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1.       AdnanDayya
11 posts
 02 Jul 2013 Tue 05:36 am

- Süregelmek, Bakakalmak, gidedurmak.

- Bakıp durmak, donup kalmak

There are verbs like these that are a combination of 2 verbs, usually the last verb is either "kal, gel, dur, git" and they come in 2 forms. now I know some of them but if anyone can explain them so I would understand what they mean without memorizing them I´d be very thankful..

2.       AdnanDayya
11 posts
 02 Jul 2013 Tue 06:06 am

all I know is that these verbs explain the continuity of something happening or being done..

3.       si++
3785 posts
 02 Jul 2013 Tue 09:17 am

For some insight:

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_20929

4.       si++
3785 posts
 02 Jul 2013 Tue 09:33 am

 

Quoting AdnanDayya

- Süregelmek, Bakakalmak, gidedurmak.

- Bakıp durmak, donup kalmak

There are verbs like these that are a combination of 2 verbs, usually the last verb is either "kal, gel, dur, git" and they come in 2 forms. now I know some of them but if anyone can explain them so I would understand what they mean without memorizing them I´d be very thankful..

 

V + -a/-e is a gerundive construction and acts like an adverb to the main verb.

 

süregelmek < sür-e gelmek = to come (or reach to current moment) by cotinuing

bakakalmak < bak-a kalmak = (for one) to stay (where he is) by looking (at something for a long time) (usually as a result of some surprise)

 

gidedurmak < gid-e durmak = to stay by going, to be in state of going (in progress)

 

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5.       Abla
3647 posts
 02 Jul 2013 Tue 12:59 pm

The constructions you wrote are on the path of grammaticalization and their meaning is predictable. But you have certainly noticed Turkish is a language rich with idioms, so we have many constructions of the type V1 + V2 to learn. By heart, there is no other way.

6.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Jul 2013 Tue 05:01 pm

 

Quoting Abla

The constructions you wrote are on the path of grammaticalization and their meaning is predictable. But you have certainly noticed Turkish is a language rich with idioms, so we have many constructions of the type V1 + V2 to learn. By heart, there is no other way.

 

Correct...GİDEYAZMAK is another verb of similar form and does not imply an action in progress.

GİDEYAZMAK (gidecek gibi olmak) = just about to go

I would not recommend learners to make long lists of such verbs to memorize. Just learn them as they come up !



Edited (7/2/2013) by AlphaF

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