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1&2 T-E, T-E very short plzz
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10.       Abla
1595 posts
 09 Jan 2012 Mon 05:08 pm

Oh, I see it in your link. Sorry.

11.       gokuyum
1948 posts
 09 Jan 2012 Mon 05:14 pm

 

Quoting Abla

But what is the dative -e doing in ´soldier´?

Good question. I was about to write about it.

Ex: Bana mektup yazdırdı.

He made me write a letter.

 

In English me is the direct object of the main sentence.

But in Turkish it is indirect object of the sentence. Mektup is the direct object.

 

But this causes some confussions for me.When I look at the sentence I also catch this kind of a meaning: "Bana mektup yazdırttı" "He made someone write a letter to me". And if I add someone into the sentence it is a little weird. "Birisine bana mektup yazdırttı."

 



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12.       Abla
1595 posts
 09 Jan 2012 Mon 05:47 pm

But what if there was no direct object? If it was an intransitive verb? In that case the actor would become a direct object, isn´t it?

                   Beni ağlattı. ´He made me cry.´

13.       Abla
1595 posts
 09 Jan 2012 Mon 06:21 pm

And

              Bana bir ırmak ağlattı ´He made my cry a river´

respectively...

14.       gokuyum
1948 posts
 09 Jan 2012 Mon 06:53 pm

 

Quoting Abla

But what if there was no direct object? If it was an intransitive verb? In that case the actor would become a direct object, isn´t it?

                   Beni ağlattı. ´He made me cry.´

(O) beni ağlattı. Actor is "o". "beni" is the object.

 

15.       scalpel
1467 posts
 09 Jan 2012 Mon 07:48 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

Good question. I was about to write about it.

Ex: Bana mektup yazdırdı.

He made me write a letter.

 

In English me is the direct object of the main sentence.

But in Turkish it is indirect object of the sentence. Mektup is the direct object.

 

But this causes some confussions for me.When I look at the sentence I also catch this kind of a meaning: "Bana mektup yazdırttı" "He made someone write a letter to me". And if I add someone into the sentence it is a little weird. "Birisine bana mektup yazdırttı."

 

 

That´s true that "it is a little weird". 

I think for me (benim için ) instead of to me (bana ) solves the problem in the sentence..

It should be a prepositional adjunct with için :

Birisine, benim için mektup yazdırdı .

IO.....noun/pro+için...DO ....vt + subject

 

 

16.       Abla
1595 posts
 09 Jan 2012 Mon 07:56 pm

yaz|dır|t|tı  -  double causative?

17.       scalpel
1467 posts
 09 Jan 2012 Mon 08:06 pm

 

Quoting Abla

yaz|dır|t|tı  -  double causative?

 

Yes..

18.       gokuyum
1948 posts
 09 Jan 2012 Mon 11:43 pm

 

Quoting scalpel

 

 

That´s true that "it is a little weird". 

I think for me (benim için ) instead of to me (bana ) solves the problem in the sentence..

It should be a prepositional adjunct with için :

Birisine, benim için mektup yazdırdı .

IO.....noun/pro+için...DO ....vt + subject

 

 

Yes, it is a good solution

 

19.       Kelebek
756 posts
 10 Jan 2012 Tue 12:39 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

Yes, it is a good solution

 

 

great practices guys..but anyone willing to translate my number 2. sentence e-t plz? thanksss

20.       scalpel
1467 posts
 10 Jan 2012 Tue 02:48 pm

 

Quoting Kelebek

 

 

great practices guys..but anyone willing to translate my number 2. sentence e-t plz? thanksss

=> Askerliğin bitsin öyle görüşelim..

 

 

 

 

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