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Divine Plan
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10.       portokal
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 01 Feb 2008 Fri 01:10 pm

Quoting portokal:

Aenigma, chinese do believe that negative feelings have their reflection in calamities...
Unfortunately i do not remember now the feelings asociated with calamities, but the general idea was that everything is interconnected, negative thoughts will have their impact on nature. For eg. feeling of envy causes floods.


PS i love that sweet little guy with the joint lol



and i remeber that as the teacher of tai chi said it while there were inundations in the nearby the village camp we were to practice.

11.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 01 Feb 2008 Fri 01:10 pm

It is sometimes hard to understand all divine laws...But there is no harm in trying to understand them...

12.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 01 Feb 2008 Fri 01:12 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

I think that people who believe that everything is a "divine plan" are prone to resignation when things go wrong and accepting defeat as "fate" instead of being strong and fighting to change things.

If they are especially religious, they are also in danger of believing that ill things that happen to them are punishment...



"Divine plan" and "fate" are two different concepts partner...I can not understand either...

13.       AEnigma III
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 01 Feb 2008 Fri 01:13 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

"Divine plan" and "fate" are two different concepts partner...



There are really not different at all
One involves religion, the other does not necessarily

14.       portokal
2516 posts
 01 Feb 2008 Fri 01:14 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

I think that people who believe that everything is a "divine plan" are prone to resignation when things go wrong and accepting defeat as "fate" instead of being strong and fighting to change things.

If they are especially religious, they are also in danger of believing that ill things that happen to them are punishment...



punishment is the unsificiency of a religion.
a big trap of torture.
it might be punishment because of duality.
but what is happening to us is a lesson. to learn, to remember and ... desirably not to forget.
strenght is basic.
what gives you strenght?
tricky question.

15.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 01 Feb 2008 Fri 01:17 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting AlphaF:

"Divine plan" and "fate" are two different concepts partner...



There are really not different at all
One involves religion, the other does not necessarily



"Divine plan"is more like macroeconomics, while the latter is at relatively micro level.

There are further finer points associated with "fate", ie., "free will", which makes the whole thing even more confusing...

16.       AEnigma III
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 01 Feb 2008 Fri 01:21 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

"Divine plan"is more like macroeconomics, while the latter is at relatively micro level.

There are further finer points associated with "fate", ie., "free will", which makes the whole thing even more confusing...



I agree, but they are similar concepts no? Anyway, this is more of a "dinner party" discussion! You pay, and I will order the lobster

17.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 01 Feb 2008 Fri 01:27 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

I think that people who believe that everything is a "divine plan" are prone to resignation when things go wrong and accepting defeat as "fate" instead of being strong and fighting to change things.

If they are especially religious, they are also in danger of believing that ill things that happen to them are punishment...



And there are those who believe in the power of prayer, often to give them the strength to fight.

18.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 01 Feb 2008 Fri 01:27 pm

Goes fantastic, with a bottle of Raki...!

19.       AEnigma III
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 01 Feb 2008 Fri 01:28 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Goes fantastic, with a bottle of Raki...!



Yuck - you Turks are heathens!!! It does NOT go with raki - it goes well with a dry white wine or champagne. Please feel free to pass the raki bottle around after the meal though

(I hope your "friend" is coming too? )

20.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 01 Feb 2008 Fri 01:31 pm

What I think is that all living species, including humans, are not important at all...The whole thing is a cover up for something fishy..that is going on behind the scenes, us totally unaware...Religions may well be screens designed to limit our awareness.

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