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Absurd news from Turkie
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03 Nov 2010 Wed 12:36 am |
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Some people can also remain sceptical about the objectivity if some statements are not seen as insult which has many examples. Then let ask God to decide 
What if there´s no god?  no hope for objective sentence either way
Alpha - you´re free to criticise Churchil. How about starting with giving Poland to Stalin?
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03 Nov 2010 Wed 12:36 am |
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Why dont people go insult the likes of Winston Churchill; he miserably lost two important wars...Is there a law against insulting him, too?
I agree that Ataturk was a brilliant statagist especially in the Gallapolie battle and yes Churchill and the King of England at the time used men from their "Dominions" ie Canada, Australians, ect... to fight their battles and if their were laws here in Canada forbiding us to speak against the king, queen and historical figures I would be the first one put to the gallows.
I do not know the history of Ataturk but under the cloak of a hero there is but a man.
Edited (11/3/2010) by stumpy
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03 Nov 2010 Wed 02:15 pm |
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Well actually, I read something about the whole youtube saga and the things seems quite bizarre:
-2 years ago some people put up some Ataturk videos containing insults to him from Germany. (4 videos)
-in 2008, Turkey asked youtube to remove them.
-Youtube replied by ´fine, we will stop those videos being viewed by Turkish user with IP blocking´
-Then when everything was fine, the prosecutor asks one more thing: ´Blocking them for Turkey is not enough, stop them being viewed by the world´
-Youtube says ´That is well beyond Turkey´s jurisdiction´ and Turkey then bans youtube
-A Turkish entrepreneur living in Germany, undertakes the protection of copyright of the TRT (Turkish Radio Television) material.
-And they discover the videos are from TRT archives!!!!!!!-If you have the copyrights of a clip, you can ask youtube to remove those even if they are not uploaded by you.
-The Turkish entrepreneur /the German company asks youtube to remove copyrighted materials and youtube removes them as their normal procedure..The ban is lifted!!
-And youtube did not understand how the ban was lifted as they did not know.
-The vidoes are back into youtube apparently..
-And the ban has been reinstated for another reason..
How more embarrassing can it get?
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03 Nov 2010 Wed 04:04 pm |
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Well actually, I read something about the whole youtube saga and the things seems quite bizarre:
-2 years ago some people put up some Ataturk videos containing insults to him from Germany. (4 videos)
-in 2008, Turkey asked youtube to remove them.
-Youtube replied by ´fine, we will stop those videos being viewed by Turkish user with IP blocking´
-Then when everything was fine, the prosecutor asks one more thing: ´Blocking them for Turkey is not enough, stop them being viewed by the world´
-Youtube says ´That is well beyond Turkey´s jurisdiction´ and Turkey then bans youtube
-A Turkish entrepreneur living in Germany, undertakes the protection of copyright of the TRT (Turkish Radio Television) material.
-And they discover the videos are from TRT archives!!!!!!!-If you have the copyrights of a clip, you can ask youtube to remove those even if they are not uploaded by you.
-The Turkish entrepreneur /the German company asks youtube to remove copyrighted materials and youtube removes them as their normal procedure..The ban is lifted!!
-And youtube did not understand how the ban was lifted as they did not know.
-The vidoes are back into youtube apparently..
-And the ban has been reinstated for another reason..
How more embarrassing can it get?
hahaha we should be glad Turkey did not demand to close Youtube worldwide
I agree it makes Turkey a laughing stock but, hey, whatever rocks your boat
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03 Nov 2010 Wed 04:45 pm |
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 quite interesting! Why dont Turks see that this obsession is over the top?
Well actually, I read something about the whole youtube saga and the things seems quite bizarre:
-2 years ago some people put up some Ataturk videos containing insults to him from Germany. (4 videos)
-in 2008, Turkey asked youtube to remove them.
-Youtube replied by ´fine, we will stop those videos being viewed by Turkish user with IP blocking´
-Then when everything was fine, the prosecutor asks one more thing: ´Blocking them for Turkey is not enough, stop them being viewed by the world´
-Youtube says ´That is well beyond Turkey´s jurisdiction´ and Turkey then bans youtube
-A Turkish entrepreneur living in Germany, undertakes the protection of copyright of the TRT (Turkish Radio Television) material.
-And they discover the videos are from TRT archives!!!!!!!-If you have the copyrights of a clip, you can ask youtube to remove those even if they are not uploaded by you.
-The Turkish entrepreneur /the German company asks youtube to remove copyrighted materials and youtube removes them as their normal procedure..The ban is lifted!!
-And youtube did not understand how the ban was lifted as they did not know.
-The vidoes are back into youtube apparently..
-And the ban has been reinstated for another reason..
How more embarrassing can it get?
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03 Nov 2010 Wed 05:20 pm |
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Well actually, I read something about the whole youtube saga and the things seems quite bizarre:
-2 years ago some people put up some Ataturk videos containing insults to him from Germany. (4 videos)
-in 2008, Turkey asked youtube to remove them.
-Youtube replied by ´fine, we will stop those videos being viewed by Turkish user with IP blocking´
-Then when everything was fine, the prosecutor asks one more thing: ´Blocking them for Turkey is not enough, stop them being viewed by the world´
-Youtube says ´That is well beyond Turkey´s jurisdiction´ and Turkey then bans youtube
-A Turkish entrepreneur living in Germany, undertakes the protection of copyright of the TRT (Turkish Radio Television) material.
-And they discover the videos are from TRT archives!!!!!!!-If you have the copyrights of a clip, you can ask youtube to remove those even if they are not uploaded by you.
-The Turkish entrepreneur /the German company asks youtube to remove copyrighted materials and youtube removes them as their normal procedure..The ban is lifted!!
-And youtube did not understand how the ban was lifted as they did not know.
-The vidoes are back into youtube apparently..
-And the ban has been reinstated for another reason..
How more embarrassing can it get?
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03 Nov 2010 Wed 05:44 pm |
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Youtube did not understand how the ban was lifted as they did not know.
-The vidoes are back into youtube apparently..
-And the ban has been reinstated for another reason..
How more embarrassing can it get?
"Just two days ago, Transport Minister Binali Yildrim had said in a statement, "Ever since the insulting content was removed, there is no reason to continue the ban. I hope that they have also learned from this experience and the same thing will not happen again. YouTube will hopefully carry out its organization in Turkey within the limits of law in the future."
Source: http://www.usanewsweek.com/news/Turkey-Bans-Youtube-Once-Again-1288724889/
Personally, I don´t think that Google (Youtube) gives a flick.
"The world doesn´t just disappear when you close your eyes, does it?" (Memento)
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03 Nov 2010 Wed 05:55 pm |
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Yeah, I agree that Youtube doesn´t care about whether turkey allows it or not, especially that it´s more than easy to access Youtube from Turkey via proxy servers. It´s much ado about nothing, I think the Turkish government wants to show the country they´re fighting for their god´s respect and fail to see they do him more harm than good
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03 Nov 2010 Wed 06:14 pm |
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Yeah, I agree that Youtube doesn´t care about whether turkey allows it or not, especially that it´s more than easy to access Youtube from Turkey via proxy servers. It´s much ado about nothing, I think the Turkish government wants to show the country they´re fighting for their god´s respect and fail to see they do him more harm than good
The ultimate question is ... what are they trying to achieve with this act? What is it good for? What are the consequences?
I guess they didn´t really think this through.
And yes, everybody uses Youtube. You don´t even need proxy servers, there is a little application for it, and computer geeks can solve this with a simple setting.
So basically, this fuss is all for nothing.
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03 Nov 2010 Wed 06:30 pm |
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The solution is simple....
Trademark any and all images and documents of Ataturk
Then when something is posted, infringment rights violation can be invoked and all video, image or stream that uses Ataturk´s image can be stopped
Sony Music does it for their sound tracks, how many videos were posted on youtube and were blocked by youtube because the soundtrack had infringments violations
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03 Nov 2010 Wed 06:33 pm |
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Stumpy - that´s actually what the germany-based Turkish company did when they asked Youtube to remove videos with Ataturk. But you can´t copyright a person, can you? Esopecially a public figure - anybody can draw or type his name and then express their opinion about him on Youtube
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