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1.       lessluv
1052 posts
 12 Jul 2009 Sun 03:06 pm

Sperm created in lab

Widespread coverage has been given to news of test tube sperm being grown in a laboratory. Many newspapers said the research raises hopes that “infertile men may one day be able to father their own biological children” (The Independent). Other newspapers discussed the ethical implications of the research, or asked if this was “the end of men?” (Daily Mirror).

This research is a long way from reaching a stage where sperm produced via this technique could be used to fertilise a human egg. Only a small number of sperm-like cells were produced, and this technique has so far used only stem cells from embryos, not cells from adult males. In addition, many experts have asked whether the sperm-like cells that were produced are actually functioning sperm. The researchers have responded by pointing out that the research was ´proof of principle´, and they will continue to develop this area of research.

The research is definitely a step forward in understanding reproductive biology and germ stem cell development, but it has limited immediate implications in the field of reproductive medicine and fertility treatment. Much more research into the medical, scientific and ethical issues surrounding this contentious issue is needed.

 

Full Document

 

Hmmmm Roll eyes

2.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 12 Jul 2009 Sun 09:44 pm

Hmmm ok, that sounds good but...who´s gonna open jars?!

3.       lessluv
1052 posts
 13 Jul 2009 Mon 12:36 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

Hmmm ok, that sounds good but...who´s gonna open jars?!

 

 

 

heh heh

4.       bydand
755 posts
 13 Jul 2009 Mon 01:00 am

And who´s going to get things done  instead of simply talking about it? Unsure



Edited (7/13/2009) by bydand

5.       lady in red
6947 posts
 13 Jul 2009 Mon 11:51 am

 

Quoting bydand

And who´s going to get things done  instead of simply talking about it? Unsure

 

Ermmm...??  The women as usual of course.  I´ve not met a man yet who can do something without days, weeks or even months of ´getting round to it´!  (except maybe in major emergency situations like getting the TV fixed in time for some important football/cricket/golf/whatever match! 

6.       alameda
3499 posts
 13 Jul 2009 Mon 08:47 pm

What a ridiculous proposition....a World Without Men...do I detect a little hostility here?

 

I´m shocked at the sexist comments here regarding males.  If the same things were being said about females, there would be an uproar!

 

"What´s good for the goose is good for the gander"

7.       lessluv
1052 posts
 13 Jul 2009 Mon 10:34 pm

 

Quoting alameda

What a ridiculous proposition....a World Without Men...do I detect a little hostility here?

 

I´m shocked at the sexist comments here regarding males.  If the same things were being said about females, there would be an uproar!

 

"What´s good for the goose is good for the gander"

 

 Not quite sure where you are finding hostility in a tongue in cheek title to a document that (if you choose to read the document) is about a break through in male fertillity problems.....omg how controvertial!!What the hell!

 

Seems the only hostility on this thread is coming from you.......apart from alpha´s threads do you actually like anything else?Roll eyes

 

 

8.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 13 Jul 2009 Mon 11:48 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

 

 

 Not quite sure where you are finding hostility in a tongue in cheek title to a document that (if you choose to read the document) is about a break through in male fertillity problems.....omg how controvertial!!What the hell!

 

Seems the only hostility on this thread is coming from you.......apart from alpha´s threads do you actually like anything else?Roll eyes

 

 

 

It´s a stoning for you missy! I will get you

 

 

9.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 14 Jul 2009 Tue 01:28 am

 

Quoting lessluv

 

 

 

 

heh heh

Ok, no more doubts

 

I think Alameda is the only one who took the "world without men" comment seriously. There´s a great Polish comedy folm called "Sexmission" (no, it´s not THAT kind of film so stop browsing p2p), it´s a comedy where 2 males get experimentally frozen and are to be defrosted in 3 years. Unfortunately due to a war it doesn´t happen until 50 years later. They wake up in a world without men and it´s just a prelude to 1.5hrs of continuous laughter

 

10.       alameda
3499 posts
 14 Jul 2009 Tue 06:49 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

Ok, no more doubts

 

I think Alameda is the only one who took the "world without men" comment seriously. There´s a great Polish comedy folm called "Sexmission" (no, it´s not THAT kind of film so stop browsing p2p), it´s a comedy where 2 males get experimentally frozen and are to be defrosted in 3 years. Unfortunately due to a war it doesn´t happen until 50 years later. They wake up in a world without men and it´s just a prelude to 1.5hrs of continuous laughter

 

 

 Given the fact that there are 24,281 registered members of this site....and only a handfull ever post, I´m inclined to believe the "humor" was most probably lost on more than just me.  Belittling whole groups of people is not a source of humor to me.

 

However, regarding the original post about alternative treatments for male infertility, there is some pretty provocative research going on now.....not funny IMHO...

 

The team at the Tottori University in Japan, say they implanted the human cells responsible for producing sperm - spermatogonia - into rat and mice testes in August 1998.

 

In recent years, grafting of immature testicular tissue into immundeficient mice has been introduced as a strategy to grow and differentiate immature testicular tissue up to the stage of fertile sperm (Honaramooz et al., 2002; Schlatt et al., 1999). Similarly successful was the generation of sperm from xenografts of immature testes from hamster, monkey, bull, pig and cat in mouse hosts (Schlatt et al., 2002a; Snedaker et al., 2004; Honaramooz et al., 2004; Oatley et al., 2005). Spermatogenesis in a xenograft might provide a model for the study of human spermatogenesis and could represent an alternative approach for fertility preservation in cancer patients.

 

Are you a man or a mouse?

A leading fertility expert plans to produce human sperm using mice.

Roger Short, of the Royal Women´s Hospital in Melbourne, Australia, hopes to transplant the germ cells that develop into sperm from human testes into a mouse.

11.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 14 Jul 2009 Tue 07:21 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

 Given the fact that there are 24,281 registered members of this site....and only a handfull ever post, I´m inclined to believe the "humor" was most probably lost on more than just me.  Belittling whole groups of people is not a source of humor to me.

 

However, regarding the original post about alternative treatments for male infertility, there is some pretty provocative research going on now.....not funny IMHO...

 

The team at the Tottori University in Japan, say they implanted the human cells responsible for producing sperm - spermatogonia - into rat and mice testes in August 1998.

 

In recent years, grafting of immature testicular tissue into immundeficient mice has been introduced as a strategy to grow and differentiate immature testicular tissue up to the stage of fertile sperm (Honaramooz et al., 2002; Schlatt et al., 1999). Similarly successful was the generation of sperm from xenografts of immature testes from hamster, monkey, bull, pig and cat in mouse hosts (Schlatt et al., 2002a; Snedaker et al., 2004; Honaramooz et al., 2004; Oatley et al., 2005). Spermatogenesis in a xenograft might provide a model for the study of human spermatogenesis and could represent an alternative approach for fertility preservation in cancer patients.

 

Are you a man or a mouse?

A leading fertility expert plans to produce human sperm using mice.

Roger Short, of the Royal Women´s Hospital in Melbourne, Australia, hopes to transplant the germ cells that develop into sperm from human testes into a mouse.

Alameda, why is it always those "absent" that serve you as an excuse? Ok, you didn´t find that joke funny - no problem about that, I´m sure so did half of the Great Absent while another half gave a smirk

 

Sperm in mice? Sounds science-fiction to me! But I´m sure infertile couples will greatly appreciate any successful treatmet there might be. I have a friend after hysterectomy (sp?), she had it before 30 and still, 4 years later she cannot get over the fact she won´t have any children. I´m sure couples who have trouble conceiving think alike.

 

12.       teaschip
3870 posts
 14 Jul 2009 Tue 07:44 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

 

 

 

 

heh heh

 

 Hey, I thought about buying this gadget..I pound it against the counter and take a towel and still can´t get those jars open at times.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

13.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 14 Jul 2009 Tue 08:59 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 

 

 Hey, I thought about buying this gadget..I pound it against the counter and take a towel and still can´t get those jars open at times.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 Save your money!  Just place a spoon under the rim of the lid, apply a little pressure to the handle and pop the seal.  Your jars will open easily.

14.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 14 Jul 2009 Tue 09:01 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

 Given the fact that there are 24,281 registered members of this site....and only a handfull ever post, I´m inclined to believe the "humor" was most probably lost on more than just me.  Belittling whole groups of people is not a source of humor to me.

 

However, regarding the original post about alternative treatments for male infertility, there is some pretty provocative research going on now.....not funny IMHO...

 

The team at the Tottori University in Japan, say they implanted the human cells responsible for producing sperm - spermatogonia - into rat and mice testes in August 1998.

 

In recent years, grafting of immature testicular tissue into immundeficient mice has been introduced as a strategy to grow and differentiate immature testicular tissue up to the stage of fertile sperm (Honaramooz et al., 2002; Schlatt et al., 1999). Similarly successful was the generation of sperm from xenografts of immature testes from hamster, monkey, bull, pig and cat in mouse hosts (Schlatt et al., 2002a; Snedaker et al., 2004; Honaramooz et al., 2004; Oatley et al., 2005). Spermatogenesis in a xenograft might provide a model for the study of human spermatogenesis and could represent an alternative approach for fertility preservation in cancer patients.

 

Are you a man or a mouse?

A leading fertility expert plans to produce human sperm using mice.

Roger Short, of the Royal Women´s Hospital in Melbourne, Australia, hopes to transplant the germ cells that develop into sperm from human testes into a mouse.

 

 What a sad little world you inhabit Sad

15.       alameda
3499 posts
 14 Jul 2009 Tue 09:02 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 

 

 Hey, I thought about buying this gadget..I pound it against the counter and take a towel and still can´t get those jars open at times.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 Actually the reviews on Amazon.com were not that great.  If I were you, I´d save my money. ...that´s what I´m going to do...or find a better alternative...

 

"It was discouraging to see that others had a similar experience to mine. The product worked fine a few times, but after only a few jars the inner clamp broke. (I then opened the jar by hand, so it wasn´t the jar´s fault!) This happened on both the one I used and the one I bought for my mother.

Good idea but wait for a new, improved model.One Touch Jar Opener "

16.       admin
758 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 07:02 am

 

Quoting teaschip

 

 

 Hey, I thought about buying this gadget..I pound it against the counter and take a towel and still can´t get those jars open at times.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

Metal part of the jar (the lid) expands and contracts more with temperature change compared to the glass body. A cold jar will be much harder to open because of the contracted lid. Warm the lid a little and it should open easily. Cheaper than getting a powered tool or keeping a husband as jar opener. Plus some guests may be impressed with your practical intelligence Confused

17.       bydand
755 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 10:39 am

 

Quoting admin

 

 

Metal part of the jar (the lid) expands and contracts more with temperature change compared to the glass body. A cold jar will be much harder to open because of the contracted lid. Warm the lid a little and it should open easily. Cheaper than getting a powered tool or keeping a husband as jar opener. Plus some guests may be impressed with your practical intelligence Confused

 

Trust a man to come up with a logical solution. Cool  A few seconds with the lid under the hot tap should do the trick or you could try your hairdryer. Big smile 



Edited (7/16/2009) by bydand

18.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 04:05 pm

I am with Elizabeth on the spoon method.

 

Works every time, and you dont need any hot water, so it still works if there is a water cut AND you don´t get wet when the water splashes off the jar lid and on to you.

19.       bydand
755 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 07:40 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

I am with Elizabeth on the spoon method.

 

Works every time, and you dont need any hot water, so it still works if there is a water cut AND you don´t get wet when the water splashes off the jar lid and on to you.

 

 And what happens when the spoon slips?  Unsure  Actually I think the vacuum inside the jar causes a suction effect which makes it difficult to open the first time.

20.       teaschip
3870 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 07:48 pm

What about bending my good spoon though?  Confused  Taking admins advice I think heating up a dish towel in the microwave would work.  I´ll try this technique and report back.Big smile

21.       bydand
755 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 11:28 pm

Bodes ill for women in a world without men if they can´t fight their way into a jar of pickles. Big smile

22.       alameda
3499 posts
 17 Jul 2009 Fri 01:27 am

Angel  One can only imagine what may follow that.....can´t we live in peace and harmony...or at least in the same world.  I for one would hate to see a world with one gender only. 

Quoting bydand

Bodes ill for women in a world without men if they can´t fight their way into a jar of pickles. Big smile

 

 

23.       lessluv
1052 posts
 17 Jul 2009 Fri 01:58 am

 

Quoting alameda

  I for one would hate to see a world with one gender only. 

 

 

 Scared

 How awful would that be

24.       CANLI
5084 posts
 17 Jul 2009 Fri 04:55 am

 

Quoting teaschip

 

 

 Hey, I thought about buying this gadget..I pound it against the counter and take a towel and still can´t get those jars open at times.

Quoting admin

 

 

Metal part of the jar (the lid) expands and contracts more with temperature change compared to the glass body. A cold jar will be much harder to open because of the contracted lid. Warm the lid a little and it should open easily. Cheaper than getting a powered tool or keeping a husband as jar opener. Plus some guests may be impressed with your practical intelligence Confused

 

 Yes but always remember to use a towel when you open it, it would be kind of hot and burn your hand a bit after you warm it.

But im not sure about using the heat in that case, i wonder what would the scientist say ?! Unsure

25.       CANLI
5084 posts
 17 Jul 2009 Fri 04:58 am

 

Quoting teaschip

What about bending my good spoon though?  Confused  Taking admins advice I think heating up a dish towel in the microwave would work.  I´ll try this technique and report back.Big smile

 

 Heating up a dish towel ?!

Normally wont work, needs to be more warmer than that to open the jar, but again i guess it depends on the jar after all ! Unsure

Again...we would need to ask the scientists



Edited (7/17/2009) by CANLI [why not ?! ;-) lol]

26.       alameda
3499 posts
 17 Jul 2009 Fri 05:29 am

 

Quoting lessluv

 

 Scared

 How awful would that be

 

A world of amoeba....?



Edited (7/17/2009) by alameda [remove link]

27.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 17 Jul 2009 Fri 04:40 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

What about bending my good spoon though?  Confused  Taking admins advice I think heating up a dish towel in the microwave would work.  I´ll try this technique and report back.Big smile

 

Teas if you have to exert so much pressure that you bend your spoon then you will want to proceed to step two:

Hold jar in hand, walk to trash bin, toss jar in trash, go to store and purchase new jar.  You aren´t EVER gonna get that sucker open!   <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

28.       lady in red
6947 posts
 17 Jul 2009 Fri 08:02 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

What about bending my good spoon though?  Confused  Taking admins advice I think heating up a dish towel in the microwave would work.  I´ll try this technique and report back.Big smile

 

This way looks easier - if you don´t have a ´Lord of the House´ around of course! (obviously doesn´t apply in Saudi Arabia lol )

29.       alameda
3499 posts
 17 Jul 2009 Fri 08:52 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 

 

This way looks easier - if you don´t have a ´Lord of the House´ around of course! (obviously doesn´t apply in Saudi Arabia lol )

 

 I think that would help in getting a good grip, but in the case of the actual contraction and expansion of the metal/glass it would not help.  Now if you used this solution in conjunction with heating the top, it seems pretty unbeatable.

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