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130.       slavica
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 19 Feb 2007 Mon 04:44 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Quoting slavica:

Quoting SuiGeneris:


Reading book is really important... whatever you are going to do... to get a viewpoint, to get vocabulary for writing and a style of speech maybe or writing style...
We have to read...



EXACTLY!

Taking care, of course, of WHAT do we read. Reading Dostoyevski and reading Daniela Still could never be the same



you have to read them aswell, to understand the difference between them aswell...



OK... maybe one or two, just to see difference

131.       reBooped
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 19 Feb 2007 Mon 05:00 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting slavica:

EXACTLY!

Taking care, of course, of WHAT do we read. Reading Dostoyevski and reading Daniela Still could never be the same



I dont know - even reading Danielle Steele is better than not reading at all! At least it develops a reading habit!




I agree -it is better to read anything than nothing... there should be no 'snobbery' attached to book selections - we all have different 'tastes'

132.       niobe
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 19 Feb 2007 Mon 11:50 pm

As Slavica said, Reading book is really important...
He who reads literature, enjoys arts, is a well-mannered, cultured and good person, according to scientists..

133.       Dilara
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 20 Feb 2007 Tue 05:06 am

Quoting slavica:

Quoting Dilara:


7 Veinte Poemas de amor y una canción desesperada (Pablo Neruda) - chilean poet-



It would be No. 1 on my list if we didn't talk of novels



Really?? I am glad you like Pablo Neruda as well ! but Chilean people has not actually realized HOW important he is in the Poetry Field all over the world! =(
According to me , however, the english translation of his poems are not very accurate , I just "feel" the real meaning of his words in spanish...well actually poetry is so hard to translate dont you think?
No matter how many times I read poem XX , I feel the same excitement and emotion! as we would say in spanish (I cant find the english words now ) ¡ Siento un nudo en la garganta !
His poetry is eternal to me ...
Dilara

134.       slavica
814 posts
 20 Feb 2007 Tue 09:45 pm

Quoting Dilara:

Quoting slavica:

Quoting Dilara:


7 Veinte Poemas de amor y una canción desesperada (Pablo Neruda) - chilean poet-



It would be No. 1 on my list if we didn't talk of novels



Really?? I am glad you like Pablo Neruda as well ! but Chilean people has not actually realized HOW important he is in the Poetry Field all over the world! =(
According to me , however, the english translation of his poems are not very accurate , I just 'feel' the real meaning of his words in spanish...well actually poetry is so hard to translate dont you think?
No matter how many times I read poem XX , I feel the same excitement and emotion! as we would say in spanish (I cant find the english words now ) ¡ Siento un nudo en la garganta !
His poetry is eternal to me ...
Dilara



Yes, Dilara, I am a big Pablo Neruda lover and I’m sure I share opinnion of all poetry lovers conceiving him one of the greatest world poets. His poems are real masterpieces and there is no anthology of love poetry without at least his poem XX (I Can Write the Saddest Poem Tonight). I just LOVE this poem and, as you said, no matter how many times I read it, I feel the same excitement. Unfortunately, I don’t understand Spanish, so I can only imagine how wonderful it sounds on it original language!

We have a topic about Pablo Neruda at Turkish Class which is – what a shame! – lost among General/Off topic after cleaning Poetry Forums of non-Turkish poetry. Now, not having proper moderators, we have masterpieces of our members in Poetry and Literature Category and great Pablo Neruda in Off topics

135.       slavica
814 posts
 20 Feb 2007 Tue 09:47 pm

Quoting reBooped:

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting slavica:

EXACTLY!

Taking care, of course, of WHAT do we read. Reading Dostoyevski and reading Daniela Still could never be the same



I dont know - even reading Danielle Steele is better than not reading at all! At least it develops a reading habit!




I agree -it is better to read anything than nothing... there should be no 'snobbery' attached to book selections - we all have different 'tastes'



With full respect for everyone’s taste, I can’t agree that it is better to read anything than nothing. Maybe Danielle Steele is not a good example, but there are so many books with no message, no meaning, books having just a bad influence to the reader, that it is bettter to read nothing than read them.

And it has nothing with „snoberry“ and „tastes“, but with the quality of the literature.

Just as food: tastes are different, yes, but some kinds of food are just not healthy... (quoting Duda )

136.       aenigma x
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 20 Feb 2007 Tue 10:07 pm

Haha! We will have to agree to disagree, Slavica. I believe reading is a habit which needs to be acquired and the more you read, the more likely you are to gravitate to the classics.

Personally, I would rather see a child reading an "unworthy" book than playing a computer game...

137.       Dilara
1153 posts
 20 Feb 2007 Tue 10:16 pm

Thank you Slavica! I cant believe Pablo Neruda is in "off topic" either! what other latin poets do you know or like?
Thank you for the link I will post more unknown information about Pablo Neruda and my personal translations of his poems on the thread dedicated to him which , I hope , one turkish native speaker can translate into turkish because I found several mistakes in the english translations.
You know for me being Chilean, It is a pleasure to see people from all over the world loving him who was born in a remote country like Chile!!
Dilara

138.       reBooped
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 21 Feb 2007 Wed 12:43 am

Quote:

Quote Slavica

And it has nothing with „snoberry“ and „tastes“, but with the quality of the literature.

Just as food: tastes are different, yes, but some kinds of food are just not healthy... (quoting Duda )




You and I shall have to agree to differ on this - reading is essential for all and is not just about quality of literature. For a non-reader the classics could seem very 'heavy' going and would put off many - whereas starting to read anything hopefully will develop a reading habit. Once someone starts to read for enjoyment, I believe that in time they will expand the kinds of books read - and probably 'progress'onto the classics.

139.       slavica
814 posts
 21 Feb 2007 Wed 02:32 am

Quoting Dilara:

what other latin poets do you know or like?



Gabriela Mistral, Borges, Octavio Paz... but I’m sure there are more valuable, but not very well known Latin American authors. Maybe you could introduce us to their works, Dilara, in a special topic, what do you say?

140.       slavica
814 posts
 21 Feb 2007 Wed 07:35 am

Quoting aenigma x:

Haha! We will have to agree to disagree, Slavica. I believe reading is a habit which needs to be acquired and the more you read, the more likely you are to gravitate to the classics.



Quoting reBooped:


You and I shall have to agree to differ on this - reading is essential for all and is not just about quality of literature. For a non-reader the classics could seem very 'heavy' going and would put off many - whereas starting to read anything hopefully will develop a reading habit. Once someone starts to read for enjoyment, I believe that in time they will expand the kinds of books read - and probably 'progress'onto the classics.



Come on, girls! I don’t insist on classics at all and I have absolutely nothing against reading for enjoyment. There are many valuable works among non-classic literature. But if you still insist that it is better to read ANYTHING than nothing – then I agree to disagree What’s wrong in having different oppinions?

Quoting aenigma x:


Personally, I would rather see a child reading an 'unworthy' book than playing a computer game...



Haha... absolutely agree! Except if the book is „How to kill your parents and live happily“

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