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BARNABAS BIBLE
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10.       TheAenigma
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 14 Nov 2009 Sat 12:05 am

And one final word  The Sinaitic Syriac Codex used by the vatican DOES include Barnabas and his "unknown apostle"

 

So in answer to your question, yes the Vatican are following that, but whether ANY of it is true or not is another story! {#emotions_dlg.super_cool}



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11.       catwoman
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 14 Nov 2009 Sat 12:19 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

So in answer to your question, yes the Vatican are following that, but whether ANY of it is true or not is another story! {#emotions_dlg.super_cool}

 

You will have an eternity in hell to prove it! {#emotions_dlg.satisfied_nod}

12.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 14 Nov 2009 Sat 01:53 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

I have read all your religious books and really do not think I am risking "hell" by not following any of them, as, in my opinion, I am no better or worse than 99% of the rest of the population!  Also, as none of you can agree on which of your "man made" books is the true one, how do you know YOU will see your "heaven/paradise" ?

 

Stick with me kid !..... I am perfect !   {#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

13.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 14 Nov 2009 Sat 02:21 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 What exactly are you calling "the real thing"? lol

Real?  Firstly, lets just clarify - you are talking about the New Testament.  If we believe that Jesus existed at all, whether he was a "son of God", so-called prophet, or a very clever orator, this was written some 100-300 years AFTER Jesus died.  It cannot be taken as a quoted, word for word, account of what Jesus said.  They are "accounts" of what happened, in the opinion of the writer, hundreds of years after events took place.  I believe if any of us tried to remember what you said in 300 years time, we may make some mistakes   (frankly if I tried to remember what you said in 3 mins time I would have a problem) ...

 

Or...all versions are fairy stories, so what does it matter?

 

Secondly, the quality of the Vatican copy - very very dubious!!! There are no original manuscripts surviving.  The Vatican´s most complete manuscripts (Vatican MS. No. 1209 and the Sinaitic Syriac Codex) are dated 300 AD.  The originals were either carelessly lost or never existed.  If they did exist, what is followed now are copies of copies of copies of the "original"

 

Jesus himself never said his Mother conceived him from God himself. He was a messenger of God, a prophet and a mortal man. That is what Quran says.

 

Bible was first written in Hebrew; a language in which terms like "son of the desert", "son of the wind" etc. are commonly used and Jesus may have been referred as "son of god", in that totally symbolic sense.

 

Hebrew version was probably translated into Greek first. Greeks must have had no problem identifying with the idea of "son of god" because all their own gods lived on Mt.Olympos at the time - with their wives and kids.

 

Greeks took the translation literally, and that is exactly how the story spread around.

 

 

PS; I too have my doubts about the version of Bible Vatican is promoting. Their copy does not mention imminent arrival of Muhammad....can you believe that?



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Edited (11/14/2009) by AlphaF

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