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Agnosticism: A Religion
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1.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 12:07 pm


Let's make a little bit of history folks.

I'll kick off.

The Denominations

Strong agnosticism (also called hard agnosticism, closed agnosticism, strict agnosticism, absolute agnosticism)—the view that the question of the existence or nonexistence of an omnipotent God and the nature of ultimate reality is unknowable by reason of our natural inability to verify any experience with anything but another subjective experience.

Mild agnosticism (also called weak agnosticism, soft agnosticism, open agnosticism, empirical agnosticism, temporal agnosticism)—the view that the existence or nonexistence of God or gods is currently unknown but is not necessarily unknowable, therefore one will withhold judgment until/if more evidence is available.

Apathetic agnosticism (also called Pragmatic agnosticism)—the view that there is no proof of either the existence or nonexistence of God or gods, but since any God or gods that may exist appear unconcerned for the universe or the welfare of its inhabitants, the question is largely academic anyway.

Agnostic theism (also called religious agnosticism)—the view of those who do not claim to know existence of God or gods, but still believe in such an existence. (See Knowledge vs. Beliefs)

Agnostic atheism—the view of those who do not know of the existence or nonexistence of God or gods, and do not believe in them.[7]

Ignosticism—the view that a coherent definition of God must be put forward before the question of the existence of God can be meaningfully discussed. If the chosen definition isn't coherent, the ignostic holds the noncognitivist view that the existence of God is meaningless or empirically untestable. A.J. Ayer, Theodore Drange, and other philosophers see both atheism and agnosticism as incompatible with ignosticism on the grounds that atheism and agnosticism accept 'God exists' as a meaningful proposition which can be argued for or against.

Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism

Now, all you Agnostics out there, come on out of the closet! Be brave, have FAITH in your own religion and share:

a) traditions
b) rituals
c) scriptures (I heard a rumour these may vary from day to day)
d) place of 'worship'
e) symbols
f) commandments
g) Anything else I can't think of

And all you non-Agnostics (henceforth known as Agnons), what interesting or controversial facets of Agnosticism have you heard about.

All you Atheists, please don't be angry . . . your own thread is on it's way (well I mean your own special thread)










2.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 12:24 pm

I'm not 100% sure PT but to my knowledge agnosticism is a philosophical concept rather than religion.

3.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 12:34 pm

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4.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 01:33 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

I'm not 100% sure PT but to my knowledge agnosticism is a philosophical concept rather than religion.



You haven't got my point, or possibly my sense of humour. I know it's an acquired taste

Actually on my www travels I'm sure I saw a link to Christian Agnostics . . . honestly!

5.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 01:49 pm

"... agnostic theists, who identify themselves as both agnostics in the original sense and followers of a particular religion."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism

6.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 01:58 pm

Exactly, thus it is not agnosticism that constitutes a religion but it may take the form of a philosophical concept within a religion.

7.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 02:02 pm

A very interesting article on religions in the world, also from Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion

8.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 02:12 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Exactly, thus it is not agnosticism that constitutes a religion but it may take the form of a philosophical concept within a religion.



Does this preclude your responding to some of the questions?

9.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 02:32 pm

Quoting peacetrain:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Exactly, thus it is not agnosticism that constitutes a religion but it may take the form of a philosophical concept within a religion.



Does this preclude your responding to some of the questions?



Nope, the fact that I am not an agnostic does, though lol

10.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 02:51 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting peacetrain:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Exactly, thus it is not agnosticism that constitutes a religion but it may take the form of a philosophical concept within a religion.



Does this preclude your responding to some of the questions?



Nope, the fact that I am not an agnostic does, though lol



Actually I meant to say 'Does it preclude your participation?'

I covered your stance here:

Quoting Peacetrain:

And all you non-Agnostics (henceforth known as Agnons), what interesting or controversial facets of Agnosticism have you heard about?



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