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Turky FIBA World Championship 2010
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31 Aug 2010 Tue 08:56 am |
On the 4th day of the World Basketball championship, Turkish team will face Greece tonight at 2100 Turkish time. Turkish team who won their first 2 games are expected to advance to the next round by taking the 1st place in group stage if they win tonight´s game as well.
Quoted from: here
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31 Aug 2010 Tue 09:12 am |
That´s great news. Grease and Amorico are two strong sides. Brozil could become a world power in the near future. I also like Sorbia but we saw what happened to Crowshuh maybe the Balkon school is beginning to lose its power.
What about Itolia and Spanie ? Aren´t these two countries supposed to be major sides in this game. Jermanie is also strong but when you leave out Dirk Novitzky they become an average team.
Can anyone comment on the general lack of interest and continued low achiever status of Englond National Basketball Tean.
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31 Aug 2010 Tue 09:27 am |
That´s great news. Grease and Amorico are two strong sides. Brozil could become a world power in the near future. I also like Sorbia but we saw what happened to Crowshuh maybe the Balkon school is beginning to lose its power.
What about Itolia and Spanie ? Aren´t these two countries supposed to be major sides in this game. Jermanie is also strong but when you leave out Dirk Novitzky they become an average team.
Can anyone comment on the general lack of interest and continued low achiever status of Englond National Basketball Tean.
Nice, but you should be persistent with those.
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31 Aug 2010 Tue 10:32 am |
Can anyone comment on the general lack of interest and continued low achiever status of Englond National Basketball Tean.
When I attended primary school in the 1960s, the boys played football and cricket whilst the girls played netball and stoolball. Boys and girls together played shinty and we had a mixed rounders team.
During my years (11 - 18) at Secondary school we played netball and hockey during the Autumn and Winter then rounders and tennis during the remaining part of the year. In addition, we participated in athletics during the summer term. Oh . . . and the last one to get changed for Physical Education lessons had to run round the small quarry that was in the school´s grounds. It was a girls only school and the boys were down at the other end of a long road. As far as I know they played tennis and had athletics as we did, with the addition of cricket and in the Autumn and Winter they played football and rugby.
As a teenager, out of school, I concentrated on badminton, playing in local leagues then added squash as an adult.
In my experience, in those days basketball wasn´t a sport that was played extensively. I know it´s more popular nowadays, but I´m not sure to what extent. Personally, it doesn´t interest me. I may be wrong but, IMO, basketball will never attract the level of interest in the UK that it has in some other countries. Perhaps it´s one of those sports that just doesn´t getting much government funding (if any), I don´t know. I suppose every country has its favourites and its minority sports.
My friend has five children, all in their teens and they are all keen on sports. She is forever driving them to one sports venue or another. Their interests are football, rugby union, ice hockey and swimming and they participate at a very good competitive level.
Ooooh, all this talk of sport from my childhood . . . reminds me of my most vivid sporting memory. I was ten years old and in my school´s mixed rounders team. We had travelled eight miles, to another school, for a match. We were in to bat and Richard Astin was ready to receive the ball. He was left handed and he absolutely ´slogged´ the ball . . . it went over the hedge, over the main road and over the next hedge, into the field across the road . . . Richard Astin . . . my idol!! He was also a superb footballer, sprinter and artist.
Edited (8/31/2010) by peacetrain
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31 Aug 2010 Tue 10:42 am |
In my experience, in those days basketball wasn´t a sport that was played extensively. I know it´s more popular nowadays, but I´m not sure to what extent. Personally, it doesn´t interest me. I may be wrong but, IMO, basketball will never attract the level of interest in the UK that it has in some other countries.
Basketball is the most popular sports in some countries (ex: Greece and probably Serbia, Lithuania etc)
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31 Aug 2010 Tue 10:56 am |
Basketball is the most popular sports in some countries (ex: Greece and probably Serbia, Lithuania etc)
Yes, I´m sure it is. Different countries have different sporting preferences.
Another sport I followed from being a teenager was Rally Driving. Rally driving often took place during the night, on main roads and narrow country roads. I´ve spent many a night sat up a tree with a flask of hot coffee.
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31 Aug 2010 Tue 04:17 pm |
Greece such a row team, in defence palyers can do anything, people call it good defence and professionalism. Also they have a good lobby so the latest hearsays they are now pressuring FIBA to appoint same referee in Puerto Rico match, Carl Jungebrand.
si++ by the way what do you think about organization? Imo it is a fiasco so far started with opening ceremony, I was thinking if this organization taking place in Greece, certainly sports with politics do not go well, then national anthems of some teams could not be played, and then problems on score boards lately...
On the 4th day of the World Basketball championship, Turkish team will face Greece tonight at 2100 Turkish time. Turkish team who won their first 2 games are expected to advance to the next round by taking the 1st place in group stage if they win tonight´s game as well.
Quoted from: here
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31 Aug 2010 Tue 10:55 pm |
Bravoo Turkey Congratulations
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31 Aug 2010 Tue 11:04 pm |
They´ve played wonderful! It was a great match! We did 3 at 3! Our hearts are with players and Türkiye!
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31 Aug 2010 Tue 11:43 pm |
TR have beaten Greece 76 to 65. Ersan was superb, referee was Jungebrant and guess what? He was outrageous.
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31 Aug 2010 Tue 11:45 pm |
Our guys played very well this evening (vs Greece) It was very joyful to watch Ersan and Omer´s spectecular moves.
I am hopeful for final four...
Go guys...
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31 Aug 2010 Tue 11:50 pm |
There is no final four but semifinal , TR had a great chance to finish the group in the 1st position...
I am hopeful for final four...
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01 Sep 2010 Wed 12:58 am |
yeah you´re right...for the semi final...
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01 Sep 2010 Wed 08:23 am |
Greece such a row team, in defence palyers can do anything, people call it good defence and professionalism. Also they have a good lobby so the latest hearsays they are now pressuring FIBA to appoint same referee in Puerto Rico match, Carl Jungebrand.
si++ by the way what do you think about organization? Imo it is a fiasco so far started with opening ceremony, I was thinking if this organization taking place in Greece, certainly sports with politics do not go well, then national anthems of some teams could not be played, and then problems on score boards lately...
I didn´t watch the opening ceremony, and I couldn´t see national anthems not played bit but I saw the problem on score board during USA-Brasil game. Were there other games with scoreboard problems? Not so perfect so far as it sounds from your description.
Edit: There is some talk here. They think the opening ceromony was the best ever so far.
Edited (9/1/2010) by si++
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01 Sep 2010 Wed 08:26 am |
TR have beaten Greece 76 to 65. Ersan was superb, referee was Jungebrant and guess what? He was outrageous.
After the game, they said that it was the first win in last 30 years. Incredible, we couldn´t beat Greece in last 30 years until this game?
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01 Sep 2010 Wed 08:30 am |
There is no final four but semifinal , TR had a great chance to finish the group in the 1st position... One win in two games will suffice. PortoRico tonight and China tomorrow. But finishing group in the first place may turn out to be a bad luck as we may match with Serbia in the next round.
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01 Sep 2010 Wed 03:27 pm |
I didn´t watch the opening ceremony, and I couldn´t see national anthems not played bit but I saw the problem on score board during USA-Brasil game. Were there other games with scoreboard problems? Not so perfect so far as it sounds from your description.
Yes, in USA-Brasil match there was scoreboard problem and also scores on scoreboard sometimes written wrong, corrected during the match. Puerto Rico national anthem could not be played as far as i remember. By the way rte disturbed by cheerleaders, when he was watching matches, no cheerleaders, Ramazan malum
Edit: There is some talk here. They think the opening ceromony was the best ever so far.
Did you read the comments below? Anyway I really wonder how it was the best ever since it was the first time in World Basketball Championships. Has the one who wrote this ever watched an opening ceremony in his life? It was great anyhow, never seen before that was right, boys wearing flip flops circumambulating a huge horse reconstructed from a donkey maybe, Tülin Şahin aka "çakma Cindy" who hardly speaks Turkish was the presenter, Müslüm baba was one of the star. What is the relevance of Grek dances, singers or Troya since we have lots of beautiful traditional dances and good singers? Simply I thought it was not presenting Turkish culture but something lame more similar to Grek, that is why I criticized.
criticism by Yılmaz Özdil here
Edited (9/1/2010) by armegon
[link for an article]
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01 Sep 2010 Wed 03:30 pm |
One win in two games will suffice. PortoRico tonight and China tomorrow. But finishing group in the first place may turn out to be a bad luck as we may match with Serbia in the next round.
Right, one win will be enough. But according to latest results highly possible we will play with Canada or New Zealand in next round, we may match with Brazil or Australia in quarter final, and in semifinal Serbia or France, not that bad i guess...
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03 Sep 2010 Fri 08:54 am |
Greeks do it again and lose to Russia to avoid matching up with Spain in the next round. Turkish coach Bogdan Tanjevic was present during the game Greece-Russia yesterday and thought it was an aimed defeat of Greeks. Such that he had an argument with Greek Player Bourousis after he kicked an ad board saying "there is no need for theater here".
Source: here
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But it didn´t go as they planned and we will see Greece-Spain match in the next round.
Edited (9/3/2010) by si++
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03 Sep 2010 Fri 04:45 pm |
Cheerleaders absent for Turkey matches at World Basketball Championships
The absence of scantily clad female cheerleaders at recent World Championship basketball matches involving host nation Turkey has raised eyebrows in the overwhelmingly Muslim but officially secular nation.
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Troupes of energetic cheerleaders have entertained the crowds at matches involving other teams in the tournament, but no dancers appeared during Turkey´s match against Greece on Tuesday nor their match against Russia on Sunday.
The Russia match was attended by Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan and his wife, who wears the Muslim headscarf.
"Are cheerleaders not allowed for Turks?" asked news website Gazeteport on Wednesday.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/s...hampionships.html
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Below is a Turkish source: it says ´instead of cheerleaders, Bulent Arinc , who is Deputy Prime minister in the government, will be reading poetry during the breaks for motivation´
http://www.zaytung.com/haberdetay.asp?newsid=37348
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05 Sep 2010 Sun 11:10 pm |
Who´s next???
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05 Sep 2010 Sun 11:13 pm |
We´re going to play with Slovenia in Istanbul on 8th of September, at 21:00
Edited (9/5/2010) by turkishcobra
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05 Sep 2010 Sun 11:16 pm |
I rather wait for the end of the dream on the 12th of September
Edited (9/7/2010) by oeince
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06 Sep 2010 Mon 12:10 pm |
The game against France will be their (Turks´ last? Turkey had organised Euro 2001 in İstanbul and made it to Final game then. This time we have a similar atmosphere here. This time we played in Sinan Erdem hall which, compared to Abdi İpekçi, is larger, more modern, a little more sanitized but less pressure felt though it was still difficult when fifteen thousand fans singing the national anthem in synch. If the Turkish players find themselves in a tense in the game against Slovenia in the 3rd quarter or last, the support may be increased tenfold. Turkey has something of France 98 in football. If nothing goes wrong, they can aim high. The title? It does not seem impossible, but it´s far.
Quoted from: here
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07 Sep 2010 Tue 01:44 pm |
Greeks do it again and lose to Russia to avoid matching up with Spain in the next round. Turkish coach Bogdan Tanjevic was present during the game Greece-Russia yesterday and thought it was an aimed defeat of Greeks. Such that he had an argument with Greek Player Bourousis after he kicked an ad board saying "there is no need for theater here".
Source: here
Edit:
But it didn´t go as they planned and we will see Greece-Spain match in the next round.
After watching the Russian team top the New Zealand team last night it has now been clear that French team did also let NZ team easily beat them so as not to face up the Greek team and instead preferred the Turkish team but their plan didn´t work out as they expected either.
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07 Sep 2010 Tue 05:47 pm |
Actually French´s plan was to face with Russia, they can manage it if NZ beat them less than 12 point difference, France tried this in last period very hard but in last 20 seconds NZ scored 7 points with two extraordinary 3 point shot and after that their plan failed simply.
After watching the Russian team top the New Zealand team last night it has now been clear that French team did also let NZ team easily beat them so as not to face up the Greek team and instead preferred the Turkish team but their plan didn´t work out as they expected either.
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08 Sep 2010 Wed 08:53 pm |
Argantina - Brasil match was very well however, Serbia - Spain match was awesome. I was expecting Spain to win but Serbia was so much concantrated on the match.
Slovenia - Turkey match will begin in ten minutes. This match will be hard and fine and I guess Turkey will win at the end. Semi final with Serbia will be harder but i guess Turkey is able to win that match too. I really wonder the result of Turkey - USA final.
Afterall, despite the lack of many star players, i watch a wonderful tournement nowadays.
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10 Sep 2010 Fri 02:37 pm |
After watching the Turkish team beat Slovenia, I have started to believe that we may make our way into the final (Slavica would disagree for sure) and win the championship as well. But first we need to pass Serbia. Let´s wait and see.
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10 Sep 2010 Fri 05:01 pm |
After watching the Turkish team beat Slovenia, I have started to believe that we may make our way into the final (Slavica would disagree for sure) and win the championship as well. But first we need to pass Serbia. Let´s wait and see.
Everything may happen... Serbian national team has been "raised from ashes" by our coach Duda Ivković and reaching semifinale is alraedy a success. Of course, we also hope to play in final match and win the championship, but we must consider one more fact – Türkiye will have one player more, audience, and advantage of the host. So, let the better win
Anyway, even if Türkiye win, I won´t suffer much, because not only your coach, Bogdan Tanjević, an excellent and experienced expert, is a Serbian, but also several of "12 Dev Adam" - Hedo Türkoğlu, Semih Erden, Mirsad Türkcan, Mehmet Okur (I´m not sure if they all play in recent national team) – have their origins in Srbia/Montenegro
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10 Sep 2010 Fri 06:54 pm |
I´m an avid basketball fan here in usa. In my opinion, I think international basketball players are definitely leading the teams here and they are some of the toughest players in the world. Think about it, they played in teams around the world and had to play under different coaches and learn different tactics, deal with language barriers and cultures, overcome many obstacles and still somehow get out on the floor and play hard! My local team, has had some excellent international players and now we will see Hedo here soon.... Much respect to all the teams in FIBA, win or lose, they worked hard to get to the finals.. GO TURKEY!
I´ve missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I´ve lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I´ve been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I´ve failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed. -
Michael Jordan
Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen. -
Michael Jordan
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10 Sep 2010 Fri 08:36 pm |
Semih and Hidayet are now playing for the current national team. Mirsad quitted to play for national team and afaik Mehmet has an injury. Lots of bosniak origin Turkish citizens playing in Turkish basketball league. I think they were born to play basketball.
also several of "12 Dev Adam" - Hedo Türkoğlu, Semih Erden, Mirsad Türkcan, Mehmet Okur (I´m not sure if they all play in recent national team) – have their origins in Srbia/Montenegro
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10 Sep 2010 Fri 09:40 pm |
I think they were born to play basketball.
Yeap! There must be something in the air!
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10 Sep 2010 Fri 09:46 pm |
And the ground must be watery
Yeap! There must be something in the air!
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11 Sep 2010 Sat 12:47 am |
Tomorrow will be the day of sports At 17.00 Turkey - Greece Volleyball Man, At 19.00 USA - Lithuania also some football super legue matches for football funs and at 21.00 Turkey - Serbia.
This weekend really is a bayram
Edited (9/11/2010) by oeince
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11 Sep 2010 Sat 10:02 am |
Yeap! There must be something in the air!
Right! 8 years ago Serbia came from nothing and win the championship. 4 years ago you were literally absent. And now you have a completely new team of youngsters and have hopes to win it again.
Anyway, I admire your people´s ability for basketbal.
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11 Sep 2010 Sat 10:11 am |
Tomorrow will be the day of sports At 17.00 Turkey - Greece Volleyball Man, At 19.00 USA - Lithuania also some football super legue matches for football funs and at 21.00 Turkey - Serbia.
This weekend really is a bayram
I wathed the first leg of the volleyball game last week. We really outperformed Greece. We will probably pass them this time as well.
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11 Sep 2010 Sat 11:19 am |
And the ground must be watery
Slavica,
Armegon is referring to a Turkish saying we use to talk about big tall guys:
"Sulak yerde büyümüş" = "He must have grown up somewhere with much of water supply"
Just out of curiosity, I have found some data for average male height here:
Stats between 2006-2008 Metric System Version: 1)Average Height by Country (Youth:20-30 years) Country/Average Male Height (cm)/population Netherlands 184,8 16318199 Iceland 181,5 319355 Denmark 181,1 5413392 Czech Republic 180,8 10246178 Slovenia 180,3 2007711 Germany 180,3 82424609 Norway 180,3 4737171 Sweden 180,0 8986400 Croatia 180,0 4496869 Finland 180,0 5214512 Luxembourg 179,9 486006 Estonia 179,6 1307605 Austria 179,2 8174762 Australia 179,0 19913144 Serbia 178,5 10159046 Poland 178,3 38626349 Switzerland 178,1 7450867 Belgium 178,0 10348276 Greece 177,9 10647529 United Kingdom 177,8 60270708 United States 177,6 293027571 New Zealand 177,5 3993817 Hungary 177,3 10106017 Ireland 177,0 3969558 Ukraine 176,5 47732079 Canada 176,3 32507874 Lithuania 176,3 3565205 Russia 176,2 143782338 Israel 176,2 7112359 Lebanon 176,2 3777218 Turkey 176,1 68893918 France 176,0 60424213 Uzbekistan 175,4 26410416 Spain 175,0 40280780 Senegal 175,0 10852147 Italy 174,8 58057477 Mali 174,5 12324029 Jamaica 174,3 2804332 South Korea 174,2 48598175 Romania 174,0 22355551 Azerbaijan 174,0 8177717 Uruguay 173,7 3399237 Portugal 173,5 10524145 Argentina 173,5 39144753 Iran 173,4 67503205 Syria 173,0 18016874 Taiwan 172,7 22920946 Morocco 172,7 32209101 Egypt 172,3 76117421 Tunisia 172,3 9974722 Algeria 172,2 32129324 Côte d´Ivoire 172,1 18373060 Japan 172,1 127333002 Hong Kong 172,1 7210505 South Africa 172,0 42718530 Gambia 172,0 1735464 China 171,8 1298847624 Cameroon 171,6 16063678 Ghana 171,5 23382848 Brazil 171,3 184101109 Colombia 171,2 42310775 Chile 171,0 15823957 Singapore 170,8 4353893 Venezuela 170,5 23542649 Paraguay 170,5 6191368 Pakistan 169,3 159196336 Mexico 169,2 104959594 Thailand 169,0 64865523 Mongolia 168,8 2751314 Malaysia 168,5 23522482 Sri Lanka 168,0 20064776 Malawi 168,0 13931831 Bahrain 167,6 718306 Iraq 167,4 25374691 Nigeria 167,0 138283240 Peru 166,3 27544305 North Korea 166,1 22697553 Vietnam 165,0 82689518 India 164,5 1065070607 Philippines 164,2 86241697 Indonesia 163,0 238452952 Cambodia 162,5 13363421
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11 Sep 2010 Sat 04:29 pm |
Slavica,
Armegon is referring to a Turkish saying we use to talk about big tall guys:
"Sulak yerde büyümüş" = "He must have grown up somewhere with much of water supply"
Yes, I supposed so, although I didn´t know the exact saying. We have the similar saying: "He grows as from water" for someone who grows fast
Anyway, I don´t think the hight is crucial for good basketball players (data you´ve posted prove that). Serbia and ex-Yugoslavia (which used be one of the best counties in basketaball and whose direct successor, considered by FIBA, is Serbia) had many excellent and world famous basketball players who were only 180-190 cm. Seems that there really IS something in the air of some countries, when you consider, as for example, population, and results in some sports, let´s say basketball. It is easy for Russia, to find "12 Dev Adam" among 150 million people, but look at Lithuania, with only 3,5 million, they are as good as Russians, and probably better. I won´t mention Serbia and its 10 million .
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11 Sep 2010 Sat 11:41 pm |
TÜRKİYE, ANKARA, FIBA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP 2010 BASKETBALL WORLD BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIP WORLD BASKETBALL CUP 11.09.2010 TÜRKİYE : 83 SIRBİSTAN : 82 Bravo TÜRKİYE! GREAT TÜRKİYE! TÜRKİYE IS COMING FOR THE NEW WORLD CHAMPION THE FINAL MATCH = TÜRKİYE - USA
Greetings from ANKARA, 23.45
Edited (9/11/2010) by yilgun-2010
Edited (9/11/2010) by yilgun-2010
Edited (9/12/2010) by yilgun-2010
Edited (9/12/2010) by yilgun-2010
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11 Sep 2010 Sat 11:50 pm |
Congratulations
And good luck tomorrow...
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11 Sep 2010 Sat 11:57 pm |
TÜRKİYE, ANKARA, FIBA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP 2010 BASKETBALL 11.09.2010 TÜRKİYE : 83 SIRBİSTAN : 82 Bravo TÜRKİYE! GREAT TÜRKİYE! TÜRKİYE IS COMING FOR THE NEW WORLD CHAMPION THE FINAL MATCH = TÜRKİYE - USA
Türkiye uzmansın
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12 Sep 2010 Sun 05:44 am |
This last game was a good answer to those scums who flashed three finger chetnik salutes throughout the game. I hope they got that this is not Serbia and we are not Bosnians.
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12 Sep 2010 Sun 07:17 am |
This last game was a good answer to those scums who flashed three finger chetnik salutes throughout the game. I hope they got that this is not Serbia and we are not Bosnians.
Lucky, the referees were not Dutch....
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12 Sep 2010 Sun 09:45 am |
Congratulations
And good luck tomorrow...
Thank you Slavica,
It was a great achievement for us. We never have been so successful in team sports. This is the greatest of all for us so far. It will be even greater if we can win tonight as well. I hope USA will create less problems for us tonight.
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12 Sep 2010 Sun 09:49 am |
I jumped and shouted for win after the last basket and thought we won the game then we noticed that there was still 0.5 secs to go. I was worried about it because I saw teams scoring 3 points when they were 2 down and there was 0.2 secs to go. Semih´s block means to much for our achievement.
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12 Sep 2010 Sun 05:10 pm |
I don´t know where you got this from but I have my doubts about these figures. When I applied for voluntary/compulsory military service, I went through a health check up which included weight and height measurements. The soldier in charge of the measurements had fixed the meter at 173cms. Being too lazy to adjust for every single person he would write a few centimeters up or down. That being the standard, I wouldn´t be surprized if the entire Turkish army measured at a standard 173cms.
Edited (9/12/2010) by vineyards
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12 Sep 2010 Sun 07:19 pm |
Source was given as a link in si++´s post if you did care.
I don´t know where you got this from but I have my doubts about these figures.
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12 Sep 2010 Sun 07:47 pm |
Well, the link is there. I might have said, "where did they get these figures..." Nobody ever measured me or anyone in my family. I just had to bow down my head and passed under it.
Source was given as a link in si++´s post if you did care.
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12 Sep 2010 Sun 08:03 pm |
Here is the source that si++ posted http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/ase/116/3/116_191/_html
Now you can go and ask them how dare they did not measure your family.
Well, the link is there. I might have said, "where did they get these figures..." Nobody ever measured me or anyone in my family. I just had to bow down my head and passed under it.
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13 Sep 2010 Mon 09:40 am |
This has been the greatest achievement by a Turkish team so far in a team sport.
Standings:
1. ABD (USA) 2. Türkiye 3. Litvanya (Lithuania) 4. Sırbistan (Serbia) 5. Arjantin (Argentina) 6. İspanya (Spain) 7. Rusya (Russia) 8. Slovenya (Slovenia) 9. Brezilya (Brasil) 10. Avustralya (Australia) 11. Yunanistan (Greece) 12. Yeni Zelanda (New Zeeland) 13. Fransa (France) 14. Hırvatistan (Croatia) 15. Angola 16. Çin Halk Cumhuriyeti (China) 17. Almanya (Germany) 18. Porto Riko (Porto Rico) 19. İran 20. Lübnan (Lebanon) 21. Fildişi Sahili (Ivory Coast) 22. Kanada (Canada) 23. Ürdün (Jordan) 24. Tunus (Tunesia)
Source: here
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13 Sep 2010 Mon 10:59 am |
Well, the link is there. I might have said, "where did they get these figures..." Nobody ever measured me or anyone in my family. I just had to bow down my head and passed under it.
Nobody asks me about my vote but they still predict the results very closely before the elections. haven´t you heard of "central limit theorem"? That´s what they are all based on.
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