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Duchess of York faces criminal charges over Turkish child-scandal
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10.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 25 May 2010 Tue 03:57 pm

Unfortunately, when someone like the Dutchess of York does something stupid (like trying to pimp her ex for money), it does cast a shadow on all of the good that she does and has done.  I just think it is sad that this bizarre lapse of judgement has cast a shadow on all of it.  Hopefully, people don´t take this attitude about the children in Turkey and stop trying to right a wrong because they see Sarah Ferguson as a liar.  In my mind, it just proves that MONEY makes people do the stupidest things!!! 

11.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 26 May 2010 Wed 11:45 am

 

Quoting janissaridis

 

 

  yeah but in your country nationalism and sympathy to hitler is getting increase so tell us why it is getting increase and why your nation dont like foreigners why in your country foreigner is behaved second class ppl

 tell me  these

u can talk about Turkey, no problem but if u only talk about negative things about TR I have to say smtg that u might dislike and I live in TR since I born, u cant know my country better than me, so u should respect to my opinion even u dont like.but u always refuse everything that I posted such as good things about TR.

 

 

forever DJ xxx

 

 

You´re not posting aything good about Turkey here. Just bad things about Holland. How about talking about Turkey on this Turkish forum?

 

By the way, the Dutch are not supporting Hitler more, but a part of the population is getting more Islamic-fobic, yes. Nationalism is not a real problem in Holland, since hobby number one of Dutch people is to complain about Holland.

 

You´re doing exactly what I hate right now. You´re not saying ANYTHING about Turkey. You´re not saying that it´s good, or bad. That the country might have some problems. You´re just changing the subject to my country. Did you ever take lesson about good argumentation? It might help you to actual convince people that you are not just empty words, because what you are saying now is unrelated to the issue of Turkish children.

12.       janissaridis
148 posts
 26 May 2010 Wed 04:23 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

 

You´re not posting aything good about Turkey here. Just bad things about Holland. How about talking about Turkey on this Turkish forum?

 

By the way, the Dutch are not supporting Hitler more, but a part of the population is getting more Islamic-fobic, yes. Nationalism is not a real problem in Holland, since hobby number one of Dutch people is to complain about Holland.

 

You´re doing exactly what I hate right now. You´re not saying ANYTHING about Turkey. You´re not saying that it´s good, or bad. That the country might have some problems. You´re just changing the subject to my country. Did you ever take lesson about good argumentation? It might help you to actual convince people that you are not just empty words, because what you are saying now is unrelated to the issue of Turkish children.

  it is true that u are always repeating same things in all argument u say that I should get lesson for good argument and convnce others. sekerim, I dont care about good argument, it can be good or bad.it depends on ppl..I dont wanna convince others for anything coz all pll in TC who post bad things about TR are same,narrow minded  and fixed for their opinion they are like staying in same class at school and repeating same wordsso it is nonsense to spend time for replying their posts and try to persuade

 

forever DJ)

 

13.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 26 May 2010 Wed 04:41 pm

So you just say "your opinion is bad" without saying why this opinion is bad? What is the point of that...

14.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 27 May 2010 Thu 01:29 am

BM - have you not learnt yet that some users think that diversion is the best form of argument? Like you were saying that DJ´s nose was dirty but, instead of admitting it, he´d say you hadn´t washed your feet Where´s sense in that? lol

15.       vineyards
1954 posts
 27 May 2010 Thu 02:50 am

Going back to the original discussion:

 

There is no doubt what the Duchess did was ethically wrong. If what she did was limited to arranging an interview for her ex husband there would probably be no legal consequences. This situation however suggests there may indeed be some sort of an illegal expectation as well. The amounts involved and the way the whole thing is arranged are the tell-tale signs of a criminal act undercover.

 

As for the hidden camera footage depicting children being harshly treated in Turkey; this is absolutely another matter.  It must be thoroughly investigated and the perpetrators brought to the court if necessary.

 

There are children on both sides. Some consider this as a campaign disparaging Turkey and some allude that the video depicts how Turks generally treat their children.



Edited (5/27/2010) by vineyards

16.       janissaridis
148 posts
 27 May 2010 Thu 11:07 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

BM - have you not learnt yet that some users think that diversion is the best form of argument? Like you were saying that DJ´s nose was dirty but, instead of admitting it, he´d say you hadn´t washed your feet Where´s sense in that? lol

 

 yess, DD why u dint wash your feet höyttt

 

forever DJxxx

17.       janissaridis
148 posts
 27 May 2010 Thu 11:14 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

So you just say "your opinion is bad" without saying why this opinion is bad? What is the point of that...

 

 why is your opinion bad you are hidebound Im sure u will never post anything good about TR and Turkish ppl

tell us beautiful things about TR such as sun, sea, hotels, turkish men...etc

 

forever DJ)xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

18.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 May 2010 Thu 03:16 pm

 

Quoting janissaridis

 

 

 why is your opinion bad you are hidebound Im sure u will never post anything good about TR and Turkish ppl

tell us beautiful things about TR such as sun, sea, hotels, turkish men...etc

 

forever DJ)xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

 You forgot mountains and valleys.......... and surely Turkish men should be first??

19.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 28 May 2010 Fri 02:18 am

 

Quoting libralady

 

 

 You forgot mountains and valleys.......... and surely Turkish men should be first??

 

Men? No way!  What comes first is künefe, then kestane tatlısı! /drooling/ then mountainslakeshistoricalsitesseasand ruins and then maganda (if I remember the term correctly) boys

20.       janissaridis
148 posts
 28 May 2010 Fri 08:13 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

Men? No way!  What comes first is künefe, then kestane tatlısı! /drooling/ then mountainslakeshistoricalsitesseasand ruins and then maganda (if I remember the term correctly) boys

 

 sekerim, u deal with these all

 

forever DJxxxx

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