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1.       elfod
12 posts
 25 Sep 2005 Sun 03:54 pm

Hi i live in Fethiye. Today as me and my husband were walking along we passed a wedding. There were two men playing drums and two playing flutes/whistle type instraments. As we approched one of the drumers walked upto us asking for money.
Is it custom to give money to them or were they just trying it on as we are English?
Thanks

2.       x-man
60 posts
 25 Sep 2005 Sun 04:12 pm

If u had an invitation from the people getting married,yes u have to give just some money.I mean something like 1 New Turkish Lira.Its tradition...

But if u are just passing the road,no need to give money

Is it ok?

3.       Lyndie
968 posts
 25 Sep 2005 Sun 10:50 pm

I went to a turkish wedding - it was great, we all lined up at the end and pinned our wedding gifts of money to the brides dress and then as we passed we got little gifts of biscuits and sweets all wrapped up like the 'favours' we have at English weddings. it was very nice. The girls all got together and did a special dance which involved dancing around with a jug of some description (as I recall)

4.       elfod
12 posts
 01 Oct 2005 Sat 01:46 pm

Thanks x-man

5.       Bursali
400 posts
 01 Oct 2005 Sat 03:42 pm

hes it is tradition to give some money.

6.       erdinc
2151 posts
 01 Oct 2005 Sat 06:22 pm

I disagree. They shouldnt ask for money from a stranger.

This certainly was rude by the musicians. I personally wouldnt give any money in this situation. After all I'm just passing by, right?

Many of the street musicians in Türkiye are Gypsies who neither know about traditions nor are very polite.

If they insist I would say "Allah versin" (God shall help you) or I would give the smallest money possinle, 5 Kuruş.

In general there is no Turkish tradion in which you give something when asked. In all tradions we got you can give something (including money) as a gift if it comes from your heart.


7.       x-man
60 posts
 01 Oct 2005 Sat 07:34 pm

Erdinc,they ask about wedding not gypsies on the road...

8.       erdinc
2151 posts
 01 Oct 2005 Sat 08:40 pm

Yes I know. I thought it was a wedding of local villagers of Fethiye. If thats the case it is possible that the gypsies (roman) were playing in the wedding.
But it is also possible it was only davul and zurna played by local farmers.


9.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 24 Nov 2005 Thu 12:52 am

Quoting Bursali:

tradition to give some money.



do u think its bcoz they feel sorry for you?? hehe


no im just kiddin.. i know its tradition.. and a great one too!!... in england we get people £4.99 kettles out of the argos sale haha

10.       laura
60 posts
 27 Nov 2005 Sun 12:36 pm

I was in Antalya last week and there was a wedding. A guy was trying to stop various cars. I asked my friend (turkish) what he wanted and he told me he was trying to get some money as it was a wedding. We drove on withut stopping!

Laura

11.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 12 Dec 2005 Mon 07:27 pm

Quoting laura:

I was in Antalya last week and there was a wedding. A guy was trying to stop various cars. I asked my friend (turkish) what he wanted and he told me he was trying to get some money as it was a wedding. We drove on withut stopping!

Laura



omg.. have u ever walked passed a beggar asking for money without even looking at them...?? some people tell me that they are not really poor and homeless.. they are just lying a**holes who want u for what they can get..
but..
after i told a small, dirty looking girl selling tissues that i had no money when my pocket was full of fresh new liras.. i felt really guilty... and then i wanted to go and find her.. bless her... im bad eh?.. how could i do that... im just cruel sometimes omg...

12.       deli
5904 posts
 12 Dec 2005 Mon 08:22 pm

if its kids i cant walk by although its probably their parents that have sent them out on the streets anyway, fortunately where i live there arnt too many child beggers on the street but when i have been in turkey i have always given to the kids i cant bare the thought of children going without and to me it may only be a pound or two but for them it is a fortune ,maybe i am just a bit of a softy at heart

13.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 12 Dec 2005 Mon 08:23 pm

Quoting deli:

if its kids i cant walk by although its probably their parents that have sent them out on the streets anyway, fortunately where i live there arnt too many child beggers on the street but when i have been in turkey i have always given to the kids i cant bare the thought of children going without and to me it may only be a pound or two but for them it is a fortune ,maybe i am just a bit of a softy at heart



i now feel so much worse... o dear.. the guilt is killing me. she could be dead now.. i should have bought a packet of those little tissues...aaa... not even 1 lira... im terrible eh?

14.       Lindaxxx
230 posts
 12 Dec 2005 Mon 08:31 pm

I would have to give if it was a child....it would play on my mind, and I would be wondering if the money was for food for that night. It would be very hard to walk away from that.

15.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 12 Dec 2005 Mon 08:33 pm

Quoting Lindaxxx:

I would have to give if it was a child....it would play on my mind, and I would be wondering if the money was for food for that night. It would be very hard to walk away from that.



you are really making me feel better.. thanks :'( and i am still thinking about it months later, look..! that damn conscience of mine... i thought id told that where to go a long time ago!

16.       Lindaxxx
230 posts
 12 Dec 2005 Mon 08:41 pm

Quoting miss_ceyda:

Quoting Lindaxxx:

I would have to give if it was a child....it would play on my mind, and I would be wondering if the money was for food for that night. It would be very hard to walk away from that.



you are really making me feel better.. thanks :'( and i am still thinking about it months later, look..! that damn conscience of mine... i thought id told that where to go a long time ago!



At least you think about it, that is good. I don't want to make you feel bad about it. I was just saying that I would find it hard to walk from a child. An adult on the other hand, I wouldn't give a second look to. An adult is not helpless unlike a child.

17.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 12 Dec 2005 Mon 08:43 pm

yeah but what about the ones who sit there with like, 1 limb...? :S

18.       Lindaxxx
230 posts
 12 Dec 2005 Mon 08:48 pm

Quoting miss_ceyda:

yeah but what about the ones who sit there with like, 1 limb...? :S



Again that is different I think that you just have to go with your instinct at the time. When I was in Tunis I had people begging for the shoes off my feet! I used to hate going out of the complex and having to face so much poverty, I used to want to cry every time.

19.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 12 Dec 2005 Mon 08:57 pm

Quoting Lindaxxx:

Quoting miss_ceyda:

yeah but what about the ones who sit there with like, 1 limb...? :S



Again that is different I think that you just have to go with your instinct at the time. When I was in Tunis I had people begging for the shoes off my feet! I used to hate going out of the complex and having to face so much poverty, I used to want to cry every time.



i was like that the first time i went to tr.. it was the first time id seen beggars like that.. and so many limbless people.. do they all live in tr or sth.?? hehe...

20.       Lindaxxx
230 posts
 12 Dec 2005 Mon 09:01 pm

Quoting miss_ceyda:

Quoting Lindaxxx:

Quoting miss_ceyda:

yeah but what about the ones who sit there with like, 1 limb...? :S



Again that is different I think that you just have to go with your instinct at the time. When I was in Tunis I had people begging for the shoes off my feet! I used to hate going out of the complex and having to face so much poverty, I used to want to cry every time.



i was like that the first time i went to tr.. it was the first time id seen beggars like that.. and so many limbless people.. do they all live in tr or sth.?? hehe...



I shouldn't laugh at that ceyda but I did naughty me!!!

21.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 12 Dec 2005 Mon 09:05 pm

Quoting Lindaxxx:

Quoting miss_ceyda:

Quoting Lindaxxx:

Quoting miss_ceyda:

yeah but what about the ones who sit there with like, 1 limb...? :S



Again that is different I think that you just have to go with your instinct at the time. When I was in Tunis I had people begging for the shoes off my feet! I used to hate going out of the complex and having to face so much poverty, I used to want to cry every time.



i was like that the first time i went to tr.. it was the first time id seen beggars like that.. and so many limbless people.. do they all live in tr or sth.?? hehe...



I shouldn't laugh at that ceyda but I did naughty me!!!



yeah.. i shouldnt have laughed either... our humour is very black dontcha think?

22.       ramayan
2633 posts
 12 Dec 2005 Mon 09:45 pm

i now can clearly understand why ceyda choose a turkısh guy.....cheap and free holiday in turkey....nice...she is wise...hahahaha

23.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 12 Dec 2005 Mon 09:46 pm

Quoting ramayan:

i now can clearly understand why ceyda choose a turkısh guy.....cheap and free holiday in turkey....nice...she is wise...hahahaha



you make me sound so harsh... (A) im not really (A) hihi

24.       ramayan
2633 posts
 12 Dec 2005 Mon 09:51 pm

Quoting miss_ceyda:

Quoting ramayan:

i now can clearly understand why ceyda choose a turkısh guy.....cheap and free holiday in turkey....nice...she is wise...hahahaha



you make me sound so harsh... (A) im not really (A) hihi


ne var kızdın mı????

25.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 12 Dec 2005 Mon 09:52 pm

YOKKKKK

26.       ramayan
2633 posts
 15 Dec 2005 Thu 10:44 pm

Quoting miss_ceyda:

YOKKKKK




yani kızdıysan buz olayı falan var ona girelim.....ehehehehe

27.       Boop
785 posts
 16 Dec 2005 Fri 02:14 am

If you want to give - give
If you don't - don't

You shouldn't feel pressured and you shouldn't feel guilty.

I always think that for every 3 false beggars there is probably 1 needy one - 1 out of 3 isn't bad is it?

28.       ishtar7
46 posts
 17 Dec 2005 Sat 06:18 pm

in my country we give money in wedding instead of flower or other gifts, even its written clearly on the invitation card that they will appreciate it if u give money better than other things.

i only give money to beggar if i have extra money , eg. when my parents (surprisingly) give me money or when i got bonus from office or when my overtime is paid. the more u give the more u get, is true...once i sent money to my lil bro and next day i got 2x from office

29.       sophie
2712 posts
 18 Dec 2005 Sun 11:36 am

Quoting Boop:

If you want to give - give
If you don't - don't

You shouldn't feel pressured and you shouldn't feel guilty.

I always think that for every 3 false beggars there is probably 1 needy one - 1 out of 3 isn't bad is it?



i do the same. i can never turn my back to them, even if i know that some of them have more money than i have.
here, the favorite places of beggars are the churches and the traffic lights. u can see so many kids, even in winter, without shoes, with no heavy clothes, freezing and crying for a euro.
"begging industry" is the most profitable bussiness in greece. the government advices that we shouldn't give money to these kids, cause when we do, we encourage their parents to send them out in the streets more. If we stopped, they say, these kids would be staying at home, safe. but this is not true. their parents abuse them anyway. and if they stop sending them out to beg, they ll definately send them out to steal. and...can u say no to a 5 year old kid who is begging u for a few cents?
my kid has everything. and i feel guilty for that, whenever i see those poor people in the streets. so, the least i can do is to give a euro or two to each. even if they are not really poor, they deserve those euros, for the cold and the humiliation they suffer out there.

30.       ramayan
2633 posts
 19 Dec 2005 Mon 12:00 pm

Quoting sophie:

Quoting Boop:

If you want to give - give
If you don't - don't

You shouldn't feel pressured and you shouldn't feel guilty.

I always think that for every 3 false beggars there is probably 1 needy one - 1 out of 3 isn't bad is it?



i do the same. i can never turn my back to them, even if i know that some of them have more money than i have.
here, the favorite places of beggars are the churches and the traffic lights. u can see so many kids, even in winter, without shoes, with no heavy clothes, freezing and crying for a euro.
"begging industry" is the most profitable bussiness in greece. the government advices that we shouldn't give money to these kids, cause when we do, we encourage their parents to send them out in the streets more. If we stopped, they say, these kids would be staying at home, safe. but this is not true. their parents abuse them anyway. and if they stop sending them out to beg, they ll definately send them out to steal. and...can u say no to a 5 year old kid who is begging u for a few cents?
my kid has everything. and i feel guilty for that, whenever i see those poor people in the streets. so, the least i can do is to give a euro or two to each. even if they are not really poor, they deserve those euros, for the cold and the humiliation they suffer out there.



yes u should never turn ur back to them............

31.       ishtar7
46 posts
 19 Dec 2005 Mon 03:31 pm

here...some beggars -kids- r organized by a fat (real fat) woman watching them in the corner of the street.

32.       sophie
2712 posts
 19 Dec 2005 Mon 03:36 pm

Quoting ishtar7:

here...some beggars -kids- r organized by a fat (real fat) woman watching them in the corner of the street.



fat or not, there is always somebody watching them behind the corner. and she/he is not doing it to check if they are ok

33.       Boop
785 posts
 19 Dec 2005 Mon 03:40 pm

Very sad, hard life for some little kids...

Makes me feel bad - and

34.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 22 Dec 2005 Thu 08:51 pm

the poor little child wasnt even begging.. she was selling these really cute tissues... im gonna burn in hell for that... damn me...

35.       ramayan
2633 posts
 23 Dec 2005 Fri 11:19 am

Quoting miss_ceyda:

the poor little child wasnt even begging.. she was selling these really cute tissues... im gonna burn in hell for that... damn me...



sure...u will burn...hehe and i will augh u as always...hehehhe....anyway.....hehehe...care urself at least dis world...ehehhehe

36.       Lyndie
968 posts
 23 Dec 2005 Fri 11:46 am

When I was in Izmir once in the winter, there was a really old lady sitting in the snow on just a thin blanket begging, she must have been 80 years old. i gave her YTL20. My friend went mad. He said that she was rich and had more money than we did, because he had seen people like her on TV.

I said that even if that were true, she deserved the money just for sitting there freezing her a*** off in the snow.

I asked him why he believed everything on TV, and he said 'why not?' - I think the authorities say these things to stop themselves feeling guilty about the fact that social care is so bad in Turkey that 80 year olds have to sit in the snow begging!

Maybe she should get a job heh? 80 years old - Let's see what could she do....hmmm...all suggestions welcome!

Begging is a job like anything else, if you get an income and suffer in some way for it. I don't think little kids should do anything at all but play games and go to school. I don't think old people should do anything but eat, drink, be warm, have someone to love them and anything else they feel like!

37.       ramayan
2633 posts
 23 Dec 2005 Fri 01:49 pm

Quoting Lyndie:


ummm..yes its an industry ...u know turkiye is also developing country.....so...we r also industrialising.....many industry....begging is just one of them....

38.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 23 Dec 2005 Fri 02:55 pm

Quoting ramayan:

Quoting miss_ceyda:

the poor little child wasnt even begging.. she was selling these really cute tissues... im gonna burn in hell for that... damn me...



sure...u will burn...hehe and i will augh u as always...hehehhe....anyway.....hehehe...care urself at least dis world...ehehhehe



if u will laugh at me i think that it implies u will also be in hell hihi

39.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 23 Dec 2005 Fri 02:56 pm

Quoting Lyndie:

When I was in Izmir once in the winter, there was a really old lady sitting in the snow on just a thin blanket begging, she must have been 80 years old. i gave her YTL20. My friend went mad. He said that she was rich and had more money than we did, because he had seen people like her on TV.

I said that even if that were true, she deserved the money just for sitting there freezing her a*** off in the snow.

I asked him why he believed everything on TV, and he said 'why not?' - I think the authorities say these things to stop themselves feeling guilty about the fact that social care is so bad in Turkey that 80 year olds have to sit in the snow begging!

Maybe she should get a job heh? 80 years old - Let's see what could she do....hmmm...all suggestions welcome!

Begging is a job like anything else, if you get an income and suffer in some way for it. I don't think little kids should do anything at all but play games and go to school. I don't think old people should do anything but eat, drink, be warm, have someone to love them and anything else they feel like!



lyndie.. aferin jnm ya.. that was very well put... i couldnt agree more

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