Living - working in Turkey |
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As a Jewish
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 02:14 pm |
If i ever want to live there... how would people treat me?
hows the relationship between the different religions?
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 02:44 pm |
There are many Jews that live and work in the şişli area of istanbul. As far as I see, they get along just fine.
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 03:04 pm |
As I think Turkey is good country for all people from any religion …
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 03:51 pm |
There're turkish jews that are native to Turkey, have been living for hundreds of years, but most of them migrated to İsrael later, but still there's a jewish community continuing living in Turkey particularly in İstanbul around a few ten thousands I think. They have their sinagogs, and practise their religion. And I've watched a documentary, most of them have no particular problems.
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 04:05 pm |
Also Turkey is amongst the first countries to recognize the state of Israel. (March 28, 1949)
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 08:10 pm |
Ohhh thats so nice to hear thanks everyone (:
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 05:45 pm |
I dont see any problem for the jews living in Turkey, I have many jewish friends here...
If you start a live in Turkey, the only problem you would deal is just getting used to the new life style and surrounding... Because there are lots of foreigners and people from other religions living in Turkey...
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 06:27 pm |
Hadar I would take these "official" comments very lightly. Ask yourself how good the relationship is between muslims and jews (please feel free to refer to the Quran and see what the prophet Mohammad says about jews) and then ask yourself how many Turks are muslims - then draw your own conclusions
If you are still in doubt, please let me know and I can provide you with links to threads on this website where Turkish members have given their very frank and candid opinions on Israel and Jews
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 06:55 pm |
umm i would like u to give me some links please(:
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 06:58 pm |
Quoting hadar: umm i would like u to give me some links please(: |
http://www.musevicemaati.com/
Turkish Jews newspaper(in Turkish)
http://www.salom.com.tr/
History of Turkish Jews
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Turkey
http://www.muze500.com/history.htm
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 07:13 pm |
Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Hadar I would take these "official" comments very lightly. Ask yourself how good the relationship is between muslims and jews (please feel free to refer to the Quran and see what the prophet Mohammad says about jews) and then ask yourself how many Turks are muslims - then draw your own conclusions
If you are still in doubt, please let me know and I can provide you with links to threads on this website where Turkish members have given their very frank and candid opinions on Israel and Jews |
We as a Turk can honestly say that, we have no problems with people and what they believe... If a couple of sick people say some nonsense... you cannot generalize..
This is was the first point... And secondly... i think i am the one who lives here and knows the reality better here...
the opinion about the Israel is consisting what governments do here...
its like greece and turkey... politics are bad... but society adore eachother...
And Hadar, dont hesitate about anything... just come and see by your own...
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 08:14 pm |
Im still planning my visit.
im working now and then i will fly there for a couple of weeks
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 08:52 pm |
Quoting hadar: Im still planning my visit.
im working now and then i will fly there for a couple of weeks |
If you will be the right persons and right friends in Turkey, there would be no problem...
just like in every country wish you a good luck from your work
and lots of fun on your trip to Turkey...
btw... if you like Rock music... dont go without visiting the bar Mojo-everynite live Rock bands
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 09:08 pm |
Yes, me too as a turk, I can assure you that Turkey is one of the best countries for jews. Even in europe there's much more hatred towards jews. That's why most muslim countries are angry about Turkey being so friendly with jews. The things some turks says consider rather some of the acts of the state of Israel, but let's look at the reality, Turkey and Israel get along really well, and they have very close relations. In Turkey and in Ottoman Empire there has never been an antisemitic movement.
As for the turkish jews, just ask them, how life is for them, and how they are accepted into the society. Me, too I know some jews in my university, or in my surrounding, I have never seen someone behave them differently.
If you know french, listen to this reportage with Ishak Alaton, a turkish jew, the owner of one of the biggest turkish companies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhzMeQMxpxY&feature=related
BTW I heard that Turkey is the number one holiday destination of Israel jews.
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 09:12 pm |
oh at least someone thinks like me!
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 09:15 pm |
Quoting SuiGeneris: oh at least someone thinks like me! |
I think it's not just an idea, it comes from our observations and experiences on which she can rely on
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 09:18 pm |
Quoting mltm: Quoting SuiGeneris: oh at least someone thinks like me! |
I think it's not just an idea, it comes from our observations and experiences on which she can rely on |
definetely, you said the key words...
observations and experiences
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 09:41 pm |
Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: how many Turks are muslims |
In combination with your post about Muslim-Turks & alcohol, this statement doesn't make sense It means you think the majority of Turkish muslims do not think and act accordign to the book, and now, suddenly, you tell her to look at what the book says because Turkish people are Muslim.
My personal opinion anyway is that in Turkey it really differs from region to region, but I don't think religious discrimination is any more dangerous than, for example, in the Netherlands.
And it's always better to be Jewish than to be an atheist
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 09:54 pm |
hadar,ask Ayla about it
She was a member here and she is both jewish and Israeli and she also been to Türkiye
İ guess that would be much better for you
İ will pm you how to contact her
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 10:15 pm |
mltm - u right, my father said he thinks that we r the only family who has never visited turkey ><
SuiGeneris - do they have age limit in this bar?
Thanks everyone for ur attention (:
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 10:19 pm |
And where is this bar??
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 10:23 pm |
Quoting hadar: mltm - u right, my father said he thinks that we r the only family who has never visited turkey ><
SuiGeneris - do they have age limit in this bar?
Thanks everyone for ur attention (: |
Hmm probably they have... but you can look like 18 right atleast?...
That bar is at the street of Hayal Kahvesi and the Pub Life
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 10:28 pm |
Quoting SuiGeneris: That bar is at the street of Hayal Kahvesi and the Pub Life |
Ok I'm off to İstanbul in about a week, and Kadir and I sure love some good rock music!
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 10:30 pm |
Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting SuiGeneris: That bar is at the street of Hayal Kahvesi and the Pub Life |
Ok I'm off to İstanbul in about a week, and Kadir and I sure love some good rock music! |
well go down to istiklal!!! go till you see Marmara or Marmaris Bufe street on the left there you will see the street of Mojo and Hayal Kahvesi.
But before that you can go to Baykus for warm up
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 10:32 pm |
Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Hadar I would take these "official" comments very lightly. Ask yourself how good the relationship is between muslims and jews (please feel free to refer to the Quran and see what the prophet Mohammad says about jews) and then ask yourself how many Turks are muslims - then draw your own conclusions
If you are still in doubt, please let me know and I can provide you with links to threads on this website where Turkish members have given their very frank and candid opinions on Israel and Jews |
lol and here is your source to the "frank and candid opinions" of the Christians of Europe and America about the Jews.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 10:38 pm |
actually i am.. 15
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 10:40 pm |
Quoting hadar: actually i am.. 15 |
Age is but a number dear I am 20 and still people sometimes think I am 17 or smt So maybe you are 15 but the barpeople will think you are 18
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 10:44 pm |
Hehehe yes age its just a number(:
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 11:26 pm |
Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting hadar: actually i am.. 15 |
Age is but a number dear I am 20 and still people sometimes think I am 17 or smt So maybe you are 15 but the barpeople will think you are 18 |
Oh!!! I have to disagree here with you. In my opinion a girl of 15 should not be in such places. I may sound like a mother, but no I say it very sincerely
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 11:36 pm |
Quoting Deli_kizin: I am 20 and still people sometimes think I am 17 or smt So maybe you are 15 but the barpeople will think you are 18 |
It's most of the time good to look much younger after an age! In every way! It was funny once here in Lyon, they were stopping people on the street to ask for money for a kind of organisation, and one stopped me even if I tried to avoid him and asked me if I was a major, I said "no" not expecting him to believe but indeed he believed! he said "then we cannot accept money from you."!
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07 Jul 2008 Mon 12:02 am |
Quoting mltm: It's most of the time good to look much younger after an age! In every way! It was funny once here in Lyon, they were stopping people on the street to ask for money for a kind of organisation, and one stopped me even if I tried to avoid him and asked me if I was a major, I said "no" not expecting him to believe but indeed he believed! he said "then we cannot accept money from you."! |
Yes I know!!! I'm not complaining about it anyway
And about clubbing at 15.. I actually agree too If Hadar had been my sister ı wouldn't have said that My sister is 14 and already trying to go out, something I didn't do until I was 16.
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07 Jul 2008 Mon 09:10 am |
hahah i go out a lot here!
not clubbing, cuz i hate the atmosphere in clubs here...
but i have other things to do(:
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10 Sep 2008 Wed 01:12 pm |
I should say they get on very well in Istanbul. There is the big Jewish school there, for one thing--Jews there take turkish names--so no Sam goldbergs or Joshua Finlesteins. Jews blend in.
Also, when I worked there, we took our school to a class blowing factory just outside Istanbul. They had a special program for students to make glass plates.
In the workshop, learning glass blowing, were a number of israeli soldiers. Outside in the cafe there was an Israeli General sitting having a cup of coffee, chatting to some Turkish women.
Quite what was going on there was something of a mystery.
But it at least shows they are on good terms
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