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Can anybody help me with french music (leo ferre etc.)
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1.       erdinc
2151 posts
 14 Sep 2005 Wed 03:55 pm

Recently by chance I have come accross to the song "Avec Le Temps" by Leo Ferre and I liked a lot.
In my own language in Turkish I listen a lot of melancholic music. I couldnt find the same taste in English songs but French is very different and very influential I think even tough I dont understand a word.

Now I want to know more about this kind French music. Unfortunately I dont know anybody who listens Leo Ferre and I dont know any radio channels who play this kind music. Maybe you can help me.

What artists and albums would you suggest to someone who likes this particular song I mentioned?

In these kind of situations I read something here and there and buy a few albums and than usually I end up with albums that I would never listen. Do you know also a place where I can listen to samples of albums?
I found other songs by Ferre but I didnt like them all.







2.       Blub
19 posts
 14 Sep 2005 Wed 04:42 pm

I would recommend Jacques Brelles to you. especially the songs Ne me quitte pas and Les vieux amants. I think they're really wonderfull

Here you can listen some samples http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/music/artist/card/0,,407793,00.html

Ow and another good one is Edith Piaf of course, which you can also listen on that same site.
Hope you like them

3.       Blub
19 posts
 14 Sep 2005 Wed 04:46 pm

Oh sorry Jacques Brel I mean..

4.       erdinc
2151 posts
 14 Sep 2005 Wed 06:32 pm

Thank you. I will have a look. I certainly know edith piaf but need to check the other artist.

5.       danny
4 posts
 14 Sep 2005 Wed 07:10 pm

Maybe you might like Helene Segara , there is a couple of songs "Elle tu l'aimes" and "encore une fois" listen to them, another guy Raphael, quite pop music but good, listen to "caravane"

6.       slavica
814 posts
 14 Sep 2005 Wed 07:56 pm

Merhaba, Erdinç

I'm glad I have chanse to try to help you.

I like Franch chansones very much.

Here's list of my favorites:
1. Joe Dassin
– Et Si Tu N'Existais Pas
2. Salvatore Adamo
– La Nuit
– Tombe La Neige
3. Patricia Kass
– Les Hommes Qui Passent
4. Gilbert Becaud
– Nathalie
– Je Revitens Te Chercher
5. Jean Francoise Maurice
– 28 A L'Ombre

As about artists and albums, I would suggest you to find something like BEST OF, since you could not like all songs of one author.

I don't know where you can find this kind of music, but I have all mentioned songs and would be glad to send them to you if you want.

HoşÃ§akal,
Sibel

7.       Lyndie
968 posts
 14 Sep 2005 Wed 10:20 pm

Erdinc,

If you like melancholic, have you listened to the Irish group Anathema, a friend of mine introduced me to it. Personally it is too miserable for me but it is certainly melancholic

8.       Elisa
0 posts
 15 Sep 2005 Thu 06:07 pm

Merhaba Erdinc

Could you give some names/title of the Turkish melancholic music you listen to?

Cok tesekkürler

Elisa

9.       erdinc
2151 posts
 16 Sep 2005 Fri 02:02 am

Merhaba Elisa,

of course I can. You will need to have Real Player installed on your computer to listen to the songs below. If you like any songs and would like the song in better quality I will try to help to find it as mp3 file.

If you cant find a song you can use internet explorer to find it for you. When you are on the page click "edit" on top of your browser and then choose find.

Also please notice that most of the songs listed on the website are useless and are the kind of songs which are forgotton in a few months if not in a few weeks. So interestingly many good names are mentioned on the website together with many ordinary names.

1.a. open this page:
http://www.turkishmusic.org/index2.html

2.a. Look for this title: 70's GREATEST HITS

now find these songs under the title "70's GREATEST HITS" according the order they appear):

Sessiz Gemi (Humeyra)
Unutama Beni (Esmeray)
Her Yerde Kar Var (Ajda Pekkan)
Seninle Bir Dakika (Semiha Yanki)


2.b. Title: 70's GREATEST HITS - II
songs:
Eylulde Gel (Alpay)
Bir Dost Bulamadim (Aydin Tansel)
Unutulur (Banu)

2.c. Title: AYTEN ALPMAN
song:
Memleketim

2.d. Title: BARIS MANCO
songs:
Uzun Ince Bir Yoldayim
Gulpembe

2.e. Title: CEM KARACA in 1970s
song:
Kara Sevda

2.f. FIKRET KIZILOK
songs:
Yeter Ki
Zaman Zaman
Uyku Kardesim
Tek Basina
Inislerim Cikislarim
Yalan
Yana Yana
Guzel Ne Guzel Olmussun

2.g. HUMEYRA
songs:
Sessiz Gemi
Unutulduk Bak Sevgilim
Yillar Sonra

2.h. ILHAN IREM
songs:
Havalar Nasil
Ben Degilim
Yemyesil Bir Deniz
Bunalim
Alasana (the name is written incorrectly. It should be anlasana)
Konusamiyorum

1.b. Now we move to next page:
http://www.turkishmusic.org/index2b.html

2.i. SEZEN AKSU
songs:
Seni Kimler Aldi
Cocuklar Gibi
Tukenecegiz

2.j. TANJU OKAN
Dostlarim

2.k. TIMUR SELCUK
Beyaz Guvercin
Derbeder Omrum
Ayrilanlar Icin
Boyledir Aksamlari Istanbul'un
Sen Nerdesin
Kirik Kalpler
Rihtimda
Kizim'a

You might also like to have a look on a post of me in our music forum.
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_21_342

Thank you for asking me this question since I had the opportunity to listen to many songs I forgot for some time.
If I had to choose only two songs from the above these days I would pick up the following songs.
"Beyaz Guvercin" from Timur Selcuk and "Guzel Ne Guzel Olmussun" from Fikret Kizilok.

10.       slavica
814 posts
 16 Sep 2005 Fri 03:59 pm

I'm just curious: did you find some Franch music you like?

11.       erdinc
2151 posts
 16 Sep 2005 Fri 06:12 pm

Well I'm still searching. But you know its very interesting to discover completely new things. I will write here if I find something which goes good
together with leo ferre.

12.       slavica
814 posts
 16 Sep 2005 Fri 07:22 pm

Did you find songs we recomended? (I agree with Blubs choice too)
Didn't find or don't like ("don't go good
together with leo ferre")?

13.       slavica
814 posts
 16 Sep 2005 Fri 07:40 pm

I've listened some of songs you suggested, and you know what?

Ajda Pekkan - Her Yerde Kar Var = Adamo - Tombe La Neige

I've heard music you like, and I'm sure you'll like what we recomended you.

14.       erdinc
2151 posts
 18 Sep 2005 Sun 05:44 am

Merhaba Sibel,
Thank you for the songs you have e-mailed me. I have listened to them all. Nice surprise sending me Adamo who was known in Turkey a long time ago.

I thought I wouldnt like Patricia Kaas. I had heard her songs many times here and there. But you know she is French and she is a sophisticated woman with a nice voice and its hard for me not to like her.

Gilbert Becaud, isnt my cup of tea. I have listened to the song you send to me, "JE REVIENS TE CHERCHER" and I didnt like it. His music is OK but its not my kind. I mean I probably would love this song if I come across to it in a movie or in a public place but I wouldnt like listening it when on my own. The details are completely different. I think its very important how the artist interacts with the listener. Is it too much publicised or personalised or this kind small details are important, you know. Sometimes there is too much snobbism especially with artists who sing in English. Therefore its very hard for me to find music I like. But the following names are certainly exceptions for me.

These are the ones I like most:
Joe Dassin:
He is perfect. JOE DASSIN - ET SI TU N'EXISTAIS PAS
Feels very French to me.

Jaques Brell:
He is incredible, very good indeed. The song "NE ME QUITTE PAS" has the melancholy I like.

A few months ago in a Turkish forum I had asked for advice on French music.
http://www.turkrock.com/ftopic25542.html I found two songs of Joe Dassin at the time and I thought he wasnt bad. But the song you have send me is much better. It was one of those songs I heard somewhere, probably from another artist. Maybe P. Kaas.

I think it will be a good idea for me to try to listen in this order, from the fast and exciting to the dark and deep starting with Kaas, continuing with Dassin, Brell and ending with Ferre.

I will search for songs of artists mentioned here by other members. So if anyone has names in mind just mention them. Its a pleasure for me to find about the french artists.

15.       bliss
900 posts
 18 Sep 2005 Sun 09:00 am

Celine Dilon has many great songs in French.Dallida is not bad.But I like Charles Aznavour most.He projects the grand romantic fantasy in his personality.
"I write for people about people, about human problems - and first one is Love.But I don't always make it sweet.I leave it just as it is, with all the good and bad parts of it.I write about things that people gladly do but do not dare talk about" - Charles Aznavour.
"The British and Americans have always seen popular music as part of industry, whereas in France they treat it as part of art. Such original artists as Reinhardt, Grappelli and Edith Piaf bear witness to the fact that quality and popularity can go hand in glove.
Of all the great French chanteurs, and there have been a good many, Charles Aznavour is the most complete.His best songs always seem to spill out from his own experience; he says about his method of composing: 'I work like a photographer.When I see an interesting person or problem, I put them into words, frame it into music.'
Added to this, Charles Aznavour is a first-rate actor, and not least of all when he is singing a dramatic ballad, the witty, romantic lover is changed with the deftness of a mime artist into the boastful "ham performer", or the midle-aged man regretting his squeandered youth.
Aznavour knows the the secret.He understands that the romantic fantasies we all experience are for indefinable reasons never more seductive than when sing by sad-eyed Frenchman."
Barri Fntoni

"He projects the grand romantic fantasy in his personality - a tense presence that embodies sadness and ecstasy in equal parts - and not least of all in his songs, a composite of all the emotions that make up the illusion of Love."
Laurie Henshaw
If sombody is interested in , I can share with all.
I prefer to listen old fashoned way, the records on turntable.It is totally different thing.Try it, you'll love it.
I hope this will be interesting for you.
Regards Bliss

16.       slavica
814 posts
 19 Sep 2005 Mon 01:06 am

Merhaba, Erdinç
I'm glad you have already four songs in your new collection.
Wish you luck in further searching, I know how exciting it could be.
I'll try to help as much as I can.
HoşÃ§akal,
Sibel

17.       Elisa
0 posts
 27 Oct 2005 Thu 11:49 am

Selam Erdinç

Thanks a lot for the music information you posted. I know I am very very late with this post, but I have moved to another place, and I was without an internet connection for more than 4 weeks!
But now that I'm all settled again, I can check them out.

Cok tesekkurler
Kendine iyi bak

Elisa

18.       bliss
900 posts
 28 Oct 2005 Fri 10:01 am

Hello Elisa,
Welcome back.I was wondering where were you because for long time did not see you, and was a little worry.I am glad to see you again.

19.       Elisa
0 posts
 28 Oct 2005 Fri 11:22 am

Well thank you Bliss, that's really nice of you to think of me!

20.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 26 Jan 2006 Thu 08:43 pm

For French Music... i cant forget the taste of "Noir Desir"
especially Le Vent Nous Portera..

well dunno if the story is true the solist of the band is in prison becoz he has killed his wife.. for a reason his love to her finished and he didnt want sb else to love his wife and then he shooted her.. what a passion eh?

21.       mltm
3690 posts
 26 Jan 2006 Thu 10:59 pm

French music.. Chansonsss. French are really very good at melancolic, romantic songs.

"Avec le temps" is really a nice song as you found out.

There are a lot to discover, but these days I listen to

-"Amour Perdu" (Lost Love) and "Si l'amour existe encour" (If love still exists) of Salvatore Adamo.

- "Je l'aime a mourir" and "Je t'aimais, je t'aime et je t'aimerais" (I loved, I love and I'll love) from Francis Cabrel.

- "Elle est d'ailleurs" from Pierre Bachelet.

- And you can try Isabelle Boulay. She has a nice voice.

22.       mltm
3690 posts
 26 Jan 2006 Thu 11:05 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

For French Music... i cant forget the taste of "Noir Desir"
especially Le Vent Nous Portera..

well dunno if the story is true the solist of the band is in prison becoz he has killed his wife.. for a reason his love to her finished and he didnt want sb else to love his wife and then he shooted her.. what a passion eh?



It was his girlfriend. As I remember well, he was drunk, they argued in a hotel room, and he beat her very badly.

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