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Lockerbie Bomber goes free
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10.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 12:51 am

Quoting bydand

With the political interference and the stories of evidence withheld and evidence planted I doubt if we will ever find out the truth about the Lockerbie bombing. Also the revenge theory linked to the Iranian airliner blown out of the sky by an American missile 5 months earlier over the Persian Gulf with the loss of 290 lives including 66 children. Many people believe Megrahi was a scapegoat to appease bereaved relatives.

 

Hmmmmm....I was wondering how long it would be before someone floated a conspiracy theory.  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

11.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 01:08 am

 

Quoting bydand

With the political interference and the stories of evidence withheld and evidence planted I doubt if we will ever find out the truth about the Lockerbie bombing. Also the revenge theory linked to the Iranian airliner blown out of the sky by an American missile 5 months earlier over the Persian Gulf with the loss of 290 lives including 66 children. Many people believe Megrahi was a scapegoat to appease bereaved relatives.

 

I agree with you for the first time bydand..

The conviction of this guy was always a bit suspicious..

And he is still maintaining his innocence!!!

Robert Fisk is one of the best middle east correspondents  of our time..

That is what he wrote about it in 2001 

And also I remember in his book of  ´The clash of civilizations´, he was mentioning that just after the incident, one of palestinian groups in Beirut was accepting the congratulations.

And also an interesting cartoon from theindependent as well:



Edited (8/23/2009) by thehandsom
Edited (8/23/2009) by thehandsom

12.       bydand
755 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 01:11 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

Hmmmmm....I was wondering how long it would be before someone floated a conspiracy theory.  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 So you can laugh at the loss of 290 lives including 66 children GG.You crazy? So much for American compassion. Incidently the commander who fired the missile was decorated for outstanding service 2 years later.

 

13.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 01:53 am

 

Quoting bydand

 

 So you can laugh at the loss of 290 lives including 66 children GG.You crazy? So much for American compassion. Incidently the commander who fired the missile was decorated for outstanding service 2 years later.

 

 

 I clearly was not laughing at the loss of life!  If you bothered to read what I posted earlier you would see that.  Why don´t you get a grip on yourself.  You crazy?

 

What I was laughing at is people who toss out conspiracy theories left and right.  If that´s an issue for you then discuss that, don´t try to paint me as something I am not.

14.       bydand
755 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 09:07 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 

What I was laughing at is people who toss out conspiracy theories left and right.  If that´s an issue for you then discuss that, don´t try to paint me as something I am not.

 

I was merely pointing out events leading up to the bombing and the investigation afterwards. The crash site covered a huge area and it took a long time to gather evidence, plenty of scope for interference.

15.       libralady
5152 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 12:22 pm

 

Quoting bydand

With the political interference and the stories of evidence withheld and evidence planted I doubt if we will ever find out the truth about the Lockerbie bombing. Also the revenge theory linked to the Iranian airliner blown out of the sky by an American missile 5 months earlier over the Persian Gulf with the loss of 290 lives including 66 children. Many people believe Megrahi was a scapegoat to appease bereaved relatives.

 

 Actually until I saw the news last night I did not realise he was convicted on such scant evidence - some clothes bought in a Maltese shop found at the crash site and the owner of the shop identified him from a magazine.  That was it!  So he is probably a scapegoat.

 

What ever, the case has re-opened old wounds, caused a great deal of anger amongst grieving relatives and no doubt will affect relationships between US and Libya.

16.       bydand
755 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 02:26 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

My thoughts are with the families of the victims today.  This man served what....8 years for murdering their children, spouses, siblings?   And he gets compassion?  No way

There isn´t much more to say.  It sickens me. 

 I am sorry to keep on about this GG  but you say you are sickened by the release of a sick man who may or may not be guilty of planting this bomb. On the other side of the coin we have  the downing of the Iranian airliner with the loss of 224 plus 66 children and the perpetrator gets a Legion of Merit medal. Something wrong somewhere.

17.       _AE_
677 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 02:52 am

 

Quoting bydand

 

 I am sorry to keep on about this GG  but you say you are sickened by the release of a sick man who may or may not be guilty of planting this bomb. On the other side of the coin we have  the downing of the Iranian airliner with the loss of 224 plus 66 children and the perpetrator gets a Legion of Merit medal. Something wrong somewhere.

 

 Thank goodness you mentioned the shooting down of the Iranian civilian airliner, Bydand.  I was beginning to think I was going crazy - there has been no mention of it in the media, despite repeated mentions of the numbers killed in the Lockerbie bombing.   Anyone who thinks that the west is not a victim of propaganda, should finally be convinced.

 

Even families of the Lockerbie victims are sceptical that Al Megrahi is guilty of the bombing.  The West likes to please the punters and be seen to be doing "justice".  For further clarification please refer to "we are going Iraq and Afghanistan to get revenge for 9/11 even though this action has nothing whatsoever to do with the attack"

18.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 07:28 pm

 

This is an interesting article about the topic from Robert Fisk:

 

For the truth, look to Tehran and Damascus  not Tripoli

 

..

Megrahi´s lawyers had delved deeply into his case  which rested on the word of a Maltese tailor who had already seen a picture of Megrahi (unrevealed to us at the time) so he could identify him in court ´and uncovered some remarkable evidence from the German police.

 

Given the viciousness of their Third Reich predecessors, I´ve never had a lot of time for German cops, but on this occasion they went a long way towards establishing that a Lebanese who had been killed in the Lockerbie bombing was steered to Frankfurt airport by known Lebanese militants and the bag that contained the bomb was actually put on to the baggage carousel for checking in by this passenger´s Lebanese handler, who had taken him to the airport, and had looked after him in Germany before the flight.

 

I have read all the interviews which the German police conducted with their suspects. They are devastating. There clearly was a Lebanese connection. And there probably was a Palestinian connection. How can I forget a press conference in Beirut held by the head of the pro-Syrian "Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine" (they were known, then, as the "Lockerbie boys") in which their leader, Ahmed Jibril, suddenly blurted out: "I´m not responsible for the Lockerbie bombing. They are trying to get me with a kangaroo court."

.....

But the moment Syria sent its tanks to defend Saudi Arabia after Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1990, all the MI6 truth-telling turned into a claptrap of nonsense about Col Gaddafi. And Gaddafi, let´s face it, was in deep trouble. Libya almost certainly was responsible for the earlier bombing of French UTA flight 772 over Chad in 1989. Why not frame him with Lockerbie too?

 

.....

I suspect that the truth (speak it not, Mr Miliband, for you do not wish to know) lies in Lebanon, in Damascus and in Tehran. Given your cosy new relationship with the last two cities, of course, there´s not a whimper of a chance that you´ll want to investigate this, Mr Foreign Secretary. And not much encouragement will "Mad Dog" Gaddafi give to such an undertaking, not after the gifts  oil deals, primarily, but let´s not forget the new Marks & Spencer in Tripoli  which he has given us.

 

Full article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/.....us-ndash-not-tripoli-1775813.html

 



Edited (8/23/2009) by thehandsom

19.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 08:05 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

Robert Fisk is one of the best middle east correspondents  of our time..

 

+100000000000000000

20.       _AE_
677 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 12:56 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Robert Fisk is one of the best middle east correspondents  of our time..

 

 And, thehandsom is one of the best Turkish correspondents of our time... in fact, of ANY time .....

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