Hmm, I listened to this speech. Sounded like the Jimmy Carter administration...words and choices. That´s great..but I didn´t hear a solution...What did surprise me was his comment to the Muslim world about womens education..but then again he referred many times back to those countries allowing their government to run things as they felt suited for them. It was contradicting to me that if you continued to allow these governments to run things that were suited to them...then your limiting choices for people especially womens education. It´s interesting how he concentrated on the verbiage "choices", but as Americans we are seeing our choices little by little go right out the door.
Also, when he speaks of the Muslim world...what exactely does this mean? You don´t hear phrases like the Christian World, the Jewish World.
And lastly, why of all places did he pick Egypt to send this message?
There are reasons that Obama is the president Teas not you and what he did today is one of them lol
Actually, i dont know if you really dont know the answer to your questions or you just raising points for debates !
à mean, do you believe that is it a nature thing that countries interferes in each other internal affairs ?
For example if US doesnt like the educational system of UK for example, it should collect its troops and does something about it ?!
Or UK is an independent country has every right to does what it suits it regardless if US liked it or not ?!
Beside, US was/still trying to force its well over Afghanistan, so...women are wll educated now there ?!
And yes he speaks about the Muslim world and you dont hear anything about Christian World, and Jewish World because to some/many Christian world used to be/is the only world they acknowledge and think all people should fit into that!
Lastly,you´ve wondered why Egypt, although small google would have told you about it
Then to my fully surprise you have added why not Lebanon !
Lebanon not an Ãslamic country, so do you think its suitable to go to none Ãslamic country to address the Ãslamic world ?!
à would have understood if you said for example why not Ãndonesia ...but Lebanon?! ´with all my respect to Lebanon of course´
Why he picked Egypt ...
For many reasons actually
Mixture of many civilizations...´Coptic,Ãslamic,Arabic,and Modern civilization´
Al Azhar which is one of the oldest Uni of the whole world, actually its second Uni founded in 975
Cairo Uni which isthe first Uni at the Middle East.
Beside what actually matter is he wanted to effect the people of the Ãslamic and Arab world so what is better to do than to go to the biggest Arab country with the biggest Muslim population at the region which many of the muslims students of the Ãslamic world go to her to learn at its Uni ´Al Azhar´
Thats a first, second, the government is very much moderate actually -as they say is /was America´s ally- so he wont have a problem on that ground and all he will need to do is to win the people , and through that also he will win the people of the Ãslamic world
Egypt has a soft spot in most of Muslims people hearts, so talking to them from Egypt wont raise voices like why not from here or there.
But actually there i must agree with you about something....the speech was very nice and very sweet too
Sugar coated words.
à saw the speech, and i follow up the analysis about it at Tv´s programs, trying to figure out...and...so ...!
Ãf you come to the real facts, he didnt offer anything but words!
What he said there is not new, he didnt come up with planes or decision or something, as a matter of fact he didnt offered us anything, STÃLL he left Cairo a Winner !
This man knew exactly how to talk to The Muslims world, to the people themselves
He knew how to enter their minds, and even hearts too and they allow him ...even those who are sceptical, they cant do anything about it.
He know what buttons to press, he know how to make himself welcome in a world saw USA as an enemy from its own doing..Ãraq, Afghanistan, second Crausad..etc and many more the US goverment has said and did
Talking about human rights and having Guantánamo and Abu Gharib on hand !
So trust from the Ãslamic world...that you dont have !
He started by saying Selamu Aleykum...Peace be upon you ..its the Arabic muslim´s greeting.
He quoted from Kur´an Verses that no one can argue about and very much serve his goals
He offered his hand and he said we want to start over and have a peaceful world together at same time he reserved some issues that he said we all agree about Afghanistan for example ´ even we may/are not ! ´
He said i will start and set an example .
He said, and he said...etc
First, we are very hospital, its both tradition and base in our lives so we cant reject an offered hand even if we dont agree with some or many ...we must accept and try to work things out
And if you saw the reaction of the simple people, you would understand
He knew that, and played on it too.
So some how in few words, he throw the ball to us saying...i offer my hand and i want peace ....but yet clever enough he at same time offered nothing still in return but words and still people welcomed his offer... just because of his tone which is the next issue here.
Second, he talked with respect, he wasnt arrogant putting people who arent like him down as your late president and govenment used to do and got disrespect only in return and potential enemies
Obama´s attitudes forced peopele to be as good as he was if not better too, from the point of view that he wont be better than us
Third, USA who used to be the first enemy in some people´s opinion, the one they breach they must fight is no longer / or will be longer no.1 enemy.
USA used to be the enemy for the things it said and did, they say ´´look what Bush said ?! ´ He want to attack us and take our lands, he want to convert us ..he and he..etc ´´
Now those same people wont be able to say same about your system or your president, wont be able to leacture same things to the youngster without hearing this phrase ´ But Obama came to us and offered a new start based on respect, he said USA not in war with Ãslam and will never be, he said one should trat people like they wanted them to treat him, he said...etc´ and you will have debate in that level between those people about being number one enemy instead of having it as a fact .
Now they just wait and see, putting what he said into a test...he said he will be truthful, so will he ?!
Of course what he did, may not be appealing to some from both camps who get better benefits from the hatred between the US and the Ãslamic world
So changes - Ãf there will be - not going to be easy !
à heard Saudi saying when he has been asked what does he think about Obama´s speech , ´ he came and saying Salamu Aleykum, our religion ordering us if we have been greeted we reply with a better one, we are muslim and he doesnt know our religion better than us, he offered us his hand, we welcome it ´
So for those who understand the Muslism world will understand that Mr Obama has played it right
Serves the US interests very well...same goals but with different method with full understanding way to the people who he deals with !
The question is... will it also serve the Muslim world ?!
Hopfully !
but that we will have to wait and see!
One of our independent politicians ´Esmat El Sadat´ put it in a few words
´´Mr. Obama came, played, shot, and scored..thats it ! ´´
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