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"Obama`s grandfather ate Polish missionaries"
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1.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 07:21 am



Poland has been Forced to Deny Radek Sikorski, Foreign Minister, ´Joked´ that Barack Obama´s Grandparents were Cannibals

Writing in his blog, Mr Czarnecki, an MEP, quoted the foreign minister as saying: "Have you heard that Obama may have a Polish connection? His grandfather ate a Polish missionary."

A spokesman for the Polish foreign office conceded that Mr Sikorski had made the controversial comment, but denied that the foreign minister had intended to insult Mr Obama, whose father was Kenyan.

"Mr Sikorski did not tell a racist joke," said Piotr Paszkowski, the spokesman. "He was only giving an example of the unpalatable and racist ´jokes´ that surround President Elect Obama." Source: U.K. Telegraph

 

http://blackpoliticalthought.blogspot.com/2008/11/poland-has-been-forced-to-deny-radek.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

What is the point of denying that their minister is a racist bigot? but if what he said is true, I can start liking Obama.{#lang_emotions_lol}

 

 

 

 

 

 

2.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 08:21 am

First of all I am not sure why this is racist? Second of all, why does it make him a ´racist bigot´? You are truly a wonder, tamiki! lol You never cease to amaze us where you spew your hatred next.

3.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 08:32 am

 

Quoting tamikidakika

 

 

but if what he said is true, I can start liking Obama.{#lang_emotions_lol}

 

 Hmmm, you did always kind of give the impression that you were the type to eat your young! {#lang_emotions_scared}

4.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 08:44 am

 

Quoting catwoman

First of all I am not sure why this is racist? Second of all, why does it make him a ´racist bigot´? You are truly a wonder, tamiki! lol You never cease to amaze us where you spew your hatred next.

 

First of all, your post is making me think that Poles are not even able to see this is racist.

 

Second of all, Im not the one who is throwing out hatred but your dear minister whom you`re pointlessly trying to defend.

5.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 08:46 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

Hmmm, you did always kind of give the impression that you were the type to eat your young! {#lang_emotions_scared}

 

my young? you don`t know how old I am. I`m sure that I`m much younger than you{#lang_emotions_cool}

6.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 08:54 am

 

Quoting catwoman

First of all I am not sure why this is racist? Second of all, why does it make him a ´racist bigot´?

 

 Of course it is a racist comment!!!! You don´t see it?  Would he have made that comment about a white president?  He is referring to some primitive "tribe" to try and humiliate Obama in this "joke".  It is outrageous! {#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

As the article says:-

 

"What a bunch of idiots. Again, is this the best Poland could do? Don´t they have bigger issues to worry about? Like Russia breathing down their back. Say what you will, Barack Obama will still become the next President of the United States."

7.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 03:13 pm

Racist? Poles? OF COURSE! We are racists and even if we don´t realise that. Another Polish MP said that with Obama´s presidency, the era of white man´s rule in USA is over. Nobody felt offended because it´s tolerable to say so in Poland. We don´t have a significant black community to protest and we go on believing the rest of the world is like us. Sikorski, though should be more sensitive to this issue as he´s got British education as far as I know

8.       CANLI
5084 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 04:36 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

First of all I am not sure why this is racist?

 

 lol,because that is what is it ...a racist comment,he was refering to his roots in Africa,labeling them by being cannibals there.

And coming from politician,its far for being tactic.

9.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 05:52 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

  He is referring to some primitive "tribe" to try and humiliate Obama in this "joke".  It is outrageous! {#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

Yes, this is primitive and stupid, but I don´t think it´s racist. How does it ´denigrate race´? Everybody has primitive tribal roots, it´s a fact. Just because he wouldn´t say that about a white president doesn´t mean anything, because only europeans are whites. To me it just shows ignorance.

10.       bydand
755 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 06:16 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Yes, this is primitive and stupid, but I don´t think it´s racist. How does it ´denigrate race´? Everybody has primitive tribal roots, it´s a fact. Just because he wouldn´t say that about a white president doesn´t mean anything, because only europeans are whites. To me it just shows ignorance.

 

 Of course it is blatant racism if he did in fact say it. How anyone could say otherwise is amazing, also this guy is apparently in charge of foreign affairs.{#lang_emotions_scared}

11.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 07:30 pm

 

Quoting bydand

 Of course it is blatant racism if he did in fact say it.

 

please explain why, if it´s that obvious.

12.       lady in red
6947 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 08:34 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

First of all I am not sure why this is racist?

 

Quoting CANLI

 lol,because that is what is it ...a racist comment,he was refering to his roots in Africa,labeling them by being cannibals there.

And coming from politician,its far for being tactic.

 

Not a tactful comment certainly but whoever said that cannibals only lived in Africa?  Following courtesy of the beloved Wikepedia!

 

Cannibalism (from Spanish caníbal, in connection with cannibalism among the Antillean Caribs)[1], also called anthropophagy (from Greek: ἄνθρωπος, anthropos, "human being"; and φαγειν, phagein, "to eat") is the act or practice of humans eating other humans. In zoology, the term "cannibalism" is extended to refer to any species consuming members of its own kind (see cannibalism (zoology)).

Neanderthals are believed to have practiced cannibalism.[2] [3] Among modern humans it has been practiced by various groups;[4] In the past in Prehistoric Europe,[5][6] Africa,[7] South America,[8] New Zealand,[9] North America,[10] Australia,[11] Solomon Islands,[12] New Caledonia,[13] New Guinea,[14] India,[15] Sumatra,[16] and Fiji,[17] usually in rituals connected to tribal warfare. Fiji was once known as the ´Cannibal Isles´. Evidence of cannibalism has been found in the Chaco Canyon ruins of the Anasazi culture

 

(Maybe he was referring to Obama´s maternal grandfather????)

 

 

13.       alameda
3499 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 09:23 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

(Maybe he was referring to Obama´s maternal grandfather????)

 

 

In my opinion it was a very racist remark.......

however I remember some recent cases....and in reviewing them....

 

Secret world of the suburban cannibal

 

it seems to be more of a European phenomenon

14.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 10:23 pm

unfortunately poland is ruled by NATIONALISTS. they use stupid and sick jokes.

 

just waiting for DDs entry on this subject.

15.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 11:12 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 I knew someone was going to say that  - I nearly went through and removed all the links!

 

 you are paranoid!

16.       lady in red
6947 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 11:14 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 you are paranoid!

 

 Paranoid schizophrenic actually!   {#lang_emotions_scared}{#lang_emotions_angel}{#lang_emotions_ninja} - be very careful around the two of me  {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

17.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 11:36 pm

I am going to delete femme´s posts where she continues to refer to alameda.

18.       libralady
5152 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 11:58 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

unfortunately poland is ruled by NATIONALISTS. they use stupid and sick jokes.

 

just waiting for DDs entry on this subject.

 

 And some of those NATIONALISTS have come to Britain and most probably joined the BNP, now let me check the list {#lang_emotions_scared}.

19.       catwoman
8933 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 12:03 am

 

Quoting libralady

 And some of those NATIONALISTS have come to Britain and most probably joined the BNP, now let me check the list {#lang_emotions_scared}.

 

BNP is quite a predictable outcome of the islamization through saudi money in europe. I believe it is going to get much worse.

20.       femmeous
2642 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 12:06 am

i personally think that obama´s voters are racists.

21.       bydand
755 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 12:47 am

 

Quoting catwoman

Quoting bydand

 Of course it is blatant racism if he did in fact say it.

 

please explain why, if it´s that obvious.

 

 I don´t know about Poland catwoman but in Britain if a person makes jokes or ridicules a person from another ethnic group it is classed as racism, but then again as you said before I am not capable of deep intellectual thoughts.{#lang_emotions_sad}

22.       catwoman
8933 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 12:59 am

 

Quoting bydand

 I don´t know about Poland catwoman but in Britain if a person makes jokes or ridicules a person from another ethnic group it is classed as racism, but then again as you said before I am not capable of deep intellectual thoughts.{#lang_emotions_sad}

 

Well, in Britain, anything is called racism. Even criticizing obvious things in one or another group or religion is called racism. I am not defending the stupid joke that this man said, I think it´s primitive and offensive. But I do not think it´s racist. It does not imply anything about a particular race, even if Africa is backwards in some ways, that is not to say that black people are somehow inferior to white people. I am sure the meaning of this joke depends on the context as well, but only based on what I know, I don´t see how it is racist. I think that calling this joke racist is similart to me calling you racist because you criticized someone/something from my country.

23.       doudi94
845 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 01:17 am

 

Quoting catwoman

Well, in Britain, anything is called racism. Even criticizing obvious things in one or another group or religion is called racism. I am not defending the stupid joke that this man said, I think it´s primitive and offensive. But I do not think it´s racist. It does not imply anything about a particular race, even if Africa is backwards in some ways, that is not to say that black people are somehow inferior to white people. I am sure the meaning of this joke depends on the context as well, but only based on what I know, I don´t see how it is racist. I think that calling this joke racist is similart to me calling you racist because you criticized someone/something from my country.

 

OMG wheres Trudy? Smbdy find me trudy now! ASAP!!! HEr sensor vision forgot to screen this post! Trudy where are you? Wheer are you with your human rights/ CAt is callign a place backwards! Its a disaster! but i guess as long as its coming from a westerners mouth its right , right? ouf i swear u guys made me go crazy i was neve rlike this before! i never had this whole west and east thign! I nevr knw westerners were so stuck up though! Well, so not to make a generalisation... only a couplethat i met are and might i add theyr on this site! I uess every rule has its exceptions....

24.       alameda
3499 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 01:20 am

 

Quoting catwoman

Well, in Britain, anything is called racism. Even criticizing obvious things in one or another group or religion is called racism. I am not defending the stupid joke that this man said, I think it´s primitive and offensive. But I do not think it´s racist. It does not imply anything about a particular race, even if Africa is backwards in some ways, that is not to say that black people are somehow inferior to white people. I am sure the meaning of this joke depends on the context as well, but only based on what I know, I don´t see how it is racist. I think that calling this joke racist is similart to me calling you racist because you criticized someone/something from my country.

 

 You know I think how you see it depends a great deal on your cultural context. You most probably are unaware of how Blacks and cannibalism have been related in the US. Here in the US a common image to demean blacks would be cooking Europeans up in pots. The stereotypes had bones in their noses.

 

The actual cannibals were in the Pacific, not Africa. Head hunting and cannibalism were prevelent in the Americas, Columbus met some, as did Cortez with the Aztecs

25.       catwoman
8933 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 01:43 am

 

Quoting alameda

 You know I think how you see it depends a great deal on your cultural context. You most probably are unaware of how Blacks and cannibalism have been related in the US. Here in the US a common image to demean blacks would be cooking Europeans up in pots. The stereotypes had bones in their noses.

 

The actual cannibals were in the Pacific, not Africa. Head hunting and cannibalism were prevelent in the Americas, Columbus met some, as did Cortez with the Aztecs

 

I think you are quite right about this alameda... I have never even heard this kind of ´joke´ before..

26.       tassia
50 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 12:55 am

the statement is racist, condescending and utterly ignorant, if kenyans actually ate people then there would be no problem to make a statement like that because it would be true and because its false going out of your way in front of the media as a political leader to make a false statement like really states that you are a racist idiot.

As a world leader who is trying to do right be your nation it would be petty to say that and then call yourself a leader and to set a huge example for you people its makes you look like a joke.

 

and you of all person sent Obama a letter of congratulation on his victory in becoming america´s next president you are so fake. its just so pathetic that people have to be making up racist lies just to get what........?

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