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14 Mar 2008 Fri 05:04 pm |
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I will repeat again:
There SHOULD be no restriction regarding the subjects users want to post. (if course I dont mean pornography or that type of subjects)
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14 Mar 2008 Fri 05:05 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: This is not about fairness or equality. It is not about rudeness either.
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Ok alpha....for you it is about being able to post things about America and Israel...or whatever...and I actually agree with what has been said on this topic. I don't see harm in open discussions about them in off-topic areas.
But others ARE suggesting it is about fairness and equality. I would like to hear from them.
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14 Mar 2008 Fri 05:05 pm |
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Quoting Roswitha: I will always post issues on Zionism and America. why not. These are topics of daily interest. |
And you should be allowed to do it, why not?
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14 Mar 2008 Fri 05:07 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom: I will repeat again:
There SHOULD be no restriction regarding the subjects users want to post. (if course I dont mean pornography or that type of subjects) |
+1
I believe the only restriction should be not using vulgar language and not showing hostility to other members on personal grounds.
Oh, and sticking to forums - I hate seeing posts about home-made poetry in TURKISH poetry forum. Off-topic forum should serve for it!
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14 Mar 2008 Fri 05:19 pm |
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10. Any discussion on politics or religion and religious matters is strictly prohibited.
The rules to clearly state this... such drama is uneeded i feel.
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14 Mar 2008 Fri 05:26 pm |
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Quoting turkish learner: 10. Any discussion on politics or religion and religious matters is strictly prohibited.
The rules to clearly state this... such drama is uneeded i feel. |
I think religion and politics as subjects should be free. Then, if someone doesn't want to discuss these issue, they can stay away from the debate. To prohibit them only makes then more controversial. I think anything can be discussed with politeness, constructive criticism, enquiry and debate. After all religion and politics are both an active issue for Turkey and the rest of the world, half the papers here and the evening news are centred around these issues - they need to be discussed sometimes - they affect our lives everyday. But the way we do it is more important.
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14 Mar 2008 Fri 05:38 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: This is not about fairness or equality. It is not about rudeness either.
This is called hidden Sionism. I suggest Admin includes this new rule that "threads about America and Israel can not be started" - among the general TC rules, so all can see. |
If you/me/anyone started a Zionistic thread here, I'd call it a provocation.
If you/me/anyone posted an anti-Semitic thread before we had a single Zionistic thread here, I'd call it hatred.
Replace word "Zionistic" with any other similar word, and put name of any nation after anti-. For example:
If you/me/anyone started a fundamentalistic Islamic thread here, I'd call it a provocation.
If you/me/anyone posted an anti-Turkish/anti-Islamic thread before we had a single fundamentalistic Islamic thread here, I'd call it hatred.
"Sei ein Mann, Kamerad,
bleib ein Mensch, Kamerad!"
"Be a man, comrade,
stay a human being, comrade!"
(Jura Soyfer and Herbert Zipper: Dachaulied)
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14 Mar 2008 Fri 05:47 pm |
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Quoting Deli_kizin:
Keith, can you send me a list of complaints or things you'd like to see changed. If you wish, send me examples of things you find unacceptable. Actually Id like everyone to do so.
Thank you.
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I will have that for you Deli...
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14 Mar 2008 Fri 06:04 pm |
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Quoting duda: ....If you/me/anyone started a Zionistic thread here, I'd call it a provocation.
If you/me/anyone posted an anti-Semitic thread before we had a single Zionistic thread here, I'd call it hatred.
Replace word "Zionistic" with any other similar word, and put name of any nation after anti-. For example:
If you/me/anyone started a fundamentalistic Islamic thread here, I'd call it a provocation.
If you/me/anyone posted an anti-Turkish/anti-Islamic thread before we had a single fundamentalistic Islamic thread here, I'd call it hatred.
"Sei ein Mann, Kamerad,
bleib ein Mensch, Kamerad!"
"Be a man, comrade,
stay a human being, comrade!"
(Jura Soyfer and Herbert Zipper: Dachaulied)
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Duda, perhaps I'm misunderstanding you here, but may I point out the fact that the word Zionist is not considered a curse word to those who proudly profess it.
"Zionism"
I do not see any problem with discussing the merits or demerits of Zionisim, as long as such discussion is civil and respectful.
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14 Mar 2008 Fri 06:09 pm |
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Quoting duda: Very CLEAR Turkish Class Rules that have been UTTERLY NEGLECTED or BROKEN not only by members but by ADMINISTRATORS also:
5. Forum messages should have a meaningful content. Please refrain from posting meaningless threads, one word (or short) nonsense posts, or such like
8. Do not post vulgar, hateful, threatening, derogatory, racist or obscene comments on this site. Any such content will be deleted. The user account of the author of such messages may also be deleted if it repeats.
9. Avoid personal disputes and arguments. Personal correspondence postings should be kept at a minimum. Personal attacks or insults directed towards other users will not be tolerated. Basically if you don't have anything nice to say then just don't say it all. If somebody posts an insulting comment do not reply to it. It will only result in starting a flame-war. Instead, send a Private Message to one of the forum moderators and they will take care of it.
10. Any discussion on politics or religion and religious matters is strictly prohibited.
11. Postings about your religious beliefs; explaining any subject from a religious perspective; trying to influence others with your religious beliefs; getting religion involved in any subject and/or any subjects with religion as the main theme is prohibited. This is a religion - free website where all members should feel comfortable whether they are religious, atheist, agnostic or whatever.
The only exception to this is where someone has raised a question about Turkish culture which cannot be answered without making a reference to religion, for example an explanation about a turkish religious holiday. Anyone answering a question of this nature, must be careful to keep their answer impartial, impersonal and non controversial. Any such responses will be deleted.
12. If you don’t agree with the moderators send a Private Message instead of posting in the forum. Any such posts will be deleted.
As I hope to have my account deleted very soon, instead of a heart-breaking goodbye I can say only:
THANK YOU VINEYARDS FOR YOUR TRUTHFUL AND BRAVE WORDS. HOPE TO SEE YOU AT A BETTER PLACE THAN THIS. |
Well Duda, I really hope we don't loose you. Please reconsider and stay. It looks like there is a real effort to work things out here.
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14 Mar 2008 Fri 06:24 pm |
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I think it's a good idea to remember this is a FREE site, now that we have been given a this "gift horse", we are checking it's teeth.
The "Forum Rules" are well thought out and seem to cover just about everything. It would be nice if they were actually enforced. The enforcement of the rules is a problem in as much as it requires administering and moderating, which takes a lot of time and work. Moderators and administrators are not paid (at least I don't think they are)
As members need to remember and consider is the fact that this site, as it is privatly owned, is not a democracy. We aren't shareholders with votes. We are allowed to join in and partake of it's benefits if we like. We are consumers who consume as we like or do not like.
If the owner of TLC wants to keep our membership, which it appears is the case, we are asked what we want, but please let's remember, this is a free site.
There are many wonderful aspects to this site. I love looking at the photos, the dictionary is fabulous, tips on travel, tools for learning Turkish, Turkish music and so on are wonderful. I'd hate to see this site go away.
I think we need to moderate ourselves more, and help the moderators run the site more efficiently.
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