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09 Jun 2008 Mon 04:09 am |
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The problem is not the azan, the problem is abuse of sound amplification equipment.
Quoting thehandsom: Of course it is noise pollution Canli.
Sometimes they are putting 4 nos 100/200W speakers on to each minaret. Sometimes they are adding them on to other parts as well. A mosque with 2 minarets may create more than 2000W sound.
They have checked some of these mosques and the sound was measured between 110-150 decibel units!!
For human ears normal sounds are between 35 and 65 dB .
When you exceed this level continuously it effects the quailty of life and causes psychological problems!!
Some examples for noise levels:
* normal conversation 50 - 60 dB(A)
* a loud radio 65 - 75 dB(A)
* a busy street 78 - 85 dB(A)
* a heavy lorry about 7 metres away 95 - 100 dB(A)
* a pighouse at feeding time 110 dB(A)
* a chain saw 115 - 120 dB(A)
* a jet aircraft taking off 25 metres away 140 dB(A). (HSE, 2000 ) |
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09 Jun 2008 Mon 01:43 pm |
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At the apartment of a friend of mine they had a speaker attached from the mosque that was just several blocks away. It was REALLY annoying because it was next to her bedroom and everytime I slept there, I woke up in a shock since its a rather penetrating sound. Also, because you hear the mosque as well, and becuase there were other speakers close to the apartment from other mosques in the neighbourhood as well, you would hear around 5 voices, from loud to far away, sing the same thing but all mixed up.
I would have no problem with the regular mosque calling for prayer at a normal sound, becuase it is a nice sound. But so many loud speakers is too much of a good thing. Hatta if you ask me, during the night they can just stop it. Maybe you cant put your alarm at work 4 times a day, but I suggest that at night people just put their alarm (the ones who do their namaz at 5 in the morning probably do so anyway, at least they do in the Netherlands because there is no nightly ezan to wake you up) so that the infidels, the Christians and all the Muslims who think sleep is sweeter than prayer, dont have to wake up 
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09 Jun 2008 Mon 03:11 pm |
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All of the suggestions must be evaluated. Because Islams one of main principle is "Kolaylaştırınız güçleştirmeyiniz, müjdeleyiniz nefret ettirmeyiniz" (I couldnt translate it but something that; let it be easy not hard, give them a piece of good news dont let them hate)
But there is something that called "sine qua non". One of them is "in a muslim country people must be called to NAMAZ publicly" as in a christian country toll for sunday ceremony.
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09 Jun 2008 Mon 03:16 pm |
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Quoting caliptrix: Quoting libralady: When I was in Istanbul I saw taxi's pull up on the side of the road, drivers get out and go into the mosque and I saw shops shut for a few minutes while they went to the mosque and I literally saw 20 or so men troup into the mosque near Galata bridge. |
It may be only for the friday prayer which is had to be read in that time, noon of friday only. For the other times, people don't stop working or doing something. Indeed, there are many people who don't care friday prayer too. So it sounds weird for me, stopping his work and go to the mosque? hmmmmm |
It was a Friday, but honestly it happened!
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09 Jun 2008 Mon 03:47 pm |
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Quoting alameda: The problem is not the azan, the problem is abuse of sound amplification equipment.
Quoting thehandsom: Of course it is noise pollution Canli.
Sometimes they are putting 4 nos 100/200W speakers on to each minaret. Sometimes they are adding them on to other parts as well. A mosque with 2 minarets may create more than 2000W sound.
They have checked some of these mosques and the sound was measured between 110-150 decibel units!!
For human ears normal sounds are between 35 and 65 dB .
When you exceed this level continuously it effects the quailty of life and causes psychological problems!!
Some examples for noise levels:
* normal conversation 50 - 60 dB(A)
* a loud radio 65 - 75 dB(A)
* a busy street 78 - 85 dB(A)
* a heavy lorry about 7 metres away 95 - 100 dB(A)
* a pighouse at feeding time 110 dB(A)
* a chain saw 115 - 120 dB(A)
* a jet aircraft taking off 25 metres away 140 dB(A). (HSE, 2000 ) |
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alameda canim,the problem in the mind of the person who think that azan is noise pollution
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09 Jun 2008 Mon 04:56 pm |
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I guess if you lived close to a mosque and it was extremely loud, yes 5x day could be bothersom. But then again I imagine some people get use to it.
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09 Jun 2008 Mon 05:00 pm |
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Quoting serhattugral: One of them is "in a muslim country people must be called to NAMAZ publicly" as in a christian country toll for sunday ceremony.
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Yes you are right, but though the overwhelming majority of Turkey is Muslim, it is not an official muslim country.
I'm not saying it should not be tollerated at all, ofcourse, it is part of it, but they dfinitely should do something about the noise at places where it is too loud.
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09 Jun 2008 Mon 05:03 pm |
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Quoting elham: alameda canim,the problem in the mind of the person who think that azan is noise pollution |
That is definitely way too simplistic to say! You may say that it is acceptable because it is a country inhabited by muslims, but it is not the state religion and if you were to check statistics of how many people call themselves muslims (let's say 99%, including Alevis who adhere to religious laws less than Sunni), and how many people actually kıl their namaz at all, or some just on friday, you might wonder why it is so loud.
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09 Jun 2008 Mon 05:32 pm |
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Quoting libralady:
It was a Friday, but honestly it happened! |
Happy to know it actually
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09 Jun 2008 Mon 06:02 pm |
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Quoting teaschip: I guess if you lived close to a mosque and it was extremely loud, yes 5x day could be bothersom. But then again I imagine some people get use to it. |
To Muslims its same like bells to Christians,a reminder of the time of prayers
İt shouldnt be a problem specially if it is organized
Means for each ...m2 there would be mosque who allowed to use a speaker at the degree of ..
İf locals want to build new one within same area,speakers are not allowed as i presume,İmam use his own voice without speakers to call for Sala 'prayers'
We did this here...and we dont EVEN hear it at nights 
Government ordered İmamlar to reduce voices so they dont wake people up !
Azan is a call of prayer to remind people of the time of prayers,and to gather people 'who wants' to pray together at mosques.
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09 Jun 2008 Mon 07:01 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: To Muslims its same like bells to Christians,a reminder of the time of prayers |
Ive lived in Netherlands for 19 years and never heard the bells of church frequently. I lived in Turkey for 1 year and was woken up nearly every night by ezan 
I do prefer ezan sound over church bells though!
Quoting CANLI:
Azan is a call of prayer to remind people of the time of prayers,and to gather people 'who wants' to pray together at mosques.
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I think there are more people sleeping at 5 than waking up for ezan Isnt it a passage from Quran 'to you your religion, to me my religion' (something like this?). You can pray as long as you dont bother people who dont. But as you said, if they make rules according to sound and meters, it should not be a problem at all.
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