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1.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 04:43 pm

 

This is a Turkish folk song (or may be not Turkish..I dont know) its name is given to the racist documentry in this thread..

I was looking for the right story for  this song but somehow there seems to be many different tales going around..

Although there is an argument about the origin of the song if it blongs to Armenians or Turks or Azeris, it is a beautiful  folk song.

 

One of the stories is :

A head of a christian Turkic tribe kipchaks had a beautiful blonde daughter and a young boy from Erzurum fell in love with her..

As typical as it is, the head of the tribe does not agree with that love and the lovers run off..Then the couple is followed by the men, got caught and the boy is killed..

 

Another version is:

A married guy called sargent Huseyin, falls in love with a blonde Armenian girl at the night of her wedding.. Huseyin raids the house at the same night and took the bride away with him..Though he was followed by the other armenian villagers, he manages to escape..His first wife dies and . But his religious father did not know that the new blonde bride was a christian and he does not like Armenians at all..

And the father kills the blonde bride with a sword while Huseyin was working in the field. Although the bride says ´ I am a muslim now´ in the end but it does not help!! 

 

Anyway, lets listen to the song

Links from azarbican

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHwV_GRvaVE (this is beautiful. I love it!!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7DpwIg7waY

A link from Armenia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7DpwIg7waY 

for Turks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1Oxoyr6hpo&feature=related (from Yavuz Bingol)

 

 

 



Edited (2/21/2009) by thehandsom

2.       femmeous
2642 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 04:51 pm

i have a difficulty imagining a blond armenian

 

and

 

not turkish tribe but TURKIC tribe

 

thank you.

3.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 04:53 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

i have a difficulty imagining a blond armenian

 

and

 

not turkish tribe but TURKIC tribe

 

thank you.

 

You need glasses femme lol

4.       femmeous
2642 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 05:00 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

You need glasses femme lol

 

 you should stop modifying lol

5.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 05:10 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 you should stop modifying lol

 

I wish we had an Armenian TC member here, so we could hear the story from them too..

6.       femmeous
2642 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 05:15 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I wish we had an Armenian TC member here, so we could hear the story from them too..

 

 we dont have many others too.

i think we had only greek member sophie.

we had only one israeli member ayla.

zero armenian

im the only borat

we have lots of british they dominate.

and lots of nervous turkish patriots abroad.

lol

7.       Trudy
7887 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 05:18 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 we dont have many others too.

i think we had only greek member sophie.

we had only one israeli member ayla.

zero armenian

im the only borat

we have lots of british they dominate.

and lots of nervous turkish patriots abroad.

lol

 

Hey, hey, what about us Dutch? Deli_kizin, Chantal and me? Eh? {#lang_emotions_rant}

 

And handsom, that idiot ex-bf of mine speaks Armenian, want his e-mail? lol lol

8.       si++
3785 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 05:26 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

This is a Turkish folk song (or may be not Turkish..I dont know) its name is given to the racist documentry in this thread..

I was looking for the right story for  this song but somehow there seems to be many different tales going around..

Although there is an argument about the origin of the song if it blongs to Armenians Who says so? Where is the proof. AFAIK it doesn´t or Turks or Azeris, it is a beautiful  folk song.

 

One of the stories is :

A head of a christian Turkic tribe kipchaks had a beautiful blonde daughter and a young boy from Erzurum fell in love with her..

As typical as it is, the head of the tribe does not agree with that love and the lovers run off..Then the couple is followed by the men, got caught and the boy is killed..

 

Another version is:

A married guy called sargent Huseyin, falls in love with a blonde Armenian girl at the night of her wedding.. Huseyin raids the house at the same night and took the bride away with him..Though he was followed by the other armenian villagers, he manages to escape..His first wife dies and . But his religious father did not know that the new blonde bride was a christian and he does not like Armenians at all..

And the father kills the blonde bride with a sword while Huseyin was working in the field. Although the bride says ´ I am a muslim now´ in the end but it does not help!! 

 

Anyway, lets listen to the song

Links from azarbican

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHwV_GRvaVE (this is beautiful. I love it!!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7DpwIg7waY

A link from Armenia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7DpwIg7waY 

for Turks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1Oxoyr6hpo&feature=related (from Yavuz Bingol)

 

 

 

 

This link says that it doesn´t belong to Armenians for example.

 

9.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 05:33 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

This link says that it doesn´t belong to Armenians for example.

 

 

Calm down...

I was just saying what I read in the papers (including your link). 

I dont think it matters that much..And if it blonged to Armenians I would be quite a nice thing to know so that we could say : "that is how we used to be living together, that is how our cultures are interconnected"..

10.       si++
3785 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 05:45 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Calm down...

I was just saying what I read in the papers (including your link). 

I dont think it matters that much..And if it blonged to Armenians I would be quite a nice thing to know so that we could say : "that is how we used to be living together, that is how our cultures are interconnected"..

 

Our cultures are connected anyway. Their language have much in common with Turkish. Their kitchen is very similar to ours. So is their music. We have many Armenian composers in classical Turkish music.

 

I bet many Armenians in USA still speak good Turkish.

11.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 05:50 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Our cultures are connected anyway. Their language have much in common with Turkish. Their kitchen is very similar to ours. So is their music. We have many Armenian composers in classical Turkish music.

 

I bet many Armenians in USA still speak good Turkish.

 

Exactly!!

We have lived together hundreds of years together..

Such a shame as both sides have people who hate the other part. And that hatred is nothing to do with with the culture we are from..  

12.       si++
3785 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 05:56 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Exactly!!

We have lived together hundreds of years together..

Such a shame as both sides have people who hate the other part. And that hatred is nothing to do with with the culture we are from..  

 

So what happened? Why do the Turks have to be the ones to be blamed solely.Don´t you think they did any wrong things to Turks? You always talk like Turks are the only ones to be blamed.

13.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 06:04 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

So what happened? Why do the Turks have to be the ones to be blamed solely.Don´t you think they did any wrong things to Turks? You always talk like Turks are the only ones to be blamed.

 

I think you did not read carefully what I wrote up there..

I m copying the part:

Such a shame as both sides have people who hate the other part

14.       si++
3785 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 06:10 pm

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I think you did not read carefully what I wrote up there..

I m copying the part:

Such a shame as both sides have people who hate the other part

 

Thank you for quote. Of course I don´t read your lengthy posts. I am just guessing what you may have written down in them after first few lines. You are always repeating yourself. Same all same all.

 

15.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 06:18 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

Thank you for quote. Of course I don´t read your lengthy posts. I am just guessing what you may have written down in them after first few lines. You are always repeating yourself. Same all same all.

 

 

well..

that post had only 3 lines, 36 words, 191 charachters in it..

So it was not that lengthy.. (I have drawn a line on the words which was not related to the post.) 

 

16.       si++
3785 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 06:20 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

well..

that post had only 3 lines, 36 words, 191 charachters in it..

So it was not that lengthy.. (I have drawn a line on the words which was not related to the post.) 

 

 

I am talking about your posts in general. They are lengthy usually and I cannot waste my time reading all of them.

17.       portokal
2516 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 10:41 pm

Wonderful. Ironies, wit and wisdom melting in this thread. Started with "sari gelin", ended up in a civl war. History flows live, under our very own noses...



Edited (2/21/2009) by portokal

18.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 10:56 pm

 

Quoting portokal

Wonderful. Ironies, wit and wisdom melting in this thread. Started with "sari gelin", ended up in a civl war. History flows live, under our very own noses...

 

I strictly deny that I have done anything wrong..



Edited (2/21/2009) by thehandsom

19.       alameda
3499 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 11:47 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

i have a difficulty imagining a blond armenian

 

I have met hundreds of Armenians (as there are very large communities in California and the New York Metropolitan areas) and I have NEVER seen a blond one. 

 

Black curly hair, beautiful large brown eyes, prominent nose and abundant body hair are the norm.

 

No, I don´t know about the whole body, but what is evident from the arms, fingers and necks points to an abundance.

 

20.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:02 am

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

No, I don´t know about the whole body, but what is evident from the arms, fingers and necks points to an abundance.

 

 

 its a shame you dont know. i think you should check the whole body and post your observation results here in tc. i think it is an important hair issue. we need to trace out hairy´s relatives.

21.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 28 Sep 2009 Mon 06:32 pm

This is a song posted by one of my friends in fb..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkG-3D10Ss4&feature=related

Sari gelin from Farid Farjad  with violin..

What a beauty and how great to think that this beauty is shared by almost everybody in the region..



Edited (9/28/2009) by thehandsom

22.       libralady
5152 posts
 28 Sep 2009 Mon 06:36 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

This is a song posted by one of my friends in fb..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkG-3D10Ss4&feature=related

Sari gelin from Farid Farjad  with violin..

What a beauty and how great to think that this beauty is shared by almost everybody in the region..

 

You are keen to advertise you are on facebook  - 2nd time in as many weeks <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

23.       _AE_
677 posts
 28 Sep 2009 Mon 06:38 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 

 

You are keen to advertise you are on facebook  - 2nd time in as many weeks <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 

 I bet he doesn´t have a farm though ... lol

24.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 28 Sep 2009 Mon 09:49 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 I bet he doesn´t have a farm though ... lol

 

AE - not having enough neighbours on FV? lol

 

25.       _AE_
677 posts
 28 Sep 2009 Mon 09:56 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

AE - not having enough neighbours on FV? lol

 

 

 I need a plantation! Rant

Nobody else wants to start a farm

26.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 28 Sep 2009 Mon 10:11 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 I need a plantation! Rant

Nobody else wants to start a farm

 

Awww...I feel deeply sorry for you AE, it must feel awfulNinja

27.       birdy
245 posts
 28 Sep 2009 Mon 10:12 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 I need a plantation! Rant

Nobody else wants to start a farm

 

 

hush AE,will it do???Ninja

28.       upsy_daisy
200 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 03:06 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

This is a Turkish folk song (or may be not Turkish..I dont know) ...

...

Although there is an argument about the origin of the song if it blongs to Armenians or Turks or Azeris, it is a beautiful  folk song.

 

 

To me, it is not belong to a nation but a part of earth called Anatolia on which Turks and Armenians had been peacefully lived together for centuries till...well,I am not going to complete the sentence not to cause an argument with you ...Anyway the main thing that I want to say is that,once I listened to the song from my Turkish friends of Azeri origin (they are from Kars province)  half in Turkish and half in Armenian, and you can´t imagine the feeling I got at the moment unless you listen to the song that way...

29.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 07:26 am

There is no need to create a racist controversy around a beautiful song. This song is an anonymous Anatolian song, sung in more than one Anatolian language...same music , but possibly with totally different lyrics.

 

The name of the song is said to be SARE GELIN  (not SARI GELIN) where sare is in Armenian and gelin is from Turkish. "Sare Gelin" means "the bride from the mountains".



Edited (9/29/2009) by AlphaF
Edited (9/29/2009) by AlphaF

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