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1.       trip
297 posts
 30 Sep 2014 Tue 01:08 pm

Merhabalar! This is probably a stupid question, but I need help with a word that I can´t find in the dictionary. Or perhaps it is a name? It is either "mişli" or "miş´li." I have seen it both ways. The latter way makes me think it might be a construction containing a name? The word is from a Bülent Ortaçgil song titled "Bozburun." Here is the line:

Mişli geçmişte sorunlar saklanır.

Problems are hidden (kept?) in the past. Yes? But then I am lost.

Teşekkürler!


2.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 30 Sep 2014 Tue 02:44 pm

 

Quoting trip

Merhabalar! This is probably a stupid question, but I need help with a word that I can´t find in the dictionary. Or perhaps it is a name? It is either "mişli" or "miş´li." I have seen it both ways. The latter way makes me think it might be a construction containing a name? The word is from a Bülent Ortaçgil song titled "Bozburun." Here is the line:

Mişli geçmişte sorunlar saklanır.

Problems are hidden (kept?) in the past. Yes? But then I am lost.

Teşekkürler!


Hi Trip,

As you know in Turkish there are two past tense forms. One is -di´li geçmiş zaman and the other one is miş´li geçmiş zaman.

 

Check this lesson out --> http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_76

 

 

 

 



Edited (9/30/2014) by Umut_Umut

3.       denizli
961 posts
 30 Sep 2014 Tue 03:40 pm

 

Quoting Umut_Umut

 

Hi Trip,

As you know in Turkish there are two past tense forms. One is -di´li geçmiş zaman and the other one is miş´li geçmiş zaman.

 

Check this lesson out --> http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_76

 

 

 

 

 

But, here Mişli is on it´s own, rather than a suffix.

 

I once thought I heard somone say nemiş or ne miş as if to say ´what was that?´. Is that correct? Otherwise I misunderstood.

4.       tunci
7149 posts
 30 Sep 2014 Tue 06:00 pm

 

Quoting denizli

 

 

But, here Mişli is on it´s own, rather than a suffix.

 

I once thought I heard somone say nemiş or ne miş as if to say ´what was that?´. Is that correct? Otherwise I misunderstood.

 

In the song the “song writer” didn’t actually mean grammatical tense – mişli geçmiş zaman. He/She basically refers to times in the past , times that passed long time ago.

 

Mişli geçmişte sorunlar saklanır.

The problems are hidden [kept] in the past [times]

 

 

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5.       tunci
7149 posts
 30 Sep 2014 Tue 06:16 pm

 

The title of your post should be “ Lütfen yardım edin !  or “ Yardım lütfen !!’’

We use  the exclamation word  “imdat” when we are in a serious danger, such as , if a fire broke out at home, we can say “imdat ! ” since it’s a serious danger.

 

* You can still use "yardım edin" along with "imdat" in serious dangers. However, you shouldn’t use "imdat" for asking simple help.

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6.       tunci
7149 posts
 30 Sep 2014 Tue 07:48 pm

 

Quoting denizli

 

 

 

 

I once thought I heard somone say nemiş or ne miş as if to say ´what was that?´. Is that correct? Otherwise I misunderstood.

 

Ne imiş ? =  Neymiş ? ----> What is it[that] ? 

A - Kadir  bir şey bulmuş.  ----> Kadir found something.

B -  Bulduğu şey neymiş ?  ---> What is that he found ?

-------------------------------------

Neydi ? ---> What was that ? 

O ses neydi  ? ---> What was that sound ?

--------------------------------------------------

 

Verb  of  essence  [ imek ]

 

The verb “imek” is called as “ verb of  essence” . It has different forms.

-idi, imiş

 

  1. imek ” may informs about a state or  a condition.

 

Otelin yatakları temiz + imiş -à Otelin yatakları temizmiş.

[ I was told that ] The beds of the hotel are  clean.

It is informing us  condition of  the hotel beds.

 

  1. The verb “imek”  comes onto  noun case endings.

 

Mektup biz + e + imiş --à Mektup bizeymiş.

[I was told that, I found out that , I heard that] The letter is for us.

 

3.      The verb “imek ” comes onto proper names.

 

              Rıza Bey + imiş.  --à Rıza Bey’miş.

              [I was told/I heard that ] It was Mr. Rıza.

 

        Ağaca tırmanan Orhan + idi -à Ağaca tırmanan Orhan’dı.

   The person who climed the tree was Orhan.

 

 

       4.    The verb imek” can come onto –lı  or  -sız   suffix.

 

               Duvar  boyalı + idi --à Duvar  boyalıy.

               The wall was painted.


               Bugün  neşesiz + idi. --à Bugün neşesizdi.

               You were down today.

 

5.      The verb “imek” can come onto “profession names ”.

 

Babam  denizci + idi  à Babam  denizciydi.

                My  father  was a sailor.



Edited (9/30/2014) by tunci

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7.       trip
297 posts
 01 Oct 2014 Wed 09:21 am

Quote: tunci

The title of your post should be “ Lütfen yardım edin !  or “ Yardım lütfen !!’’ We use  the exclamation word  “imdat” when we are in a serious danger, such as , if a fire broke out at home, we can say “imdat ! ” since it’s a serious danger.

 

Yes, I know you are right, tunci. But in my silly American way, I was trying to be funny and ironic. That is what the happy face was meant to indicate. "For silly me, this is an emergency! Come help me!"

Thank for you help on "mişli." I would never have figured it out on my own.

Çok teşekkür ederim!

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