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Famous fish restaurant on Bosphorus implements alcohol ban
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1.       Trudy
7887 posts
 04 Oct 2009 Sun 10:17 am

Famous fish restaurant on Bosphorus implements alcohol ban

After nearly two decades of undisturbed alcohol consumption, a high-society fish restaurant on the Asian side of Istanbul, owned by the AKP-run municipality, suddenly decides to stop selling adult beverages. The municipality claims local residents submitted a petition requesting that the restaurant stop serving alcohol, but people on the street say otherwise.

 

Another restaurant in a Justice and Development Party, or AKP-run municipality stopped serving alcohol at the end of last month. Beytaþ Beykoz Balýkçýsý, a famous fish restaurant owned by the Beykoz Municipality, sits on the Bosphorus shore on Istanbul’s Anatolian side. It had served alcoholic beverages for the past 18 years, the daily Milliyet reported. Former Beykoz Mayor Muharrem Ergül, an AKP member, left the alcohol service in place, but the district’s new AKP mayor, Yücel Çelikbilek, has changed that tradition. “Even before he was elected, Çelikbilek was saying that he would put an end to alcohol,” said a 57-year-old retired bank officer in Beykoz, resting in a park near the restaurant. Born and raised in Beykoz, he opposes the ban.

 

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This type of things I will never understand. Why force one´s own believes on to others? No-one says this mayor or others must drink alcohol, why do they tell others they can´t? Let it be a personal choice!

2.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 04 Oct 2009 Sun 11:08 am

 

Quoting Trudy

This type of things I will never understand. Why force one´s own believes on to others? No-one says this mayor or others must drink alcohol, why do they tell others they can´t? Let it be a personal choice!

Not really, your friends in TARAF feel sherbet goes better with fish than raki....politicians follow their expert opinion.Alcoholics

 

3.       _AE_
677 posts
 04 Oct 2009 Sun 12:32 pm

I guess it´s the owner´s decision - they can do what they want.  They must know they will lose some customers - and maybe gain a few.  I am sure there are plenty of other restaurants selling alcohol to accommodate everyone

 

People´s drinking habits have changed a lot in recent years.  I love drinking wines with food, but have walked out of restaurants twice recently because of other customers who were knocking back spirits, getting extremely drunk, loud, abusive and embarassing other customers and probably not even noticing what the food was like on their plates.   On the second occasion I walked out,  five other parties on nearby tables also walked out midway through their meals.  It can´t be good for business



Edited (10/4/2009) by _AE_

4.       mltm
3690 posts
 04 Oct 2009 Sun 01:15 pm

It may be because the restaurents should pay a high tax to sell alcohol, and then it reflects to all the menu prices  and they lose clients.

5.       _AE_
677 posts
 04 Oct 2009 Sun 01:22 pm

My favourite restaurant has no license for alcohol but you can take your own wine.  It is a little seafood restaurant in a beautiful little cove near to where I live and was a local´s secret until a big national newspaper wrote a feature about it - now you have to book months in advance and the place is full of rich and famous.  Grrrrrrrr

6.       mltm
3690 posts
 04 Oct 2009 Sun 01:32 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

My favourite restaurant has no license for alcohol but you can take your own wine.  It is a little seafood restaurant in a beautiful little cove near to where I live and was a local´s secret until a big national newspaper wrote a feature about it - now you have to book months in advance and the place is full of rich and famous.  Grrrrrrrr

 

And what does it have to do with the subject? lol

This summer in Istanbul the restaurent without alcohol licence agreed to serve my father red wine in the form of  "cherry juice" in a fruit juice glass. It was all done in a very secret manner, the word "wine" was never mentioned openly, just in whispers, and we never saw the bottle. Otherwise they nsaid they would have to pay a high fine.



Edited (10/4/2009) by mltm
Edited (10/4/2009) by mltm

7.       _AE_
677 posts
 04 Oct 2009 Sun 01:34 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

 

And what does it have to do with the subject? lol

This summer in Istanbul the restaurent without alcohol licence agreed to serve my father red wine in the form of  "cherry juice" in a fruit juice glass.

 

 Offffffff!  It WAS to do with the subject!!!! It is about restaurants who do not serve alcohol and pointing out that it is not always about forcing their views/religion on others!!! Head bang

8.       mltm
3690 posts
 04 Oct 2009 Sun 01:37 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 Offffffff!  It WAS to do with the subject!!!! It is about restaurants who do not serve alcohol and pointing out that it is not always about forcing their views/religion on others!!! Head bang

 

Heh ok, I agree. The point was lost later when you started telling about how sad you were and all. Neutral



Edited (10/4/2009) by mltm

9.       _AE_
677 posts
 04 Oct 2009 Sun 01:39 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

 

Heh ok, I agree. The point was lost later when you started telling about how sad you were and all. Neutral

 

 

And what does THIS have to do with the subject? lol

10.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 02:20 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Famous fish restaurant on Bosphorus implements alcohol ban

After nearly two decades of undisturbed alcohol consumption, a high-society fish restaurant on the Asian side of Istanbul, owned by the AKP-run municipality, suddenly decides to stop selling adult beverages. The municipality claims local residents submitted a petition requesting that the restaurant stop serving alcohol, but people on the street say otherwise.

 

Another restaurant in a Justice and Development Party, or AKP-run municipality stopped serving alcohol at the end of last month. Beytaþ Beykoz Balýkçýsý, a famous fish restaurant owned by the Beykoz Municipality, sits on the Bosphorus shore on Istanbul’s Anatolian side. It had served alcoholic beverages for the past 18 years, the daily Milliyet reported. Former Beykoz Mayor Muharrem Ergül, an AKP member, left the alcohol service in place, but the district’s new AKP mayor, Yücel Çelikbilek, has changed that tradition. “Even before he was elected, Çelikbilek was saying that he would put an end to alcohol,” said a 57-year-old retired bank officer in Beykoz, resting in a park near the restaurant. Born and raised in Beykoz, he opposes the ban.

 

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This type of things I will never understand. Why force one´s own believes on to others? No-one says this mayor or others must drink alcohol, why do they tell others they can´t? Let it be a personal choice!

 

A huge Oha!!

That is Beykoz and there will always be fish and raki there!!!

ps..I would be quite happy if anybody can show any support from daily Taraf which happens to be the only paper telling the truth to Turkish people, for those type of decision..

 

11.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 02:24 pm

Prohibition Era begins again? Unsure

12.       lemon
1374 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 03:19 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

Prohibition Era begins again? Unsure

 

If I had a power I would ban everything, including kissing in public.

13.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 03:42 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

If I had a power I would ban everything, including kissing in public.

 

 If you dare...try!

14.       elenagabriela
2040 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 05:29 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

 

 

 If you dare...try!

 

oh, nooo, why?

15.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 05:32 pm

 

Quoting elenagabriela

 

 

oh, nooo, why?

 

Because we Turks love kissing in public.. 

It is the ultimate  show of affection.. If you your bf has not kissed you in public, you should get worried.. 

16.       _AE_
677 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 05:33 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

If I had a power I would ban everything, including kissing in public.

 

 Still sucking lemons, Lemon?

17.       elenagabriela
2040 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 05:34 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Because we Turks love kissing in public.. 

It is the ultimate  show of affection.. If you your bf has not kissed you in public, you should get worried.. 

 

i like too, lol; when I am in love nothing doesnt matter; is it wrong, isnt it

18.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 05:36 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

People´s drinking habits have changed a lot in recent years.  I love drinking wines with food, but have walked out of restaurants twice recently because of other customers who were knocking back spirits, getting extremely drunk, loud, abusive and embarassing other customers and probably not even noticing what the food was like on their plates.   On the second occasion I walked out,  five other parties on nearby tables also walked out midway through their meals.  It can´t be good for business

 I have told you a THOUSAND times!  I´M SORRY!  Why do you have to bring this up in Forum!!

 

19.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 05:37 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Because we Turks love kissing in public.. 

It is the ultimate  show of affection.. If you your bf has not kissed you in public, you should get worried.. 

 

 This is soooooooooo not true! 

20.       _AE_
677 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 05:37 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 I have told you a THOUSAND times!  I´M SORRY!  Why do you have to bring this up in Forum!!

 

 

 I will NEVER forgive you No way

21.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 05:42 pm

 

Quoting elenagabriela

 

 

i like too, lol; when I am in love nothing doesnt matter; is it wrong, isnt it

 

Well Elena, thanks for the info!!

I am the same. In fact, I like  showing my affection in public without any limits (and that was the reason why I was called naturalist a few times, I think..   ).. lol



Edited (10/5/2009) by thehandsom

22.       _AE_
677 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 05:45 pm

 

Quoting elenagabriela

 

 

i like too, lol; when I am in love nothing doesnt matter; is it wrong, isnt it

 

 It depends on the DEGREE of affection.  Frankly the sight of couples with their tongue down eachothers throats, blocking doorways when you are in a rush, is enough to make me shout "oh get a room" lol

 

Fine for teenagers who can´t "get a room", a bit sick making when older people do it! lol



Edited (10/5/2009) by _AE_

23.       elenagabriela
2040 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 05:45 pm

yes, it is normal for human beings

24.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 05:48 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 It depends on the DEGREE of affection.  Frankly the sight of couples with their tongue down eachothers throats, blocking doorways when you are in a rush, is enough to make me shout "oh get a room" lol

 

Fine for teenagers who can´t "get a room", a bit sick making when older people do it! lol

 Yes, and I will NEVER forgive YOU for this!!No way

 

25.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 05:48 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Well Elena, thanks for the info!!

I am the same. In fact, I like  showing my affection in public without any limits (and that was the reason why I was called naturalist a few times, I think..   ).. lol

 

 Do you mean naturalist or nudist?

26.       _AE_
677 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 05:50 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 Yes, and I will NEVER forgive YOU for this!!No way

 

 

 Sorry

It was "the moment" ...

27.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 05:53 pm

 

Quoting elenagabriela

yes, it is normal for human beings

 

Totally agree with what you are saying  but sometimes you can not explain this to people who simply are jealous of seeing others ´showing affection to each other in public´.. 

You know..I am sure, if you follow those people, you will find that they are jealous about any of the affection really..they would be throwing stones to mating pigeons , hating to see pandas  showing affection etc.. I am sure of that

 



Edited (10/5/2009) by thehandsom

28.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 05:54 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 Sorry

It was "the moment" ...

 

 Next time please don´t block the entrance to the bathroom!  You know I was drinking heavily!

29.       elenagabriela
2040 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 05:56 pm

yes, indeed, but we cant do anything agains our feelings, because sometimes the heart is above the mind; I told myself anytimes: use your mind, but it doesnt works when we want, my idea

30.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 06:04 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Totally agree with what you are saying  but sometimes you can not explain this to people who simply are jealous of seeing others ´showing affection to each other in public´..

You know..I am sure, if you follow those people, you will find that they are jealous about any of the affection really..they would be throwing stones to mating pigeons , hating to see pandas  showing affection etc.. I am sure of that

 

 

 You cant do anthing you want on the street you have to behave decent.



Edited (10/5/2009) by ReyhanL

31.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 06:10 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

 

 

 You cant do anthing you want on the street you have to behave decent.

 

Here comes a jealous person!!!

 

32.       mltm
3690 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 06:13 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Totally agree with what you are saying  but sometimes you can not explain this to people who simply are jealous of seeing others ´showing affection to each other in public´.. 

You know..I am sure, if you follow those people, you will find that they are jealous about any of the affection really..they would be throwing stones to mating pigeons , hating to see pandas  showing affection etc.. I am sure of that

 

But you have to respect the ones that are single and cannot have anyone to do these! It´s not good to make others envy... Right?

 

33.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 06:14 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Here comes a jealous person!!!

 

 

 Dont think so..of course if you want all to look at you like at circus than you can do whatever you want

34.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 06:18 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

But you have to respect the ones that are single and cannot have anyone to do these! It´s not good to make others envy... Right?

 

What is it that you want to do, but can not do?.....Why cant you kiss?

 

35.       libralady
5152 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 06:40 pm

I have deleted one post, and I suggest that the tone of this thread is somewhat improved or others will also be deleted.

 

The rest have now also been deleted.  This sort of behaviour is disgusting, so let that be the end of it.



Edited (10/5/2009) by libralady

36.       MrX67
2540 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 06:43 pm

i believe AKP managers and organizations feeling a social responsiblity with their goods&bads,for creating a new Turkey,with the new high values.And they trying a new explain for the freedoms,time will show if they can success or not...

37.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 06:44 pm

While im in Turkey i know im foreign and im waman . I dont want anybody to guess im not turkish. I dont to make others looking at me. If you show affection in public and then something happens to you to whom will believe the police? So i dont recomand to anyone to do this unless she has a permanent bodyguard!

38.       MrX67
2540 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 06:46 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

While im in Turkey i know im foreign and im waman . I dont want anybody to guess im not turkish. I dont to make others looking at me. If you show affection in public and then something happens to you to whom will believe the police? So i dont recomand to anyone to do this unless she has a permanent bodyguard!

 

 we Turks not alliens,sure there are good and bad mannered peoeple in Turkey to as on everywhere...To be ethical is never a nationality matter,thats only a personality matter...And i believe our people have very high values for to be a good sample to all nations,just some of us never aware of that...



Edited (10/5/2009) by MrX67
Edited (10/5/2009) by MrX67

39.       libralady
5152 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 06:50 pm

Change the tone otherwise I will just keep deleting.  This is disgusting behaviour from adults.

40.       elenagabriela
2040 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 06:51 pm

 

Quoting MrX67

 

 

 we Turks not alliens,sure there are good and bad mannered peoeple in Turkey to as on everywhere...To be ethical is never a nationality matter,thats only a personality matter...And i believe our people have very high values for to be a good sample to all nations,just some of us never aware of that...

 

...how romantic....., pls sorry

41.       MrX67
2540 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 06:52 pm

 

Quoting elenagabriela

 

 

...how romantic....., pls sorry

 

 ???

42.       libralady
5152 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 06:54 pm

This thread is now locked due some very personal exchanges.

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