Welcome
Login:   Pass:     Register - Forgot Password - Resend Activation

Turkish Class Forums / Turkish Politics

Turkish Politics

Add reply to this discussion
Armenian Intellectuals Issue Apology For The Turkish Genocide
(18 Messages in 2 pages - View all)
1 [2]
10.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 07 Feb 2009 Sat 10:16 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

What makes you think so? And what do you know? So please give us your sources. Enlighten us. What do you belive? How many muslims were killed by Armenians exactlyfirst of all according to your sources? And how many Armenians?


 

 

 

Oooo come on ya. ..This is getting boring now..

I can give you some names such as Halil Berktay, Murat Belge, Baskin Oran (even Murat Bardakci -What he says that ´if we did not do it, they would do it to us´ )etc...

But I wont give you a list..

And in order to finish this argument I will say that:

My source is "Oracle"..OK? lol

11.       si++
3785 posts
 07 Feb 2009 Sat 10:32 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Oooo come on ya. ..This is getting boring now..

I can give you some names such as Halil Berktay, Murat Belge, Baskin Oran (even Murat Bardakci -What he says that ´if we did not do it, they would do it to us´ )etc...

But I wont give you a list..

And in order to finish this argument I will say that:

My source is "Oracle"..OK?

Your list tells it all. They are not even historians (except Berkay maybe and I don´t think he´s credible either). Of hakikaten ya this is fucking bullshit!

 

12.       armegon
1872 posts
 08 Feb 2009 Sun 01:24 am

I think its better to have knowledge about this reciprocal useless apology campaigns beforehand having opinions. Let me remind Armenians campaign will be started by an Australian Armenian, so i think it is important to know why he started such a campaign and what he aims by this. It is not surprising that Zaman hadnt mentioned this, because imo Zaman´s aim to just deceive people by saying "Armenians are apologizing too" so that AKP will continue its slave politics more freely. Lets look what this Australian Armenian says; first he clearly says he was afftected by the campaign started by so-called Turkish intellectuels and he was still thinking that Turks were apologizing for the alleged genocide, and its funny how he degraded the Armenian attacks in WW1, he says "Of course these crimes cannot be compared with the crime of annihilating a whole nation, but these are still crimes.". He mentions Turks sooner or later will accept this genocide. I have to say that this man not living in Armenia and may be the most moderate one but he is still insisting that turks genocided Armenians which is clearly not acceptable for Turkey.

 

Now lets see the big picture, everybody knows world having an economic crisis recentlyi and for sure Armenia´s economy is not good and they want Turkey to open Turkey-Armenia border. So lately Armenia tries to develop a relationship with Turkey by not losing anything and i guess AKP accepted their demands. But AKP needs to explain this to Turkish nation and these campaigns help AKP to direct their slavery politics. I think again a theatre is being performed and aim is as i mentioned to open Turkey-Armenia border in order to save Armenia and the cover of explaining this to Turkey is "Look, Armenians are also apologizing!". And its groundwork is being prepared by both Turkish and Armenian authorities. Armenia will reach its aim and again Turkey gains nothing, very usual for AKP politics.

 

By the way if Armenians are so sincere, why do they not retreat from Karabagh according to UN decisions? then for sure Turkey will open the border gates.

 

Lastly why none of these intellectuels point out the games of imperialists during WW1 which made this two nation bloody enemy? Anyway by my side one of the best thing had done by the state of Ottoman, deportation is one of the solution while they were active in WW1 and being killed inside by Armenians except there were some problems in the implementation of deportation.



Edited (2/8/2009) by armegon

13.       CANLI
5084 posts
 08 Feb 2009 Sun 02:19 am

 

Quoting si++

 

 

 Si, please modify your post and refrain from using those words in the forums, thank you.



Edited (2/8/2009) by CANLI

14.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Feb 2009 Mon 02:20 pm

Ha ha

what did I say in my first post?

 

Armenian academic retracts apology campaign over fierce reactions
...
Dr. Armen Gavakian from the Macquarie University in Sydney, inspired by a Turkish initiative, decided last month to launch a campaign to apologize to Turks for murders committed by the Asala organization in the 1980s.    

Gakavian, however, retracted the campaign over fierce criticism from Armenian diaspora, Hurriyet wrote.

Prof. Baskin Oran, one of the intellectuals who initiated the Turkish apology campaign, wrote in Agos daily that they were also exposed to similar reactions from his fellow citizens.

"His (campaign) resembled ours. Attacks from the Workshop for Armenian/Turkish Scholarship (WATS) started immediately... They asked whether the Turks made him write this," he wrote.
..

 

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/world/10960881.asp?scr=1

 

Tamis, si++s,armegons of Armenia seem won in Armenia!!

(this is also an indication that our democracy is in much better shape than Armenia)

 



Edited (2/9/2009) by thehandsom

15.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 12 Feb 2009 Thu 02:52 am

Booooorrrriiiiiinnnnnggggg......

 

We are tired of topics related to this or that about the Amenian claims.....

 

Everything has already been posted discussed, argued over, and closed by moderators...

 

You are right, and he is right, and I am right, and it is this or that and the numers are blah blah blah or etc. This shit is old news dude. Stop charging it up as if it is of some importance in the world news. It is a political tool. Nothing else.

 

16.       armegon
1872 posts
 12 Feb 2009 Thu 04:03 am

 

Quoting cynicmystic

Booooorrrriiiiiinnnnnggggg......

 

We are tired of topics related to this or that about the Amenian claims.....

 

Everything has already been posted discussed, argued over, and closed by moderators...

 

You are right, and he is right, and I am right, and it is this or that and the numers are blah blah blah or etc. This shit is old news dude. Stop charging it up as if it is of some importance in the world news. It is a political tool. Nothing else.

 

 

 Agreed

17.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 12 Feb 2009 Thu 04:58 am

 

Quoting cynicmystic

Booooorrrriiiiiinnnnnggggg......

 

We are tired of topics related to this or that about the Amenian claims.....

 

Everything has already been posted discussed, argued over, and closed by moderators...

 

You are right, and he is right, and I am right, and it is this or that and the numers are blah blah blah or etc. This shit is old news dude. Stop charging it up as if it is of some importance in the world news. It is a political tool. Nothing else.

 

 

you better tell this to your country`s beloved politicians.

18.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 19 Feb 2009 Thu 01:11 am

Ok, sice you kindly asked... I certainly will. Is there anything else you would like me to tell them about?

 

Like how constipated you feel about all this...?

 

I will let my country´s "beloved´ politicians know that there are ´beloved´ little venom spewing insects running around on TLC in need of pesticide.

 

 

Quoting tamikidakika

 

 

you better tell this to your country`s beloved politicians.

 

 

(18 Messages in 2 pages - View all)
1 [2]
Add reply to this discussion




Turkish Dictionary
Turkish Chat
Open mini chat
New in Forums
TLC servers hacked, all user emails & pass...
admin: We removed the user password data from the servers until the issue is ...
E-T: It´s one of the things on my bu...
gokuyum: No. It doesnt make sense. You can say ... yapmak istediğim bi...
T-E
og2009: DÜNYA TOPLUMU VE FELSEFE ... okul ... felsefe ... ....
Holidays in Turkey
: ...
24 HOUR FLASH SALE for learning Turkish e-...
qdemir: ...
Grammar Textbook
qdemir: ...
E-T: I see you have done this before?
harp00n: Bunu ... daha önce de ... Bu konuda iyi olduğun ç...
T-E
og2009: ...
T-E
og2009: ...
coronavirus
og2009: ...
OUR FRIENDS
og2009: ...
Coronavirus
harp00n: ...
Random Pictures of Turkey
Add thumbnails like this to your site
Most commented