Manchester United bows to Besiktas JK in Manchester : 0 - 1

 Good for the gymnastics club that they won

 Oh I´m sure us united fans will be crying buckets over that loss when we´re lifting the cup in May muhahaha.  The b/f is a Beşiktaş fan, and I´m awaiting a gloating txt, much like the one I got on the weekend when they won Fenerbaçhe (another team I support), hmm begining to think I might be a bad luck supporter to my teams lately, they´re all losing

 I don´t think Manchester Utd. played there best team but well done Beşiktaş, also they had a good win at the weekend over Fenerbahçe.

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I am proud of result as a supporter of Beşiktaş

Cheers !!!

 Man U played their baby team tonight, still though, am annoyed they lost

It was a boring match, actually all matches of Bjk are boring ...

 bence de haha

it is very clear that you don´t get from watching match

Just look at the league as you can see they are one of the less-scoring team. All matches they won 1-0, they are kind of counter-attack team. They defend with 10 players and their players are standard not so qualified, i think it is one of their tradition...

Anyway congrats to Bjk ...

This is a poor loser´s talk, bydand !

It would have made no difference, had Alex Ferguson played himself.

More loser´s talk,

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={48C41513-A376-4D1F-981D-660FC5BB193E}&newsid=6620082

It was an official Champions League match. I don´t think SAF targeted a loss. On the contrary, he was depending on the appetite of his young squad. This is a common method for seasoned British trainers. There are multiple benefits: you avoid injuries of your important players, give them a chance to rest, avoid red or yellow cards and get around with the feeling of satisfaction. For young players, it is a great chance for displaying their skills. In the past, this scheme has almost always worked.

As for yesterday´s match. no one can say, there was a lack of skill or determination. These young guys fought relentlessly till the end. It seems they have a lot quality too. Besiktas was a good example for them for understanding in what departments they have short comings. There are things that can only be learned in a real match.

 Uh huh, and you are telling me things I already know why?   As I said Ferguson played his baby team, which he did, some new and some inexperienced players, firstly to give them experience and secondly to keep top players safe from injury and bookings and to rest them (or vice versa!).  I never implied he went out to lose, I dont think any team sets out to lose any match!!  And I also think a lot of the players played well, and a lot of them showed great potential, they just lack experience. 

I´ve been a supporter of united all my life, as is my son, and just cause I´m a girl doesn´t mean I don´t know anytin bout it haha

Btw I was also expecting/hoping for an extra time screamer that united are so good at delivering haha

 Hahaha the old "young team" excuse eh?  The fact is that your team LOST and Alex Ferguson and was wrong to make such a decision when all europe was watching  It is disgusting that a team with all the money of Man U cannot perform and play their best team on ALL occasions.  Well done to Besiktas !

 What excuse???!!! Did I make an excuse??!!, I said they were a young team, which thay were, I didn´t use it as an excuse, just stating a fact.  I don´t think he was wrong, the young players need experience playing at this level and of course he´s going to keep the top players safe from injury etc.  Yep we lost, and I´m unhappy about that, but emm we´r through so.... and out of 5 games united have won 3 times, drawn once and lost once, Beşiktaş have won once, drawn once and lost a grand total of 3 times!..... ooh and where is Liverpool haha

  a hint of British (or Irish) sarcasm!!!!!!!!!!!

What is wrong is the lack of grace displayed by MU here...,worst losers are those without grace....It looks cheap anywhere.

dooru fener, gasaray olsa 8-10 tane yer, maç zevkli geçerdi. sen de haklısın dostum

then you would enjoy the game. you are right it was boring for manch. utd fans like you

 dooru, gasaray ???? Bari sen yapma TT

Also in this thread: please write English or give a translation of your Turkish text.

 Replied to me?? Either way you seem such pissed up...

 hmm maybe just an incy wincy bit of a hint lol, it´s this Dubs poor excuse for wit, I´m sorry 

  are you calling me cheap or Man U?  Hope it´s not me as this has quite a bad meaning here! Especially for women!

Btw, I was born on a Tuesday, so according to the old nusery rhyme I´m full of grace lol

I also hope people are not calling other people cheap. This is just football meant for entertainment.

To put the record straight ManU are undeniably the better team should any comparisons be made between the two teams. Although a very old team itself, BJK´s history is no where as rich as ManU´s. I still remember your key players from the 80´s; this alone tells the story.

Nevertheless, this is football and you can always lose to a weaker side, if you are not on form or too reluctant to play. Here the problem was obviously Ferguson´s decision to play young and inexperienced players. If I were him, I would do exactly the same thing. I would also look for other opportunities to get them to show off themselves whenever I feel at ease with the forthcoming fixtures and rankings.

Having said that we must also remember that this ancient club of Besiktas have supporters who have never thought about giving up on their team despite long spells of failures and bad football. They have even broken a few records in decibels and have been entitled as the noisiest supporters of the world. (don´t ask for the source, I´ve just read it in the newspapers).

It is always fun to watch the likes of ManU, Barcelona, Real Madrid and sometimes Fenerbahce, Galatasaray and Besiktas. Football is a beautiful game...

What is cheap is lack of grace.

You have no problems if you have it !

You simply congratulate the winner, do not hide behind excuses, and take Alex Ferguson and his  jolly youngsters out to the nearest playground......... to play in the sand pool.

 Oh calm down - it does not JUST mean "slut"!!!!  There is a phrase "talk is cheap" and it is clear that this is more the meaning AlphaF was getting at!

 Yea I know, my apologies, it was meant in a joking way, (well more being sarcastic haha), Just looking back at my message with fresh eyes I realise I should have made it more clear .  My sarcastic tongue tends to land me in hot water a fair bit haha

Just to set the record straight, I didn´t and don´t think AlphaF was calling me cheap in that way, and I apologise if I insinuated that or caused offence

 I´m a sore loser, too competitive thats my problem haha

but your right so Tebriklerime Beşiktaş, they were the deserved winners on the night

Haha yes, maybe they can come with me and my 2yr old twins to play football in the park, lol, my girls are future soccer/GAA stars! haha

 Well you were under extreme stress from the loss so it´s understandable!   You should support my team (Portsmouth) - not only will you become more accustomed to losing but you will have the added advantage of genuine suprise when you do actually win!

WELL DONE !  

Also get to carry the infameous Turkish star&crescent on your club flag, as an extra bonus.

 Very well said vineyards, I couldn´t have (and didn´t) say it better myself

 Thank you, lol

 oh undoubtedly lol.  Haha love it, but it´s ok I´m Irish so I should be well used to losing in everything, not just sport haha (though we did win the rubgy match yesterday, ROI v RSA, oh look at me bragging haha) and if I´m not by now after 28 years of being Irish, I never will be

I can vouch for that vineyards. We visited Istanbul for the first time earlier this year and our first night coincided with Beşiktaş celebrations on winning the championship. Our hotel was ın the Maçka area near to the İnönü Stadium and thousands of jubilant fans filled the street and stopped the traffic letting off fireworks and flares. As we made our way through the throng we could see young children there with their parents and the atmosphere was good.