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160.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 18 Jul 2009 Sat 01:51 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

  16? 20? 32? 45?

 

 Dad will be called in all ages if the girl has not married yet or the dad not died. In that case the brother or uncle will come ofcourse. I don´t think the mother is called by a police officer!

161.       abudy99
28 posts
 18 Jul 2009 Sat 01:56 am

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 I don´t think the Qur´an is simple at all, but it is easy to understand at one point: the one who doesn´t believe, will pay for it! So relevant sura´s for me, an infidel, are very simple. That´s what I meant to say.

 

 you can find a  quran and read it , you will discover how easy it is , or how infidel you are

 

thanks for internet , here is english and turkish translation for quran :

http://quran.al-islam.com/Index/indexe1.asp

162.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 18 Jul 2009 Sat 02:01 am

 

Quoting abudy99

 

 

 you can find a  quran and read it , you will discover how easy it is , or how infidel you are

 

thanks for internet , here is english and turkish translation for quran :

http://quran.al-islam.com/Index/indexe1.asp

 

I read the version by Abdullah Yusuf Ali in English, and a Dutch version a few years ago, but the Dutch one I didn´t finish.

 

And I discovered how awesome it is to be an infidel in this life

 

163.       abudy99
28 posts
 18 Jul 2009 Sat 02:02 am

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 

 

 Dad will be called in all ages if the girl has not married yet or the dad not died. In that case the brother or uncle will come ofcourse. I don´t think the mother is called by a police officer!

 

 thanks of islamic law , it´s so unusual to find a criminal women , you won´t find women in police deparments to call dads for

164.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 18 Jul 2009 Sat 02:05 am

 

Quoting abudy99

 

 

 thanks of islamic law , it´s so unusual to find a criminal women , you won´t find women in police deparments to call dads for

 

 I suppose you dont find many criminal men there either then.

165.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 18 Jul 2009 Sat 02:06 am

 

Quoting abudy99

 

 

 are you serious with this question ?

it´s a translation of holy quran verse .

 

 All my questions are serious. 

 

And if you believe that then you will believe that I would know it´s a verse from your holy book! 

166.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 18 Jul 2009 Sat 02:12 am

 

Quoting abudy99

 

 

 thanks of islamic law , it´s so unusual to find a criminal women , you won´t find women in police deparments to call dads for

 

Of course you won´t. Who will dare to uncover her face if she´s facing flogging? That´s how totalitarian governments work. Just think - evil, fat assed Americanes used to have slaves - if a slave disobeyed his master, he could kill him or her, so not many tried disobeying (not because they liked their position but because of fear). It is the same in Saudi - women have to cover themselves, people from Muslim families stay Muslims not because they want to - but because they will die if they don´t. (Not all of them of course, I´m sure most Saudi men are happy that they are men in a county where men have more rights than women).

 

I have a question - in Christianity, they say you will be judged after you die, not during your life. Isn´t it the same with Islam? If so, how come people are killed for converting from Islam? Isn´t it Allah´s job to judge them, not people´s? I can understand that people hurting other people should be punished - |I have no problem with capital punishment for murderers, rapists etc. But what kind of crime is it to show your face or believe in the Gods you choose?

167.       abudy99
28 posts
 18 Jul 2009 Sat 02:12 am

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 

 

I read the version by Abdullah Yusuf Ali in English, and a Dutch version a few years ago, but the Dutch one I didn´t finish.

 

And I discovered how awesome it is to be an infidel in this life

 

 

 it´s your decision , as allah says in qur´an (( [256] Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects Evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.  ))

 

and you did´t descover yet how will it be when some one was an infidel  , in the other life

168.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 18 Jul 2009 Sat 02:13 am

 

Quoting abudy99

 

 

 it´s your decision , as allah says in qur´an (( [256] Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects Evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.  ))

 

and you did´t descover yet how will it be when some one was an infidel  , in the other life

 

So how does it go with killing those who reject religion?

169.       abudy99
28 posts
 18 Jul 2009 Sat 02:16 am

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 

 

 I suppose you dont find many criminal men there either then.

 

 you will find some , but not like the western countries .

according to last report i have heard , there is 1 crime every 2 minutes in england Confused 

what is this ??? england or hell ??

170.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 18 Jul 2009 Sat 02:17 am

 

Quoting abudy99

 

 

 it´s your decision , as allah says in qur´an (( [256] Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects Evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.  ))

 

and you did´t descover yet how will it be when some one was an infidel  , in the other life

 

If your god is a GOOD one, I will discover in the other life what the value of being a GOOD PERSON is, instead of saying you believe.

 

But I wonder what Allah is saying here:

 

Surah 2:

6. As to those who reject faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe.

7. Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur).

 

To me it sounds like it is not my fault that I cannot see the truth, for allah has covered my eyes!

 

 

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