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Racism in America
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17 Nov 2008 Mon 08:28 pm |
Could you try to be a bit relevant. Where is the connection between my liking and admiring Cuban people and your labeling people like Alameda types etc. To say the least, that is not polite at all. Even if I was wrong in the message you are talking about you cannot justify a mistake with another one... Agreed?
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17 Nov 2008 Mon 08:31 pm |
If we based on as strict rules as say Catwoman bases on when determining whether someone is sexist or not I´d say you are a racist. Some of the examples that you give such as categorically not finding black people sexy are proving this point. If you ask me what I think about Halle Berry, I´d say she is probably one of the sexiest persons in the world... Anything that categorically singles out a certain race is a tad racist. Our intention must be removing the roots of racism.
Halle Berry is not an African woman, please... you are not proving that you are not racist, you are proving to be sexist VY, by an objectifying, narrow, sexist standards of female ´beauty´. Berry is a hollywood made ´star´ that copies exactly the same beauty ideas as every other woman in hollywood is supposed to and as teh world is trained to find attractive. this has absolutely nothing to do with real women, and especially real black women.
not finding black men sexy, I don´t think that´s racist, because our attitudes towards attractiveness are very much cultural and based on socialization and conditioning. it has nothing to do with racism.
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17 Nov 2008 Mon 08:31 pm |
If we based on as strict rules as say Catwoman bases on when determining whether someone is sexist or not I´d say you are a racist. Some of the examples that you give such as categorically not finding black people sexy are proving this point. If you ask me what I think about Halle Berry, I´d say she is probably one of the sexiest persons in the world... Anything that categorically singles out a certain race is a tad racist. Our intention must be removing the roots of racism.
Sorry Vineyards, in this case I don´t agree. Why can´t anyone say they find a certain group not attractive? I´ve heard many men say they don´t like blondes, only brunettes (v.v.). What are they? You probably have your ideas of what is attractive as well, you probably rule(d) out many types of women.
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17 Nov 2008 Mon 08:33 pm |
i dont know, i never managed to understand alameda types. but i truly believe there are lots of masochist women in this world.
you see thats why you dont see here and anywhere any turkish or muslim women criticising their countries, culture and religion.
that is quite shallow. I think you are really an example of what you criticize...
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17 Nov 2008 Mon 08:34 pm |
not finding black men sexy, I don´t think that´s racist, because our attitudes towards attractiveness are very much cultural and based on socialization and conditioning. it has nothing to do with racism.
Thanks for this, cat...I was trying to articulate the thought in my head...this is perfect. I personally gravitate toward a certain look...but I have never felt any contempt for any other look. I just definately have my preferences.
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17 Nov 2008 Mon 08:35 pm |
Could you try to be a bit relevant. Where is the connection between my liking and admiring Cuban people and your labeling people like Alameda types etc. To say the least, that is not polite at all. Even if I was wrong in the message you are talking about you cannot justify a mistake with another one... Agreed?
look, vineyards, i hate being silenced. i do know that i have a i right to express my thoughts about alameda´s opinions. or you are gonna limit my rights? you yourslef in the past used various types of expressions. then i didnt jump on you. save your politeness for your own majesty.
call me impolite, i prefer being so instead of a perfidious manipulative snake whos more harmful and dangerous (you know whom i mean).
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17 Nov 2008 Mon 08:36 pm |
Well, I am not like certain men and I do think I can find a brunette or blonde sexy. I never thought race would be a determining factor. I could fall for a Chinese or an Ethiopian just as well. I am ready for all possibilities
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17 Nov 2008 Mon 08:38 pm |
Thanks for this, cat...I was trying to articulate the thought in my head...this is perfect. I personally gravitate toward a certain look...but I have never felt any contempt for any other look. I just definately have my preferences.
I think the word ´contempt´ is the keyword here. Finding group X not attractive because you hold them in contempt is quite something different than finding group X not attractive just because of different preferences.
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17 Nov 2008 Mon 08:39 pm |
that is quite shallow. I think you are really an example of what you criticize...
in which way. didnt understand. what is shallow? oh, you are doing something here, you are playing with me at the cost of myself.
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17 Nov 2008 Mon 08:40 pm |
I think the word ´contempt´ is the keyword here. Finding group X not attractive because you hold them in contempt is quite something different than finding group X not attractive just because of different preferences.
Well, when it comes to the opposite sex....I have very little contempt!
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17 Nov 2008 Mon 08:41 pm |
look, vineyards, i hate being silenced. i do know that i have a i right to express my thoughts about alameda´s opinions. or you are gonna limit my rights? you yourslef in the past used various types of expressions. then i didnt jump on you. save your politeness for your own majesty.
call me impolite, i prefer being so instead of a perfidious manipulative snake whos more harmful and dangerous (you know whom i mean).
Sticking to everyday English, I would like to say again that I find people using phrases like Alemada types, Vineyards types etc very shallow and impolite. Excuse me if I hurt your feelings. You are of course free to accept or reject this view of mine. I am not limiting you in any way unless you openly attack people. In my opinion, remarks such as yours can be considered the last stop before a personal attack and they surely invite it.
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