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The English Join Kurdish Terrorists to fight Turkey
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11 Mar 2009 Wed 02:45 pm |
"The world would see they were not terrorists, but freedom fighters. Dialogue and peace would eventually solve the Kurdish question in Turkey. Their struggle for Kurdish rights was not about to be vaporised by a barrage of Turkish, or US, rockets."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/oct/25/turkey.iraq
Enjoy!
Oh Tami Tami Tami!
This is not media opinion!!! This is a quote from an interview - let me quote it propertly
"The PKK, at least the 2,000 or so who remain in northern Iraq, appear to be fast running out of options. "We have been misrepresented", said Abdul Rahaman Chaderchi, belying a frustration that they are referred to in the same breath as al-Qaida. "We are not terrorists. We share the same goals of democracy and human rights as the west," said Ms Ahmed. "We are fighting Turkish chauvinism and its long denial of basic rights to Kurds. We want to see a Turkey that can meet the criteria of joining the EU."
If you read in a newspaper, a quote from a an interview with an insane person that "all children must die" - do you assume that the whole country believe "all children must die"?!
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11 Mar 2009 Wed 02:47 pm |
Oh Tami Tami Tami!
This is not media opinion!!! This is a quote from an interview - let me quote it propertly
"The PKK, at least the 2,000 or so who remain in northern Iraq, appear to be fast running out of options. "We have been misrepresented", said Abdul Rahaman Chaderchi, belying a frustration that they are referred to in the same breath as al-Qaida. "We are not terrorists. We share the same goals of democracy and human rights as the west," said Ms Ahmed. "We are fighting Turkish chauvinism and its long denial of basic rights to Kurds. We want to see a Turkey that can meet the criteria of joining the EU."
If you read in a newspaper, a quote from a an interview with an insane person that "all children must die" - do you assume that the whole country believe "all children must die"?!
so you think we will buy this childish lie. it`s a fact that it`s published in that newspaper for pkk propaganda.
and can you tell me why they call the Irish freedom fighters terrorists while they call kurdish terrorists kurdish rebels?
Edited (3/11/2009) by tamikidakika
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11 Mar 2009 Wed 02:52 pm |
so you think we will buy this childish lie. it`s a fact that it`s published in that newspaper for pkk propaganda.
and can you tell me why they call the Irish freedom fighters terrorists while they call kurdish terrorists kurdish rebels?
Tami, just accept the simple fact that this was an interview - that is why the comments are written in quotation marks. It was the Kurdish THEMSELVES calling themselves freedom fighters.
It was NOT published in the newspaper for PKK propaganda - there are interviews with all people about any subject all over the world´s media. There are far far more interviews, films etc. about Irish being freedom fighters. It is a GOOD thing not to censor any subject di mi?
Edited (3/11/2009) by TheAenigma
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11 Mar 2009 Wed 02:55 pm |
Tami, just accept the simple fact that this was an interview - that is why the comments are written in quotation marks. It was the Kurdish THEMSELVES calling themselves freedom fighters.
It was NOT published in the newspaper for PKK propaganda - there are interviews with all people about any subject all over the world´s media. There are far far more interviews, films etc. about Irish being freedom fighters. It is a GOOD thing not to censor any subject di mi?
why don`t they publish interviews with al qaida praising their war against america? or hamas ?
it`s a bad thing to censor the struggle of al qaida heros, di mi?
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11 Mar 2009 Wed 03:02 pm |
why don`t they publish interviews with al qaida praising their war against america? or hamas ?
it`s a bad thing to censor the struggle of al qaida heros, di mi?
Actually THEY HAVE! There have been such interviews with Afghans....
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11 Mar 2009 Wed 03:07 pm |
Actually THEY HAVE! There have been such interviews with Afghans....
bring it up or keep quiet.
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11 Mar 2009 Wed 03:33 pm |
bring it up or keep quiet.
Here are two to keep you going - I am happy to find more if you wish
"Dr Mahammed Anif told Newsnight that the UK and US had wanted an "excuse" to invade Afghanistan, and foreign armies would be thrown out of the country.
Shadow defence secretary Liam Fox said the interview was "obscene" and accused the BBC of broadcasting propaganda on behalf of Britain´s enemies.
The BBC said it was "entirely legitimate" to air the Taleban´s views. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6086276.stm
"Yes. Our one demand of the British is for them to leave our land. We want this message to be conveyed to Tony Blair -- it´s easy to occupy Afghanistan, but it´s difficult to remain here for long. God willing, like the Russians before them, the Americans and British will fail." And with that he got to his feet, clicked his fingers and his men got ready to go.
After that initial meeting, things between me and the Taliban became a lot easier. Every time I met a Taliban commander, he would pass on my name to other Taliban commanders, who would then contact me to arrange another interview. I was soon fielding calls every day, and quickly discovered that my name had reached Taliban commanders in the town of Quetta across the border in Pakistan."
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/dispatches/meeting+the+taliban/158385
Edited (3/11/2009) by TheAenigma
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11 Mar 2009 Wed 03:35 pm |
Oh Tami Tami Tami!
This is not media opinion!!! This is a quote from an interview - let me quote it propertly
"The PKK, at least the 2,000 or so who remain in northern Iraq, appear to be fast running out of options. "We have been misrepresented", said Abdul Rahaman Chaderchi, belying a frustration that they are referred to in the same breath as al-Qaida. "We are not terrorists. We share the same goals of democracy and human rights as the west," said Ms Ahmed. "We are fighting Turkish chauvinism and its long denial of basic rights to Kurds. We want to see a Turkey that can meet the criteria of joining the EU."
If you read in a newspaper, a quote from a an interview with an insane person that "all children must die" - do you assume that the whole country believe "all children must die"?!
AE`s trick exposed!!!
the excerpt I posted was the opinion of the English guardian journalist Michael Howard, not of the guy who was interviewed.
posting it once again.
"Their leader is in prison and being poisoned, they claim, by his jailers. Their enemies are in uproar, almost unanimously baying for their blood. And Nato´s second largest war machine is just two valleys away, preparing for their annihilation. Yet as they sat down to a dinner of grilled chicken and salad yesterday, in a flat-roofed stone shack clinging to the side of a mountain, leaders of the Kurdistan Workers´ party (PKK) remained surprisingly buoyant.Here were some of Turkey´s most wanted, dressed in their trademark baggy khaki fatigues, each wearing a small lapel badge bearing the portrait of Abdullah Ocalan, their imprisoned leader. Their mountain redoubts would hold firm, the guerilla leaders insisted. The world would see they were not terrorists, but freedom fighters. Dialogue and peace would eventually solve the Kurdish question in Turkey. Their struggle for Kurdish rights was not about to be vaporised by a barrage of Turkish, or US, rockets."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/oct/25/turkey.iraq
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11 Mar 2009 Wed 03:39 pm |
so will you admit the fact that the English media call the Kurdish terrorists, "freedom fighters", AE?
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11 Mar 2009 Wed 03:40 pm |
so will you admit the fact that the English media call the Kurdish terrorists, "freedom fighters", AE?
No I dont...
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11 Mar 2009 Wed 03:42 pm |
You have not commented on this Tami - and I will be happy to reply to your other questions when I finish work
Here are two to keep you going - I am happy to find more if you wish
"Dr Mahammed Anif told Newsnight that the UK and US had wanted an "excuse" to invade Afghanistan, and foreign armies would be thrown out of the country.
Shadow defence secretary Liam Fox said the interview was "obscene" and accused the BBC of broadcasting propaganda on behalf of Britain´s enemies.
The BBC said it was "entirely legitimate" to air the Taleban´s views. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6086276.stm
"Yes. Our one demand of the British is for them to leave our land. We want this message to be conveyed to Tony Blair -- it´s easy to occupy Afghanistan, but it´s difficult to remain here for long. God willing, like the Russians before them, the Americans and British will fail." And with that he got to his feet, clicked his fingers and his men got ready to go.
After that initial meeting, things between me and the Taliban became a lot easier. Every time I met a Taliban commander, he would pass on my name to other Taliban commanders, who would then contact me to arrange another interview. I was soon fielding calls every day, and quickly discovered that my name had reached Taliban commanders in the town of Quetta across the border in Pakistan."
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/dispatches/meeting+the+taliban/158385
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