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A covered woman in Islam
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 02:39 am |
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Islam teaches Inner Beauty….
A covered woman in Islam is a sign of purity and dignity. It highlights the Muslim woman as a pure, chaste woman and sets her apart from the immoral behavior associated with women who dress immodestly.
It is a sort of screen between the chaste Muslim woman and the evil that exists in this world. When a woman covers herself, she is less likely to be exploited for her beauty and femininity.
The cover cuts down on competition among women. How many people in the West sacrifice financial savings and health in order to have plastic surgery - in a desperate attempt to meet up to an unrealistic standard of beauty?
IN ISLAM, WOMEN ARE APPRECIATED FOR THEIR KNOWLEDGE, FAITHFULLNESS AND CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY
Islam teaches us that the most beautiful women are not necessarily the most popular. Rather, she is assessed for her mind, and not just her outer beauty…
http://flickr.com/photos/75363442@N00/4055615
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/4/4055615_26338df826.jpg?v=1147772880
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 02:53 am |
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Quoting Roswitha: Islam teaches Inner Beauty….
A covered woman in Islam is a sign of purity and dignity. It highlights the Muslim woman as a pure, chaste woman and sets her apart from the immoral behavior associated with women who dress immodestly.
It is a sort of screen between the chaste Muslim woman and the evil that exists in this world. When a woman covers herself, she is less likely to be exploited for her beauty and femininity.
The cover cuts down on competition among women. How many people in the West sacrifice financial savings and health in order to have plastic surgery - in a desperate attempt to meet up to an unrealistic standard of beauty?
IN ISLAM, WOMEN ARE APPRECIATED FOR THEIR KNOWLEDGE, FAITHFULLNESS AND CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY
Islam teaches us that the most beautiful women are not necessarily the most popular. Rather, she is assessed for her mind, and not just her outer beauty…
http://flickr.com/photos/75363442@N00/4055615
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well.
That is what I am against 100% about Islam.
My sister wears skirts for example.
According to what it is saying that she is immoral and not modest.
And I know, most of these strict muslims think the same way.
Then how can Islamic women and men can cry for sympathy when they are treating all other women, who are not like them, like prostitutes?
Annoying, primitive and intolerant!!
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 03:05 am |
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Quoting thehandsom:
Then how can Islamic women and men can cry for sympathy when they are treating all other women, who are not like them, like prostitutes?
Annoying, primitive and intolerant!!
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Why should we cry for sympathy ?
Do you cry for sympathy ?!
İ dont agree with the above one and i dont understand your post either !
Quoting thehandsom:
Annoying, primitive and intolerant!!
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Well,i dont agree with those descriptions either,i have one word in mind for that article
Stupidity
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 03:18 am |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting thehandsom:
Then how can Islamic women and men can cry for sympathy when they are treating all other women, who are not like them, like prostitutes?
Annoying, primitive and intolerant!!
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Why should we cry for sympathy ?
Do you cry for sympathy ?!
İ dont agree with the above one and i dont understand your post either !
Quoting thehandsom:
Annoying, primitive and intolerant!!
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Well,i dont agree with those descriptions either,i have one word in mind for that article
Stupidity
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well..
Canli, I was thinking of Turkey and Turban struggle in Universities.
They are always trying to show that they are fighting for their basic rights of freedom and they were trying to cry for sympathy.
But, when you see that all these women and girls who are wearing Turban THINK and TREAT all other girls and women who dont dress like them, like prostitutes and then talk about freedom..
It is making me so cross and reminding me once more how intolerant they get.
and look at the wording up there:
immoral behavior associated with women who dress immodestly
That is what I am talking about..
The person who wrote that original post is a muslim and she/he thinks that women who are not dressed 'modestly' are immoral..
How dare anybody can say 'women who are not covered' are immoral?
But most of muslims think that way..dont you agree?
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 03:49 am |
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Quoting Roswitha:
http://flickr.com/photos/75363442@N00/4055615
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A covered Muslim in İslam is a sign for a woman who follow an order from ALLAH
A scarf,hijab,or even niqap,wont hide the woman from the world,so it would keep the evil world away from her
The woman who think that way,would be far naive than she may think
As much as i would like to think that covered woman is all that,an Angel maybe
But hello,we are on earth and women are human covered or not!
So covered or not,in the end its all about morals
And what is that crap about ?
'The cover cuts down on competition among women. How many people in the West sacrifice financial savings and health in order to have plastic surgery - in a desperate attempt to meet up to an unrealistic standard of beauty?'
So covered woman should look like S**t under her hijab...niqap or what ever ?!
Covered woman would sacrifice same too,in order to look beauty for her own eyes
the only thing i would agree on
'Islam teaches us that the most beautiful women are not necessarily the most popular. Rather, she is assessed for her mind, and not just her outer beauty…'
Just piece of advice for who think that way
Dont be very lazy and try to use the comb more often !
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 03:55 am |
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Quoting thehandsom:
well..
Canli, I was thinking of Turkey and Turban struggle in Universities.
They are always trying to show that they are fighting for their basic rights of freedom and they were trying to cry for sympathy.
But, when you see that all these women and girls who are wearing Turban THINK and TREAT all other girls and women who dont dress like them, like prostitutes and then talk about freedom..
It is making me so cross and reminding me once more how intolerant they get. |
Well,they do have my sympathy handsom
They are not free to make a decision about even what to wear
Maybe if they have that freedom,they wont be thinking that way. 'if they do i mean '
Quoting thehandsom:
and look at the wording up there:
immoral behavior associated with women who dress immodestly
That is what I am talking about..
The person who wrote that original post is a muslim and she/he thinks that women who are not dressed 'modestly' are immoral..
How dare anybody can say 'women who are not covered' are immoral?
But most of muslims think that way..dont you agree? |
An ignorant one dare.
mmm,of course we are talking about normal not covered women,those who are not wearing hijab or Turban.
So nope,i dont agree
Not most Muslims think that way,not from what i come from.
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 04:01 am |
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Quoting thehandsom:
well.
That is what I am against 100% about Islam.
My sister wears skirts for example.
According to what it is saying that she is immoral and not modest.
And I know, most of these strict muslims think the same way.
Then how can Islamic women and men can cry for sympathy when they are treating all other women, who are not like them, like prostitutes?
Annoying, primitive and intolerant!!
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Gee handsome, is that what you think Islam is about? From my experience the wearing of covering does not equate to an automatic "good woman". There are also actions. I was amazed to see many prostitutes in Morocco who were totally veiled. They were quite able to get their message over even with nothing but eyes showing.
Actually, I have met many Muslims who were quite tolerant to uncovered women. As I said, it's not the cloth as much as the attitude.
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 04:14 am |
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Quoting Roswitha:
A covered woman in Islam is a sign of purity and dignity. It highlights the Muslim woman as a pure, chaste woman and sets her apart from the immoral behavior associated with women who dress immodestly.
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can you define what "dressing immodestly" is. You`re talking about respecting what people choose to wear and then you call those who don`t wear like you do immodest. Sorry but we are not so naive to believe in these lies.
Quoting Roswitha:
IN ISLAM, WOMEN ARE APPRECIATED FOR THEIR KNOWLEDGE, FAITHFULLNESS AND CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY
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In which Islamic/theocratic country are women appreciated for their contribution to society? Sounds like a joke.
Go on living in the medieval times. The people like you makes me praise Ataturk even more.
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 04:17 am |
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tamikidakika,Ros is just copying the article its not her wordings.
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 04:18 am |
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Quoting alameda: Quoting thehandsom:
well.
That is what I am against 100% about Islam.
My sister wears skirts for example.
According to what it is saying that she is immoral and not modest.
And I know, most of these strict muslims think the same way.
Then how can Islamic women and men can cry for sympathy when they are treating all other women, who are not like them, like prostitutes?
Annoying, primitive and intolerant!!
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Gee handsome, is that what you think Islam is about? From my experience the wearing of covering does not equate to an automatic "good woman". There are also actions. I was amazed to see many prostitutes in Morocco who were totally veiled. They were quite able to get their message over even with nothing but eyes showing.
Actually, I have met many Muslims who were quite tolerant to uncovered women. As I said, it's not the cloth as much as the attitude. |
Alameda, why don`t you go to Fatih or Sultanbeyli wearing a skirt (let alone miniskirt, that would be an invitation to lynch) and without headscarf. I`m wondering how long will you be able to survive. Have you ever heard of these places? They are in Istanbul, not somewhere close to the Iraq border.
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 04:20 am |
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Quoting CANLI: tamikidakika,Ros is just copying the article its not her wordings. |
Sorry, I thought it was your post.
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 04:31 am |
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Quoting tamikidakika: Quoting CANLI: tamikidakika,Ros is just copying the article its not her wordings. |
Sorry, I thought it was your post. |
Ohhh so all that were meant for me ?! lol 
Ok,i can survive that 
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 04:31 am |
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Quoting Roswitha: Islam teaches Inner Beauty….
A covered woman in Islam is a sign of purity and dignity. It highlights the Muslim woman as a pure, chaste woman and sets her apart from the immoral behavior associated with women who dress immodestly.
It is a sort of screen between the chaste Muslim woman and the evil that exists in this world. When a woman covers herself, she is less likely to be exploited for her beauty and femininity.
The cover cuts down on competition among women. How many people in the West sacrifice financial savings and health in order to have plastic surgery - in a desperate attempt to meet up to an unrealistic standard of beauty?
IN ISLAM, WOMEN ARE APPRECIATED FOR THEIR KNOWLEDGE, FAITHFULLNESS AND CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY
Islam teaches us that the most beautiful women are not necessarily the most popular. Rather, she is assessed for her mind, and not just her outer beauty…
http://flickr.com/photos/75363442@N00/4055615
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/4/4055615_26338df826.jpg?v=1147772880
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 04:35 am |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting tamikidakika: Quoting CANLI: tamikidakika,Ros is just copying the article its not her wordings. |
Sorry, I thought it was your post. |
Ohhh so all that were meant for me ?! lol
Ok,i can survive that
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but you don`t think very differently from what that post said, do you?
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 04:37 am |
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Quoting tamikidakika: Quoting CANLI: Quoting tamikidakika: Quoting CANLI: tamikidakika,Ros is just copying the article its not her wordings. |
Sorry, I thought it was your post. |
Ohhh so all that were meant for me ?! lol
Ok,i can survive that
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but you don`t think very differently from what that post said, do you? |
Ehhhmmmmmm you didnt even read the thread,did you ?
I already posted what i think and went on discussion with handsom too about it
As much as i hate to disappoint you, but nope,i dont think that way
I think its crap.
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 04:40 am |
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Quoting tamikidakika:
Alameda, why don`t you go to Fatih or Sultanbeyli wearing a skirt (let alone miniskirt, that would be an invitation to lynch) and without headscarf. I`m wondering how long will you be able to survive. Have you ever heard of these places? They are in Istanbul, not somewhere close to the Iraq border. |
Really? It's like that there? If so, I'm really sad to hear it. Turkey has been famous for it's tolerance. Maybe I should check these places out in the future.
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 04:57 am |
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Quoting alameda: Quoting tamikidakika:
Alameda, why don`t you go to Fatih or Sultanbeyli wearing a skirt (let alone miniskirt, that would be an invitation to lynch) and without headscarf. I`m wondering how long will you be able to survive. Have you ever heard of these places? They are in Istanbul, not somewhere close to the Iraq border. |
Really? It's like that there? If so, I'm really sad to hear it. Turkey has been famous for it's tolerance. Maybe I should check these places out in the future. |
or maybe you shouldn`t check these places out. Belive me you won`t miss anything.
But Alameda let me tell you something; there is no tolerance or peace in religion no matter what religion it is. Sultanbeyli is not different from a Christian monastery in this respect.
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 05:07 am |
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Quoting tamikidakika: ...or maybe you shouldn`t check these places out. Belive me you won`t miss anything.
But Alameda let me tell you something; there is no tolerance or peace in religion no matter what religion it is. Sultanbeyli is not different from a Christian monastery in this respect. |
Well with the world getting smaller, we are going have to learn to get along. I do believe that t the root or heart of all the worlds great religions tolerance is taught. I think that when politicians get hold of it, things change.
Certainly there are many examples, like, Yunus Emre was very tolerant.
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 05:16 am |
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Quoting alameda: Quoting tamikidakika: ...or maybe you shouldn`t check these places out. Belive me you won`t miss anything.
But Alameda let me tell you something; there is no tolerance or peace in religion no matter what religion it is. Sultanbeyli is not different from a Christian monastery in this respect. |
Well with the world getting smaller, we are going have to learn to get along. I do believe that t the root or heart of all the worlds great religions tolerance is taught. I think that when politicians get hold of it, things change.
Certainly there are many examples, like, Yunus Emre was very tolerant. |
just to clear it up, Yunus Emre had nothing to do with religion but philosophy and poetry. He was a Bektasi, and Bektasizm is not a religion.
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 08:59 am |
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It shouldn't matter whether a woman is covered or not, but it won't be achieved until women have the right (not only legally but socially) to unveil. If you can be as safe wearing burka as not wearing it, it's a sign of tolerance. If taking it off makes you prone to being treated like immoral and results in hostility then it's not tolerance.
Many times people refer to burkas as personal choice or show photos of happy women swimming in a sack. I wonder if their husbands would be ok with them wearing bikini instead. It is not a free choice if you choose to wear a cover because it's socially advisable.
I loved the mixture of cultures in Turkey, covered women walking step by step with women in mini skirts. That is a sign of tolerance. Yet, Turks say that Turkish women are not so free to show too much body, so I guess there's still lots to change in people's mentality.
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 04:34 pm |
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The statement you made, Tamikidakika is utter nonsense, I had no problems when I explored the conservative Fatih neighborhood, I did not see any miniskirts there
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 04:53 pm |
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Quoting Roswitha: The statement you made, Tamikidakika is utter nonsense, I had no problems when I explored the conservative Fatih neighborhood, I did not see any miniskirts there |
Tamikidakika is trying to hijack the thread because he cannot take critcism 
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 05:29 pm |
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Quoting Roswitha: The statement you made, Tamikidakika is utter nonsense, I had no problems when I explored the conservative Fatih neighborhood, I did not see any miniskirts there |
Hi Ros
Unfortunately, it is not utter nonsense - and we wish it was ! Fatih is very famous in Istanbul for being more like Iran-style that Turkey and it also depends on when you go. My husband would not even venture to go there, particularly at certains times in the year and week. It has been all over television here, secret programmes and news reports and I can tell you, Tamikidakika's point is true sadly, you just wouldn't want to go there. Maleseef 
Have a lovely day!
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 05:56 pm |
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Concerning Fatih maybe you see something that isn't necessarily there. I have been there as well and never saw anything like described. Maybe it's like going to certain parts of Beyoglu expecting to see transvestites, you can be sure to spot hundreds. If you really want to find them that is.
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 06:03 pm |
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Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Quoting Roswitha: The statement you made, Tamikidakika is utter nonsense, I had no problems when I explored the conservative Fatih neighborhood, I did not see any miniskirts there |
Tamikidakika is trying to hijack the thread because he cannot take critcism |
 you drink when working?
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 06:17 pm |
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Quoting tamikidakika:
you drink when working? |
Yes - the elixir of youth
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14 Jul 2008 Mon 10:47 pm |
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I loved the mixture of cultures in Turkey, covered women walking step by step with women in mini skirts. That is a sign of tolerance.
Daydreamer, you hit the nail when I totally read your message. I agree with you! 
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15 Jul 2008 Tue 01:34 am |
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whats the harm for see mini skirt and head scarf on side by side??which one of us can say you can't live on there where i'm living or while i'm living??who gives the right to us,to don't see different life stilies or different life opinions just being all selfish??i believe thats very easy problem for fix if we all really willing that,once word enough ,we can say ''Yes'' we can live in peace by respect each others prefers in a public order,is it really this much hard???And i think noone doesn't have any right to be moral watcher of another one,and i think our great country a very good sample to all world for show peace of different life stilies...Just pity some of us never aware of this goodness???And i believe a real democracy's road pass on from ''pluralism'' never from ''majority'',coz world and life not only about we r and the things what we like or dislike...
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15 Jul 2008 Tue 08:38 am |
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Quoting MrX67: whats the harm for see mini skirt and head scarf on side by side?? |
I think you didn't understand it - both Roswitha and I said it is a sign of tolerance and a good thing to see
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15 Jul 2008 Tue 01:45 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: Quoting MrX67: whats the harm for see mini skirt and head scarf on side by side?? |
I think you didn't understand it - both Roswitha and I said it is a sign of tolerance and a good thing to see |
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