this one comes from the leaflet of bnp

Basically the bottom line is racist people and racist ideologies  scare people with something.

You have to "have an enemy"..

That is the common dominator among racists..

This happens to be Turks, islam  and imigration for racists of Ireland...

In Turkey the racist propaganda is about the wicked evil west (and sometimes the entire world against Turkey) for example.

A BNP racist is not a worse racist because of he happens to be British comparing to a Turkish racist or an American racist.

I am sure their level of understanding the world is the same..So as their IQ in general..

Tami, read about why the invasion started - it has nothing to do with religion but money and influence. Are you really that ignorant you don´t want to acknowledge that?

Wars between Christians? What about Serbia? And what about the evil Nazi Christian Europe supporting the hatered Bosnian Muslims? What about the World Wars? nazi Christians attacking other Nazi Christians? Must have been for difference of Bible translations

Tami, it´s 21st century and the world is about money. Not religion. That plays little part in any western country´s foreign policy. But, apparently, it´s the only way you can believe you have an idea about politics. You want to explain everything with religion and it´s not working. Sure, there are people who hate other people for religious reasons. But no western country (all of which grant religious freedom) is at war with another country for religious reasons.

But of course you´ll still believe otherwise

That´s why Tami got so easily agitated

show us a Turkish racist party then which declares that they will use the Turkish troops to save us from the abuse of Kurds on our streets.

yea yea, the war was based on the imaginary destruction weapons of Saddam, right? but when it became apparent that it was just a christian lie by america, they started to say they were to bring democracy to iraq. and now this? we don`t take these lies anymore. the christians invaded iraq because the christians wanted that. and guess what, if you`re a political party and you want to get votes, you have to do what the people want. people wanted america to kill muslims and the american govt. did so to get votes. if you`re still saying it was for money show us how america benefited from the invasion financially. I have to remind you that the oil price has gone up after the invasion.

as for the wars, I was talking about the present time. If that was not the case I could point out the christian crusades too.

What Turkish racists say about Kurds or the Armenians can beat many of the racists in EU countries...

And more over, you would be surprised to see the level of normality they will show..

They will call it nationalism for example..

Racism is not only whites to blacks, western to eastern in EU only..

In Turkey all the racists are against the west for example..In the end racism is  the idea of "us and them"

Us can be muslims against Christians. Us happened to be ´Christians against Turks and Muslims" in BNP and Irish case.

They way they see the world and the ´others´ is the same..

Scratch a BNP guy who hates muslims, you will find a very similar guy who hates Christians or anything western in Turkey..

They are exactly the same!!

either do that

or shut up

And here we go again, Tami´s ridiculous theory of Christian coalition...So, you think that one day, Christians gathered round a table and thought - "hey! Let´s invade a Muslim country. Any country will do really. Let´s do it because they´re not Christians!" And then they decide to force a few Muslims on flying course to killl a few thousand American citizens to have an excuse. Later, they declare war on terrorism, enter Iraq and convert Muslims into Christianity. Right. We all saw it happen.

The US never wanted to have more influence in the Middle East, never wanted to pass contracts on oil. Never wanted to strategically take the attention off Israel. No! They were just about religion. A nation granting freedom of faith within its own borders suddenly feels the need to give a smack to Muslims living a few thousands kilometres away. What logic!

I´ll repeat myself again:

1. Tami says bad things about DD

2. DD hits Tami with a baseball bat

3. Tami accuses DD of attacking him on the grounds of religious hatered as:

a) although DD is an atheist she was born in Europe and if she was born in Europe she is Christian

b) Tami is an Alevi

c) logically DD´s attack was for religious reasons

See - that´s your reasoning. So, if somebody steals your car - it´s because of your religion, right? I´m not sure you´ve heard about other places on Earth that the US invaded or forced to follow its policy by means of murder, blackmail or whatever. Google for American crimes and you´ll see it´s not only Muslims they´ve been at war with.

Besides, even the fact that evil west supports Israel clearly shows how little influence religion has on politics - after all, weren´t Jews the ones who murdered Christian God?

You´re trying to stir up controversy by means of simplification, lack of common sense and knowledge. It´s kind of childish and tedious

right, just because all the countries that invaded Iraq are christian, it doesn`t mean anything. it`s just a coincidence.

if six muslim countries get together, invade a christian country, kill hundreds of thousands of christians

that`s called a muslim invasion and a christian genocide

if six christian countries get together, invade a muslim country, kill hundreds o thousands of muslims.

that`s called a coincidence

yea yea, you`re definitely right, they also forced those muslims to put a few tons of nano-thermites in the building for an unknown reason, although just the jet fuel would have been enough to demolish destroy that building.

Geez..

See ..You have no idea about your own country!! And because your knowledge is so limited, when someone is coming and slapping you with what you do NOT know is making you easily agitated..

Look..Go and check..just a few years ago our racists were trying to persuade the people kurds needed population control in the middle of big cities..

Go and check what words you and your friends use for armenians..Go and check the similarities of use the words ´paki´ and ´kro´..

The racists of the UK and the Ireland are basing their racism about the foreign culture/foreign people etc not about their own people as ours do in Turkey..