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70.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Jan 2008 Tue 10:08 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Catwoman, I think all Americans can agree on one thing...I wish the elections where not about voting for the lesser of 2 evils!!


Than I'd vote for Ron Paul, but good politicians don't win!

71.       teaschip
3870 posts
 23 Jan 2008 Wed 04:14 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Elisabeth:

Catwoman, I think all Americans can agree on one thing...I wish the elections where not about voting for the lesser of 2 evils!!


Than I'd vote for Ron Paul, but good politicians don't win!



I would too catwoman, however the American people just isn't ready for Ron Paul yet. They have the nanny syndrome, I'm afraid.

72.       alameda
3499 posts
 23 Jan 2008 Wed 07:09 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Elisabeth:

The aspirin... A nurse can't just give you an aspirin when you ask for it...she must call the doctor first. The doctor must give his expert opinion and make an order for said aspirine and convey that to the nurse. The nurse must put an order into the pharmacy. The pharmacist must add appropriate charges and feed the information into a computer that will tell him/her whether or not there is a reaction between any other drug the patient is taking and the aspirin. The aspirin is then given to the patient. The nurse will now spend several minutes documenting the journey of the aspirin, documenting the outcome and any adverse reaction. Keep in mind that any mistake any of these people make will be up for enourmous legal scrutiny and these medical professionals probably have at least 20 years of advanced education between them. This is the plight of US medical. The problem is we have too much government involvement. Oganizations like JCAHO and Medicare/Medicaid that are run by the government are draining the healthcare system with their unrealistic demands.



It sounds like the US system has more of a problem with their "I will sue you" attitude, than it's medical care. This is, frankly, ridiculous.

In the UK, senior nurses have recently been given more responsibilities in this area - it has finally been respected that they are often as knowledgeable (if not more) in day to day care than the doctors.



The reality of the situation is most people do not sue, even though there are often times good cause for a lawsuite.

One case, a woman goes to her medical care provider, she is allergic to sulpha drugs, that fact is in her files, she also reminds them she is allergic, but still gets sulpha drugs. This woman did not sue, she sure did have a very legitimate case.

I personally know of many similar cases where no lawsuite was filed. The reality is a lawsuite is a long tedious process most do not want to get involved in. It is true, some people seem to make a profession out of it, but these people also have help from criminal entities who profit and assist in the process.

edited to add:

Add to all of this the fact that if you loose your job, you loose your insurance. If you have been treated for anything that condition is called a preexisting condition . This makes you almost a slave to your employment. Not a good system in MHO.

73.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 23 Jan 2008 Wed 07:49 pm


Alameda...After spending years in the clinical aspect of healthcare, I am now in an administrative position. Hospitals usually have at least 3-4 lawsuits going on at a time. Some of them (maybe 2 per year) are legitimate due to human error. Most of them are people looking for money.

74.       teaschip
3870 posts
 23 Jan 2008 Wed 08:12 pm

Quoting alameda:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Elisabeth:

The aspirin... A nurse can't just give you an aspirin when you ask for it...she must call the doctor first. The doctor must give his expert opinion and make an order for said aspirine and convey that to the nurse. The nurse must put an order into the pharmacy. The pharmacist must add appropriate charges and feed the information into a computer that will tell him/her whether or not there is a reaction between any other drug the patient is taking and the aspirin. The aspirin is then given to the patient. The nurse will now spend several minutes documenting the journey of the aspirin, documenting the outcome and any adverse reaction. Keep in mind that any mistake any of these people make will be up for enourmous legal scrutiny and these medical professionals probably have at least 20 years of advanced education between them. This is the plight of US medical. The problem is we have too much government involvement. Oganizations like JCAHO and Medicare/Medicaid that are run by the government are draining the healthcare system with their unrealistic demands.



It sounds like the US system has more of a problem with their "I will sue you" attitude, than it's medical care. This is, frankly, ridiculous.

In the UK, senior nurses have recently been given more responsibilities in this area - it has finally been respected that they are often as knowledgeable (if not more) in day to day care than the doctors.



The reality of the situation is most people do not sue, even though there are often times good cause for a lawsuite.

One case, a woman goes to her medical care provider, she is allergic to sulpha drugs, that fact is in her files, she also reminds them she is allergic, but still gets sulpha drugs. This woman did not sue, she sure did have a very legitimate case.

I personally know of many similar cases where no lawsuite was filed. The reality is a lawsuite is a long tedious process most do not want to get involved in. It is true, some people seem to make a profession out of it, but these people also have help from criminal entities who profit and assist in the process.

edited to add:

Add to all of this the fact that if you loose your job, you loose your insurance. If you have been treated for anything that condition is called a preexisting condition . This makes you almost a slave to your employment. Not a good system in MHO.



Alameda, have you ever heard Americans talk about not needing anymore lawyers. People find reasons for anything to sue someone. As I mentioned, I work for a company who handles medical malpractice claims. When you have a chance do some research in medical malpractice in the State of California for example and you will see the increase of claims against these hopitals and doctors. Years ago doctors could afford to have their own private practice..However, over the years they are forced now to work in groups..mostly because of the cost of their malpractice insurance.

Prexisting conditions only are considered if you have had a lapse of coverage for more than 90 days. This was put into law several years ago..

75.       alameda
3499 posts
 23 Jan 2008 Wed 08:24 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:


Alameda...After spending years in the clinical aspect of healthcare, I am now in an administrative position. Hospitals usually have at least 3-4 lawsuits going on at a time. Some of them (maybe 2 per year) are legitimate due to human error. Most of them are people looking for money.



I don't doubt that Elisabeth, but my point was most do not sue. I could list numerous cases of negligence that were not pursued, but that would be tedious.

As for those who involve themselves in frivolous lawsuits, I would punish them to the full extent legally allowed, maybe even seeking an increase in allowable penalties....

76.       alameda
3499 posts
 23 Jan 2008 Wed 08:51 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting alameda:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Elisabeth:

The aspirin... A nurse can't just give you an aspirin when you ask for it...she must call the doctor first. The doctor must give his expert opinion and make an order for said aspirine and convey that to the nurse. The nurse must put an order into the pharmacy. The pharmacist must add appropriate charges and feed the information into a computer that will tell him/her whether or not there is a reaction between any other drug the patient is taking and the aspirin. The aspirin is then given to the patient. The nurse will now spend several minutes documenting the journey of the aspirin, documenting the outcome and any adverse reaction. Keep in mind that any mistake any of these people make will be up for enourmous legal scrutiny and these medical professionals probably have at least 20 years of advanced education between them. This is the plight of US medical. The problem is we have too much government involvement. Oganizations like JCAHO and Medicare/Medicaid that are run by the government are draining the healthcare system with their unrealistic demands.



It sounds like the US system has more of a problem with their "I will sue you" attitude, than it's medical care. This is, frankly, ridiculous.

In the UK, senior nurses have recently been given more responsibilities in this area - it has finally been respected that they are often as knowledgeable (if not more) in day to day care than the doctors.



The reality of the situation is most people do not sue, even though there are often times good cause for a lawsuite.

One case, a woman goes to her medical care provider, she is allergic to sulpha drugs, that fact is in her files, she also reminds them she is allergic, but still gets sulpha drugs. This woman did not sue, she sure did have a very legitimate case.

I personally know of many similar cases where no lawsuite was filed. The reality is a lawsuite is a long tedious process most do not want to get involved in. It is true, some people seem to make a profession out of it, but these people also have help from criminal entities who profit and assist in the process.

edited to add:

Add to all of this the fact that if you loose your job, you loose your insurance. If you have been treated for anything that condition is called a preexisting condition . This makes you almost a slave to your employment. Not a good system in MHO.



Alameda, have you ever heard Americans talk about not needing anymore lawyers. People find reasons for anything to sue someone. As I mentioned, I work for a company who handles medical malpractice claims. When you have a chance do some research in medical malpractice in the State of California for example and you will see the increase of claims against these hopitals and doctors. Years ago doctors could afford to have their own private practice..However, over the years they are forced now to work in groups..mostly because of the cost of their malpractice insurance.

Prexisting conditions only are considered if you have had a lapse of coverage for more than 90 days. This was put into law several years ago..



Well teaschip1...working in a legal firm would, of course, skew one's view of the situation. Everyone does not seek to sue.

77.       catwoman
8933 posts
 23 Jan 2008 Wed 11:18 pm

Quoting alameda:

The reality of the situation is most people do not sue, even though there are often times good cause for a lawsuite.

One case, a woman goes to her medical care provider, she is allergic to sulpha drugs, that fact is in her files, she also reminds them she is allergic, but still gets sulpha drugs. This woman did not sue, she sure did have a very legitimate case.

I personally know of many similar cases where no lawsuite was filed. The reality is a lawsuite is a long tedious process most do not want to get involved in. It is true, some people seem to make a profession out of it, but these people also have help from criminal entities who profit and assist in the process.

edited to add:

Add to all of this the fact that if you loose your job, you loose your insurance. If you have been treated for anything that condition is called a preexisting condition . This makes you almost a slave to your employment. Not a good system in MHO.


This is definitely true...

78.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 14 Sep 2008 Sun 03:26 pm

Many have discoursed on what an Obama victory could mean for America. We would finally be able to see our legacy of slavery, segregation and racism in the rearview mirror. Our kids would grow up thinking of prejudice as a nonfactor in their lives. The rest of the world would embrace a less fearful and more open post-post-9/11 America. But does it not follow that an Obama defeat would signify the opposite? If Obama loses, our children will grow up thinking of equal opportunity as a myth. His defeat would say that when handed a perfect opportunity to put the worst part of our history behind us, we chose not to. In this event, the world´s judgment will be severe and inescapable: the United States had its day, but in the end couldn´t put its own self-interest ahead of its crazy irrationality over race.

 

 

http://www.newsweek.com/id/155117

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