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10.       cim
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 14 Jun 2012 Thu 04:22 am

"üstünde durmak" to stay on top

"sözünde durmak"  to keep his word

"arkasında durmak"   to stay in back, to watch his back

"yerinde durmak" to be polite

"zamanında durmak"  hold to a schedule

"iyi durmak" or "kötü durmak" to remain good or bad

"karşı durmak" to continue opposing

"kayıtsız durmak" to remain indifferent

 

It would seem that saying "kayıtsız kalmak" would have been more 

reasonable to avoid the possibility of being "to stop being indifferent."

From AlphaF´s second post it would also seem that "kayıtsız, durmak" 

would be the way to say "to stop being indifferent."  If that is so, then

it would appear that a comma is important for meaning, much more

than in English where is usually, but not always, a way of improving the

flow of the sentence.

So "üstünde, durmak" would become "to stop on top of it," etc.

11.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 14 Jun 2012 Thu 08:55 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

"Durmak" basically means to stop or to remain in a given state continiously with no change,

"Gülüp duruyor" implies that the subject remains in a state of continious laughing, with no change. Clear?

 

Any idea what "üstünde durmak" might mean ? to insist on something, to pay particular attention to something

 

"sözünde durmak" ? to keep one´s word

"arkasında durmak" ?  (literally and as an idiom) Literally. to stand behind something: Figuratively, to support something

"yerinde durmak" ? Literally to stop at the right place: Figuratively, to stop at the correct point (one more word, step or action could have been detrimental) 

"zamanında durmak" ? Literally to stop at the right moment: Figuratively, to stop at the correct time (one more word, step or action could have been detrimental)

"iyi durmak" or "kötü durmak" ? to look good (ex. Elbisesi üzerinde çok iyi duruyordu) and to look bad.

"karşı durmak" ? to oppose

"kayıtsız durmak" ? to look (appear) uninterested

 

 

 

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12.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 14 Jun 2012 Thu 03:10 pm

 Agree .. it is just a form that you learn at upper-intermediate or advanced.

 

Quoting Abla

 

This is an in-depth question.

 

Some language units can easily be understood as the sum of their addends. Basic, concrete meanings of noun cases, primary uses of verb tenses belong to this category. But in every language there are more abstract expressions whose meaning you can´t figure out only by means of addition. Call them idioms if you like.

 

-ip durmak ´continue´ is a phrase which you have to learn as a whole. The same way you may not find the concrete definition of ablative in -meden ´without doing´. There certainly are reasons for these uses but they are so far in the history of language it is no use for a learner to look for them. Just learn them.

 

 

13.       cim
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 14 Jun 2012 Thu 05:43 pm

Thanks to all for the helpful comments. I agree with the forms that simply have to be learned. I suppose that DURMAK is one of those words that has been corrupted to mean cease/continue, perhaps a little like HIÇ (ever/never )being used for emphasis and depending on context. Used alone, DURMAK seems to be stop, otherwise its meaning becomes less precise, and a literal translation fails.

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