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Fact or virgin: Lies undone
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1.       Trudy
7887 posts
 01 Feb 2009 Sun 09:31 am

 
 
ISTANBUL - Doctors, lawyers, judges and legislators say a woman’s hymen reveals if she has had sexual intercourse. ’This is in fact a lie’ and an important message in the introduction to and throughout the book, ’Virgin: The Untouched History,’ says translator Emek Ergün

Last week a 22-year-old from San Diego, California, whose "virginity" has been famously on auction in recent months, said an Australian man had offered $3.8 million to be the first to have sex with her. In November the manger of a private girl’s dormitory in Istanbul alleged that an 18-year-old female student was sleeping with men Ð due to bruising on her face and neck Ð and tried to dismiss her. After two hospitals administered virginity tests on the girl, her father told the media that the tests proved she was a virgin.

The media often does little more than provoke further ignorance and expose that no culture is immune to the continued sexual objectification of women. From one form of exhibitionism to another, recent news magnifies virginity’s status as a commodity.

Read more: http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/lifestyle/10895698.asp?gid=244

 

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Since it is impossible to prove male virginity, I found the fuss about female virginity idiot! It is the body of the woman, who are ´they´ to demand (!) she should be a virgin?

2.       libralady
5152 posts
 01 Feb 2009 Sun 12:54 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 
 
ISTANBUL - Doctors, lawyers, judges and legislators say a woman’s hymen reveals if she has had sexual intercourse. ’This is in fact a lie’ and an important message in the introduction to and throughout the book, ’Virgin: The Untouched History,’ says translator Emek Ergün

Last week a 22-year-old from San Diego, California, whose "virginity" has been famously on auction in recent months, said an Australian man had offered $3.8 million to be the first to have sex with her. In November the manger of a private girl’s dormitory in Istanbul alleged that an 18-year-old female student was sleeping with men Ð due to bruising on her face and neck Ð and tried to dismiss her. After two hospitals administered virginity tests on the girl, her father told the media that the tests proved she was a virgin.

The media often does little more than provoke further ignorance and expose that no culture is immune to the continued sexual objectification of women. From one form of exhibitionism to another, recent news magnifies virginity’s status as a commodity.

Read more: http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/lifestyle/10895698.asp?gid=244

 

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Since it is impossible to prove male virginity, I found the fuss about female virginity idiot! It is the body of the woman, who are ´they´ to demand (!) she should be a virgin?

 

I agree Trudy, it is a complete and utter farce!

 

It is even impossible to prove that a woman is a virgin, depending on what method of sanitary protection she uses!!! {#lang_emotions_get_you}  A woman who uses tampons regularly can cause the hymen to break therefore making her seem she has lost her virginity.  

3.       Trudy
7887 posts
 01 Feb 2009 Sun 01:01 pm

 

Quoting libralady

I agree Trudy, it is a complete and utter farce!

 

It is even impossible to prove that a woman is a virgin, depending on what method of sanitary protection she uses!!! {#lang_emotions_get_you}  A woman who uses tampons regularly can cause the hymen to break therefore making her seem she has lost her virginity.  

 

Even if she did by sexual intercourse, so what? Women are not the possesion of men, not merchandise! As long as men think they have the right to f*** around, I think at least women have the right to decide about their own body! (Acting the same or staying a virgin, I don´t care, it must be THEIR decision!)

4.       lessluv
1052 posts
 01 Feb 2009 Sun 03:06 pm

http://www.hellas.org/mongols/mongols/tr-hwr10.htm

 

As the report notes, in societies as diverse as China and Italy, female virginity is emphasized as an important social norm that operates as a means of controlling women´s behavior.  Women who compromise their reputations as virgins may be regarded as unmarriageable or may be reviled by their family members.  The threat of such consequences compels women to conform to the behavioral standards deemed honorable in their community.

The state´s own use of forcible virginity exams legitimize the regulation of female virginity in Turkey more generally where social and legal norms combine to equate the maintenance of female virginity with family or male honor.  A woman´s rights to bodily integrity and privacy are seen as subordinate to the family´s interest in maintaining its honor, in part through the use of virginity control exams.  Although the conduct of private individuals is largely outside the scope of the report, Human Rights Watch is concerned about state involvement in the conduct of invasive and degrading virginity control exams instigated by private individuals.

 

 

{#lang_emotions_rant}so frustrating

5.       Trudy
7887 posts
 01 Feb 2009 Sun 03:46 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

http://www.hellas.org/mongols/mongols/tr-hwr10.htm

 

As the report notes, in societies as diverse as China and Italy, female virginity is emphasized as an important social norm that operates as a means of controlling women´s behavior.  Women who compromise their reputations as virgins may be regarded as unmarriageable or may be reviled by their family members.  The threat of such consequences compels women to conform to the behavioral standards deemed honorable in their community.

The state´s own use of forcible virginity exams legitimize the regulation of female virginity in Turkey more generally where social and legal norms combine to equate the maintenance of female virginity with family or male honor.  A woman´s rights to bodily integrity and privacy are seen as subordinate to the family´s interest in maintaining its honor, in part through the use of virginity control exams.  Although the conduct of private individuals is largely outside the scope of the report, Human Rights Watch is concerned about state involvement in the conduct of invasive and degrading virginity control exams instigated by private individuals.

 

 

{#lang_emotions_rant}so frustrating

 

That´s un understatement! Why are women with several partners in their lives called whores and men with several partners in one season called studs? It makes me so angry!

 

6.       libralady
5152 posts
 01 Feb 2009 Sun 04:27 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Even if she did by sexual intercourse, so what? Women are not the possesion of men, not merchandise! As long as men think they have the right to f*** around, I think at least women have the right to decide about their own body! (Acting the same or staying a virgin, I don´t care, it must be THEIR decision!)

 

 Hey Trudy, I am on your side!!!!

7.       mertatasoy
60 posts
 01 Feb 2009 Sun 05:40 pm

 

Yes, Trudy. I completely agree with you.

In Turkey, the situation is worse, unfortunately.

 

8.       Trudy
7887 posts
 01 Feb 2009 Sun 06:17 pm

And as usual it are only women reacting! Where are the men, where is that big mouth now? Come on guys, tell us what YOU think, what YOU can do to change this?

9.       femmeous
2642 posts
 01 Feb 2009 Sun 06:29 pm

 is studs something to be proud of it?

what i know for men having more women is a success.

we lived and continue to live in a patriarchial world, although if not women there would be no men. when you look at it, its actually is a comedy, because we are the base of everything, no women - no family, no women - no children etc etc. but however we somehow manage to be treated as second class citizens. the more we give the more we are humiliated. isnt it a paradox?

 

Quoting Trudy

That´s un understatement! Why are women with several partners in their lives called whores and men with several partners in one season called studs? It makes me so angry!

 

 

10.       femmeous
2642 posts
 01 Feb 2009 Sun 06:30 pm

 can my posts count as from men?

 

Quoting Trudy

And as usual it are only women reacting! Where are the men, where is that big mouth now? Come on guys, tell us what YOU think, what YOU can do to change this?

 

 

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