an interesting site...
http://www.dehp.net/candidate/
I entered my preferences on the issues that are important to me and it matched perfectly with the WOMAN who I had planned on voting for. |
This is a great resource. Thx, girlee!
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 06:08 pm |
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Quoting girleegirl: For those of you interested in American politics, here is an interesting site...
http://www.dehp.net/candidate/ |
The winner is Kucinich, followed by Clinton! That's what I've been leaning towards!
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 07:49 pm |
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Mine is (as if I am going to vote )
19 Kucinich
16 Richardson
15 Obama
15 Edwards
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 08:01 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting girleegirl: For those of you interested in American politics, here is an interesting site...
http://www.dehp.net/candidate/ |
The winner is Kucinich, followed by Clinton! That's what I've been leaning towards! |
Mine was Clinton, Kucinich and Edwards. Almost had me to the money...my leanings are Clinton then Edwards.
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 08:27 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: Well most people in the U.S. don't go to the emergency room to get an aspirin.. I have worked in a hospital and will tell you the non-urgent medical conditions people come in with. You have people with major medical issues, heart attacks etc..then people who have paper cuts. That is why most co-pays are much higher for the emergency room than normal doctor visits or urgent care due to people abusing the urgency to be seen in the emergency room. |
It is obvious, Teas, from a lot of the posts that a good many Americans have no idea what the healthcare industry is and why it is broken. What is scary is that, these are the very same people who vote for anyone who talks about a universal healthcare. Without understanding why healthcare is broken, how can we expect people to vote intelligently. I would love for everyone to work in a hospital for just a few days. Yes, taking care of people is a noble cause, BUT it is an EXPENSIVE cause. A lot goes into giving a patient an aspirin....I will give you an example...
The aspirin... A nurse can't just give you an aspirin when you ask for it...she must call the doctor first. The doctor must give his expert opinion and make an order for said aspirine and convey that to the nurse. The nurse must put an order into the pharmacy. The pharmacist must add appropriate charges and feed the information into a computer that will tell him/her whether or not there is a reaction between any other drug the patient is taking and the aspirin. The aspirin is then given to the patient. The nurse will now spend several minutes documenting the journey of the aspirin, documenting the outcome and any adverse reaction. Keep in mind that any mistake any of these people make will be up for enourmous legal scrutiny and these medical professionals probably have at least 20 years of advanced education between them. This is the plight of US medical. The problem is we have too much government involvement. Oganizations like JCAHO and Medicare/Medicaid that are run by the government are draining the healthcare system with their unrealistic demands.
There are government agencies regulating every activity in a hospital from nursing documentation to medical procedure. Hospitals are legally obligated to care for VERY patient who comes thru the door (See EMTALA Act), whether they can pay or not....whether they are a citizen or not. Here in Texas, 35% of all labor and deliveries are done for non-citizens and illegal immigrants who will never pay.
Healthcare is a mess because the government needs to get out of it!
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