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Turkey jails Kurdish politician Ms Zana
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130.       armegon
1872 posts
 07 Dec 2008 Sun 03:15 am

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I am calling the guy primitive and you are accusing me that I am trying to show him as an angel? hahaha

You really made me laugh man..

 

Lack of understanding, i said "i think describing him like this" and then said "expect more soften term from you" , do you want me to spell maybe more easy to understand ?

 

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So they are a faulty people eh? somehow, they always choose to be a toy of others? You are accusing the Kurds as people here. That seems abit of a racism to me.. Dont you think? 

As i said, im a plain person, if it is their choice; instead of rebelling the facist Agas or other, some choose to rebel the state. Saying this racism, then so it be, i cant twist well unfortunately.

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what am I trying to do here then? What made up accusations are you talking? I have already given  many documents here..

Everyone can find documents from biased or PKK sympathizer web page, these dont mean they are saying the truth. Just like Ros´s one, when one "who just nothing knows about Turkish politics" says "wow how wonderful Zana, she won also human rights award" without knowing reality and her racist comments, thats just you are trying to do here to justify terrorism.

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The one of the last links was people who were KILLED (MADE DISSPEAR) by our security forces for example. Do you talk about it? no. Do you have a heart to say that ´yes our security forces killed those people unlawfully?´ ..no.

Yes, it seems you dont want to remember my posts about the events such as 6-7 Eylül or the events caused 1980 coup, but i always explained what caused them instead of defaming the whole nation. You need to freshen your memory.

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I showed you a slap on the face  documentation ´sark islahat plani´ for example. do you say anything about it? no.

Which slap? I had shown you many times what caused Islahat planý and never defended it.

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I gave many many examples of how ´our own mistakes created´ this entire kurdish problem. do you come up with anything apart from ´ah they are all terrorists, they are toys of the foreign powers´? no..

Haha, im not throwing all blame to Turkish authorities, thats our difference. Btw never called all Kurds terrorists. Do you come up with anything that it is result of Turkish racism?

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If you come up with credible arguments, I promise to tell you more stories and facts from the history about the entire problem. But since you are not producing anything I dont think it is worth really..

Ok, i will do my best to satisfy you by producing something then, please dont hesitate to come-up with your so-called facts from history .

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So the argument with you is over for me in this thread..

Bay Bay, see you next time{#lang_emotions_wink}

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I still recommend you to go and read more though

thehandsom, i recommend you to read me more

131.       lady in red
6947 posts
 07 Dec 2008 Sun 11:20 am

 

Quoting amicamia

Here to teach or learn Turkish ...or to make comments on political issues half of which are nothing more than lies organised to steal people´s time,to make them think of useless things???

I visit here sometimes,boast with the teachers trying to teach Turkish for free and the learners who are willing to learn it.

Yes,forums generally include sharing ideas but not the ones inviting people to think of  racism!

So,please dear admins...could it be possible to close this subject of the forum ?

 

thanks in advance..wishing you all the best in your teaching and learning duration.

regards, 

 

Although this is Turkish Language site it is a lot more than just a site for teaching/learning Turkish.  The forums are a big part of the site.  Some people come to learn Turkish, others come to take part in the forums where there are many discussions about politics, religion and the world in general.  Thank you for your opinion but as a new member who has not even taken part in the ongoing topic I don´t think you should just ´jump in´ with these comments.  I also don´t think that people are being ´invited´ to think about racism - its all around us unfortunately and it´s hard to avoid thinking about it.

 

Anyway, welcome to the site and I am sure your help as a Turkish teacher will be much appreciated  

132.       Trudy
7887 posts
 07 Dec 2008 Sun 11:29 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

It seems that you are implying that handsom’s contributions are less than yours (which I wonder about because you only have 6 posts here) just because you do not agree with his point of view. Handsom has been a great contributor to translations….including many, many poems, songs and requests by insipid girls who don’t bother learning the language of the men they get involved with.

 

You also imply that members are not smart enough to form their own opinions……that infuriates me! We are not sheep. We don’t read something posted and think….OMG this MUST be true!!! Most of us are intelligent and know how to research things that peak our interest and then form our own conclusions.

 

If you find the thread distasteful enough that you feel it necessary to call for someone else to put a stop to it….just don’t respond!

 

 Great post GG!!

133.       lady in red
6947 posts
 07 Dec 2008 Sun 11:33 am

This thread is really going nowhere but round and round in circles and personally I think it´s becoming incrasingly more difficult for non-Turks to follow.  Thehandsom says ´the argument is over for me in this thread´ but if it´s going to continue don´t you think it would be better if you guys took this to pm? 

134.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 07 Dec 2008 Sun 11:33 am

 

Quoting Trudy

 Great post GG!!

 

 You are all wasting your time.  If you want to talk to Amicamia you have to first use Paypal

135.       Trudy
7887 posts
 07 Dec 2008 Sun 12:10 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 You are all wasting your time.  If you want to talk to Amicamia you have to first use Paypal

 

 Can you pass it please? (AND donate!!!)

 

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