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1914/1915/Young Turks/ Sarikamis/Armenian issue. Some events from history.
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20.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 03:11 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

Þükrü Elekdað: Ermeni katliamýndan ölen Türk sayýsýnýn 517 bin olduðu söyleniyor. Tabii Ermeni rakamlarýnýn ne olduðu konusunda ise deðiþik rakamlar var. Bunlar 300 bin rakamýný ileri sürüyorlar, Tarihçi McCarthy 600 bin rakamýný ileri sürüyor. Türk Tarih Kurumu’nun ileri sürdüðü rakamlar bunlarýn daha altýnda.

 

 

 

300,000, 500,000 or 600,000. it`s impossible to know the exact number, but the total number of armenians who were subject to deportation, that they came up with, 900,000 proves that the total number of armenian who died must be very close to what the Turkish thesis says. it`s documented that hundreds of thousands of armenians resetled in various locations of the ottoman empire after the deportation, so that proves the number of armenian casualties were much closer to what Turkey says than what the armenian liars say, 1,500,000. the census records prove that there were not even more than 1.2 million of armenians at that time, but somehow according to these armenian liars the Turks killed more than 1.2 million!

 

But :

Could you give us the source then we all learn where Halacoglu accepted that value of 500.000?

It is quite important because it will tell us that army was not telling the truth and also it will contradict with what our official thesis was during the years..

And also, it will tell us which one of you is not telling the truth as you both seem to represent the official thesis

21.       si++
3785 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 03:15 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

But :

Could you give us the source then we all learn where Halacoglu accepted that value of 500.000?

It is quite important because it will tell us that army was not telling the truth and also it will contradict with what our official thesis was during the years..

And also, it will tell us which one of you is not telling the truth as you both seem to represent the official thesis

 

I think he accepts 50,000 only because I watched him one week ago on TV8 saying 9000 killed byKurdish gangs and 40000 dying of other causes (diseases etc) on the way.

 

Where did you see the Army accept 400,000?

 

http://www.tsk.mil.tr/8_TARIHTEN_KESITLER/8_1_Ermeni_Sorunu/Ermeni_Sorunu.htm

22.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 03:25 pm

 

Quoting si++

I think he accepts 50,000 only because I watched him one week ago on TV8 saying 9000 killed byKurdish gangs and 40000 dying of other causes (diseases etc) on the way.

 

Where did you see the Army accept 400,000?

 

The first post from you in this thread says that 422.000 have been deported..It was what the army says..Murat Bardakci also mentions that ´the army´ says around 400.000 deportees..

Lets see what tami will come up as his source in which we will see Halacoglu accepts the armenian casualties as 500.000 ..

23.       tinababy
1096 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 03:28 pm

why is this thread too wide for the page? Or is it just me? It makes for very difficult reading!

modified  - great it is sorted by page 2 - much easier, thanks

24.       si++
3785 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 03:28 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

The first post from you in this thread says that 422.000 That´s Yusuf Halaçoðlu have been deported..It was what the army says..Murat Bardakci also mentions that ´the army´ says around 400.000 deportees.. Deportees not those that were killed/died of some cause.

Lets see what tami will come up as his source in which we will see Halacoglu accepts the armenian casualties as 500.000 ..

 

 

25.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 03:38 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

The first post from you in this thread says that 422.000 have been deported..It was what the army says..Murat Bardakci also mentions that ´the army´ says around 400.000 deportees..

Lets see what tami will come up as his source in which we will see Halacoglu accepts the armenian casualties as 500.000 ..

 

sorry it`s my mistake, it`s been years since I read his book. so as I apologized, can you tell us do you accept that those numbers prove the armenians wrong?

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