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1.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 27 May 2006 Sat 01:19 pm

Günaydın arkadaşlarım,

I would like if every person here who lives in Turkey, would like to add his/her name to the list and tell me their appartment and the price they pay each month for rent. Forgive me if this is rude to ask, but i need to get some idea in my mind. (You can use either euros or liras, doesn't matter . Btw, if you don't feel like posting it in public, please send me a PM, the information will be safe with me


For example:

Deli_kizin:
- 2 bedrooms, livingroom, kitchen, bathroom, balcony
- 600 liras

Next person:
- Type of appartment/amount of rooms
- price in either euros or liras


My appartment is figurative as i don't have one I just need a 1-person-appartment, but i would like to hear from everybody, even if they live (like Kadir) together with a friend.

Thanks so much in advance

2.       Lyndie
968 posts
 27 May 2006 Sat 03:43 pm

I think a lot depends on where you live. I know in Ayvalik, I could rent an 2/3 bed apartment, salon, b/r, kitchen for approx £1,000 per year! In Mersin 5 years ago, you could BUY a small apartment (not in a good area I admit) for £1,000!

Whatever you do, don't try and rent somewhere from an agent in Holland. It is best to get Kadir to find somewhere, because it will be cheaper

3.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 27 May 2006 Sat 04:05 pm

Ohh no, i will definitely buy it there together with Kadir Well, rent.. because if everything goes well i won't need it longer than 1 year

But i'm just trying to have an idea of the amount of money i will have to ask from my parents each month And as i don't get any scolarship..

As for the neighbourhood, Narlıdere or Bornova should do. Probably the first one, as it will be close to Kadir (the second one is close to the uni, but far from Kadir). I prefer to live somewhere close to him so that i will feel more safe, even if this means i will have to travel 45 minutes by PS each day.

4.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 27 May 2006 Sat 04:06 pm

Goner, Ramayan, Kadir37, Jannissary, uYkuSuz, SuiGeneris.. come ooooon don't you all live in Türkiye Please share your information with me. Even Lyndie did, though she isn't a Turkish citizen (yet )

5.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 27 May 2006 Sat 05:04 pm

Bedava yaşıyoruz bedava!
Ev benim... Üç oda bir salon. burda öyle iki banyo üç wc bulamazsın kolay kolay ama belki çıkar tabi...

Başka ne diyecektik? Salon bağımsız, yerler parke, yeni boyandı. Ankara manzaralı, altıncı kat, güney cephe, sokağa bakıyor. Dayalı döşeli, doktordan satılık. lol

6.       mltm
3690 posts
 27 May 2006 Sat 05:12 pm

Our apartment we currently live is ours, but 2 years before our rent was around 600ytl per month plus around 120ytl for the apartment gos (maintenance, gas, doorman). (3+1, 3 balcony,120 m2, Kadıköy, Istanbul)

In Istanbul the rents start from 500 and go up to 1500ytl, I guess.

7.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 27 May 2006 Sat 05:37 pm

Quoting caliptrix:

Bedava yaşıyoruz bedava!
Ev benim... Üç oda bir salon. burda öyle iki banyo üç wc bulamazsın kolay kolay ama belki çıkar tabi...

Başka ne diyecektik? Salon bağımsız, yerler parke, yeni boyandı. Ankara manzaralı, altıncı kat, güney cephe, sokağa bakıyor. Dayalı döşeli, doktordan satılık. lol



Obviously it doesn't help me if you say it in Turkish (though i understood most of it), and telling my parents that i could get a 'bedava appartment' doesn't really sound trustworthy does it

Thanks anyway

You too Meltem, now that is the info i need

8.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 27 May 2006 Sat 05:44 pm

Quoting mltm:

Our apartment we currently live is ours, but 2 years before our rent was around 600ytl per month plus around 120ytl for the apartment gos (maintenance, gas, doorman). (3+1, 3 balcony,120 m2, Kadıköy, Istanbul)

In Istanbul the rents start from 500 and go up to 1500ytl, I guess.



OMG i actually just put the 720ytl in the converter n that's only about 370 euros So let's say: 720 ytl for life-costs, excluding food and clothing?

9.       mltm
3690 posts
 27 May 2006 Sat 05:59 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:


OMG i actually just put the 720ytl in the converter n that's only about 370 euros So let's say: 720 ytl for life-costs, excluding food and clothing?


Yes, but I couldn't understand if you find it high or low. According to turkish standards it's quite a big amount, and don't forget Esther that you're going to live with turkish salary in the future

10.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 27 May 2006 Sat 06:04 pm

Quoting mltm:

Yes, but I couldn't understand if you find it high or low. According to turkish standards it's quite a big money, and don't forget Esther that you're going to live with turkish salary in the future



I find it low and I'll explain why: In Holland for the same amount of money you can find a bedroom and a living room if you're lucky. Your bathroom and kitchen will be shared with other members in the appartment building. And about the living room,, it might be a shared one as well. You can probably forget about the balcony or any thing that would count as a garden. The kitchen and bathroom will probably get painted in awful childish colors and the students living there, will use paint and filtpens, to write message on it to eachother :-S

Yes, it's true that there is much chance that I will get Turkish salary in the future, but now you mustn't forget that I'm gonna marry my heartdoctor And I still hope of becoming a journalist or interpreter under Dutch standards. If not.. we'll see how it goes. First get through the unviersity-years with as less money as possible, as my parents will have to pay for it. And mind you, I'm not burning my fingers on serving pancakes in the weekends just because i like it

11.       oeince
582 posts
 27 May 2006 Sat 09:55 pm

as i wrote u before if u write what u want i can help u i guess.do u wish to buy or to rent? i dont know about narlidere a lot but can tell about bornova if u want. as an avarage for giving an idea a good house with 3 rooms 1 saloon kitchen bathroom toilet balcony is about 50000 euro if u want to buy. however that flat's rent is about 300-400 euro. if u look for cheaper solutions the minimum rent was 425 in bornova for a liveable flat.

12.       oeince
582 posts
 27 May 2006 Sat 09:58 pm

and if u plan to work in turkey: if ur avarage u can earn 500-750 euros according to ur qualities on the begining.

13.       janissary
0 posts
 28 May 2006 Sun 12:19 am

I saw my name
For istanbul as someones said it depends on where u want to live. if you want to live in a central place, it will be a bit expensive.
There are some districts, universty students live. rents are approximately 600-750 YTL, if you are lucky u can find 400-500 one. BUT real estate agents wants extra money at first.
I think U can find a good apartment with 600 ytl

14.       erdinc
2151 posts
 28 May 2006 Sun 03:39 am

Have a look on this website:
http://www.emlakaktif.com/index.php?language=english

Bornova will be a little more expensive than other areas because it is close to Ege University. A good 2 bedroom flat can be rented for 400 YTL, while a good 3 bedroom flat will be around 600 YTL.

Notice that 600 YTL or even 400 YTL (205 EUR) is pretty serious money in Turkish standarts. As a poor school teacher a 600 YTL flat would cost me more than half of my monthly income in Turkia. This is why some school teachers are selling lemons on vegetable bazaars on weekends. When I was working in Tukia I haven't sold lemons but I haven't lived in a 600 or 400 YTL flat either.

15.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 28 May 2006 Sun 12:42 pm

Thanks, great I'll have a look at it after breakfast. Thanks a million.

And actually I'm looking for the smallest appartment as possible A 1 bedroom one would be fine, because we hope it to be temporary.


I think I will really have to get used to the money-standards in Türkiye, because I don't want to seem like a rich girl who gets everything just by clapping her hands. Because for Duthc standards we're pretty average.. and instead of sellign lemons, i work in a restaurant and i babysit twice a week.. so..

16.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 28 May 2006 Sun 12:53 pm

There even was an appartment for 250 YTL Well anyway..

Is it in Türkiye usual/possible to erhm.. i don't knwo the word.. to discuss about the price? If the owner says: 600 a month, can you try to pull it down to like.. 400-500 ?

Or is that not usual when it comes to estates?

17.       erdinc
2151 posts
 28 May 2006 Sun 07:30 pm

You can try haggling but it won't make a big difference. There are two types of landlords. One are the ones who know about the property prices. They will ask for a fair price and if you are bargaining the price might go slightly down. The second type are the ones who are too optimistic for their property. They are very unreasonable on prices. They will rather keep the place empty for 4 months and lose more money than renting it for a little cheaper. At the end it depends.

I must warn you on the fact that there are more crazy people among landlords than the average of Turkish people.

I would suggest looking for many different places to get an idea on prices. This way you will understand what a reasonable price is or isn't.

I wish you good luck on your search for a one bedroom or studio flat in Bornova or anywhere in İzmir. As a single man who prefered to live alone I have looked and looked for these kind small flats for many years. Generally speaking, in Turkia there is almost no such thing as a single person living alone. I don't know the statistics but if 30% of German women between 25 and 35 are living alone then the number is 1/100 of this in Turkia.

There are very few males who live alone and for females the number is even less. Of course there are some people like me who insist but compared to European countries singles living alone in Turkia in percentage to the population are next to nothing. There are very few small flats designed for singles. Some studio flats are designed for the very posh show offs who live an European lifestyle and they are more expensive than an average 3+1 house. Other small flats will be designed for doorkeepers on apartments. It's hard to find just a normal one bedroom or studio flat.

Sometimes you see a two bedroom flat which is nice and clean. It costs around 350YTL and you know that it's too big for a single person. You convince yourself that there must be smillar flats that are the same quality but smaller and thus cheaper but belive me there aren't.

Lack of small flat's is a huge problem for Turkish singles living alone, but it's not the only one. I had some annoying experiences on shops a few times. When I used to live alone I was shopping for myself only and a silly sellesperson didn't agree to sell me half a kilo fish. He told me it was too less to sell. He asked me what I would do with half a kilo of fish. He said it wouldn't be enough for nobody. He said I should buy at least a kilo. I was telling him that I was living alone and didn't need one kilo fish. Anyway, at the end I couldn't buy fish.
It is the same with vegetables. If you buy any vegetable only half a kilo they will look at you as if you were very poor. Supermarkets are less annoying for this reason since you don't interact with the people directly. But that's not always the case for all supermarkets.

Some supermarkets employ a greengrocer. You tell him what you want and what amounth you want and the person brings it to you. Modern supermarkets are not always very close.

I think you will find Turkia less annoying. You are not going to stay long enough to drive yourself crazy with the small things and traditional lifestles around you.

I hope this gives you an idea what you should expect from living alone.

18.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 28 May 2006 Sun 08:01 pm

Thank you for your informing post Well the fact is, probably half of the time i will live in Kadir's house and he will live in mine the other half of the time. I think that basically spoken, I won't be alone too much. The reason I decided not to move in together immediately is.. we barely saw each other yet and getting used to each others 24/7 company will be difficult, seeing i will also face other life-style-change-problems and the language barrier. Plus i will keep my independence and i can more easily be alone when i need to be alone in this way. But because I was always being taken care of by my mum, i have no idea how to live on my own. So being close to Kadir will be perfect for teaching me how to be responsible for my own maintainance, without falling into traps n stuff.
And he lives together with his best friend Gökhan now. I think i should give him a fair time to let him get used to the fact I'm around much too.. and i don't want to steal his 'lifepartner' away as soon as i get there.

I don't need a one bedroom flat in particular, a 2 bedroom one is fine too. But i was figuring: the smaller the cheaper and the easier to keep it clean.

If I wasn't going to go all on my own to Türkiye and if i would have a good share of girlfriends there, i would never consider living all by myself. But all Kadir's female friends already live together or still live with their parents in Izmir. So actually this is the only option. Many (Turkish, especially male) people have reacted with shock that a young western girl is planning to live there all by herself. I keep wondering if I am too naive or if they keep forgetting that Kadir will be there for me to take care and see when things might go wrong.

Erdinç, once again thanks for the information 350ytl sounds like an amount of money that my parents could afford for my rent.

19.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 04:46 pm

Once again, thanks everybody for their help. I found a suitable appartment. Well, Kadir found it it's on the first floor of his own building, which is the perfect situation!

It has two bedrooms, a living room, a kitchen, a bathroom and two balconies with view over the Izmir-bay
It already has carpet and woodenfloors, the kitchen is quite new with oven and the doors and windows are safety-locked with iron-bars. The price is really good and my dad is now on his way to the bank to send the money for september's rent, the commission and the deposit.

I am very happy as it gives me the possibility to learn to live on my own, but I'll be close to Kadir, so I will never be really alone or helpless. My mum was very happy about the Siemens-oven, but the poor thing is that I don't know how to cook anything to put in it

Lots of work to be done, but at least I have a nice place to live, from the day that I get there

20.       Seticio
550 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 05:06 pm

You sre very lucky, deli_kizin that your parents will pay for you during your stay in Turkey. i will go to Turkey to university for 5 months and I will have to pay for everything myslef. And only a student's hostel will cost 500YTL per month ( or 90$ if I choose state hostel with hot water once a week during the winter)...

21.       Elisa
0 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 05:07 pm

I wish you all the luck there Esther!

But errm, let me give you some advice: do something about those cooking skills
It improves social contacts, and it's good for the luvvv..

22.       Elisa
0 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 05:19 pm

Quoting Seticio:

You sre very lucky, deli_kizin that your parents will pay for you during your stay in Turkey. i will go to Turkey to university for 5 months and I will have to pay for everything myslef. And only a student's hostel will cost 500YTL per month ( or 90$ if I choose state hostel with hot water once a week during the winter)...



Damn, that is something else.. :-S
Good luck to you too Seticio

23.       Seticio
550 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 05:22 pm

?

Quote:

Damn, that is something else..


what is something else?

24.       Elisa
0 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 05:32 pm

Quoting Seticio:

?

Quote:

Damn, that is something else..


what is something else?



Well, I first read Deli_K's post, then yours, and the situations are quite different..
Then again, with all due respect Deli_K, but I think yours is rather an exception.. you are a lucky girl indeed..

Anyway, I wish the both of you a great experience.

25.       Seticio
550 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 05:36 pm

Well. 370 euros, which Deli_kizin finds low, will be my whole scholarship there...And almost whole money I will have there...I'm lucky because I can go there, but unfortunately my parents can't help me much...

26.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 05:54 pm

Quoting Seticio:

Well. 370 euros, which Deli_kizin finds low, will be my whole scholarship there...And almost whole money I will have there...I'm lucky because I can go there, but unfortunately my parents can't help me much...



The point in my situation is: I don't get a scolarship at all! And being 18 and just finishing highschool, means I haven't got my own income.

So far, the money I get, will be paid by my parents. If everything goes well and they understand that living tehre is successfull for me, the money will be a gift: in Holland they would pay my education as well. It's more expensive in Holland, studying and living, so for my parents this is financially even positive. (not that much but each bit counts). If it doesn't go so well and if the chances to find a job are not that good, but I still want to stay, I have to pay back the money to them when I finish university.
So It means I have some sort of 'parental loan', which can turn out into a gift if I proove that all is going well with me.

I do realize I'm an exception. I'm lucky to have parents who are willing to support me in such an 'adventure' without knowing their money is well-spent. But they know I worked hard for it too: I've had a part-time job through out the year and I will use that money to furnish my house and pay for my course. More I can't do. If I got a scolarship, my parents would only have to pay half of what they need to pay now. but unfortunately, Holland doesn;t grant scolarships for Turkey.

27.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 05:58 pm

Quoting Seticio:

Well. 370 euros, which Deli_kizin finds low, will be my whole scholarship there...And almost whole money I will have there...I'm lucky because I can go there, but unfortunately my parents can't help me much...



And please don't misunderstand me.. 370 euros is a lot of money. But in Holland, a student needs around 600 euros each month to provide a living! So in my case, 370 euros to live from each month, is low, compared to what I would need if I stayed here.

I tried to go into a student's hostel too, but because I don't get a scolarship, they don't accept me tehre. This is the reason I started looking for an appartment. I pay 450 YTL for it, but electricity and those things are not included.

Thank you for your advice Elisa I'm already working on it But one of my friends in Turkey, Didem, she can nearly cook anything! So I think I'll take weekly lessons with her

28.       Seticio
550 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 06:00 pm

I understand you. If I hadn't got this scholarship, I couldn't go to Turkey at all. I also have a part time job and work at weekends, I understand you very well. You are lucky, because you parents are able to help you and because you come from Holland too

29.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 06:03 pm

Quoting Seticio:

I understand you. If I hadn't got this scholarship, I couldn't go to Turkey at all. I also have a part time job and work at weekends, I understand you very well. You are lucky, because you parents are able to help you and because you come from Holland too



At least you managed to make this come true

I sent you a PM, maybe its nice to exchange some ideas about living in Türkiye.

30.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 06:44 pm

the price of flats depend on the place where the flat is situated.My friends has a flat 130m2 (3+1) near the metro station in bornova and pays 250 New turkish liras for one months.he is lucky but around him the prices are between 400-600 new turkish liras for a month.But if you wanna find a cheaper place,you should look for in ''Ataturk mahallesi'' where is abit away from sea.

31.       Myra
92 posts
 29 Aug 2006 Tue 02:11 pm

Hi Lyndi
I was just reading about your reply for accommodation and i was reading about the place in Mersin that one could buy for 1000 British Pounds. Do u still have some details about this place as i am intersted to buy there - but nobody can tell me anything about Mersin and this good price for an apartment.
I would appreciate it if u could send me details if possible.
Kind regards
Myra

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