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Thousands pray for Istanbul landmark to become mosque
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20.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 31 May 2012 Thu 07:56 am

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

Nothing wrong with " we Moslems ´ taking  over Paris " The wrong thing is calling our people "idiots ".

 If you honestly believe there are no idiots among Muslims at all, you´ d better see a shrink.

 

21.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 31 May 2012 Thu 12:53 pm

 

Quoting ikicihan

Dome

Interior of the Hagia Sophia by John Singer Sargent, 1891
 

Thanks ikicihan. I love JSS (Carnation Lily Lily Rose in the Tate being my all time favourite) but I didn´t know he had done paintings of Istanbul. Will have to start exploring this on the web ...

22.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 31 May 2012 Thu 03:04 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

I didnt think he said "all muslims muslims are idiot ". when you say "our people", that needs to be explained..who are those "our people" ? and why you think they are idiot ? Calling group of people, community, or whatever, as "idiot" is wrong anyway..

 

 

I don´t think calling a group of ignorant people idiots is wrong. Idiots are idiots.

23.       tunci
7149 posts
 31 May 2012 Thu 03:47 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

I don´t think calling a group of ignorant people idiots is wrong. Idiots are idiots.

 

Ok. who is those "idiots" then ? The moslems who are intending to pray in Eiffel Tower ? If so, I cant see any "idiot " situation there .

24.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 31 May 2012 Thu 05:00 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

Ok. who is those "idiots" then ? The moslems who are intending to pray in Eiffel Tower ? If so, I cant see any "idiot " situation there .

 

Do you want their names and telephone numbers tunci? 

You have problems, if you can not see the idiocity in Moslems with intentions to make a Mescid out of Eiffel.

 

 

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25.       tunci
7149 posts
 31 May 2012 Thu 05:03 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

Do you want their names and telephone numbers tunci? 

You have problems, if you can not see the idiocity in Moslems with intentions to make a Mescid out of Eiffel.

 

 

 

Not making Mescid, but you can pray with "Seccade" in Eiffel Tower, as long as allowed. Not necessarly making Mescid in it. Praying [ Namaz] can be performed anywhere.

26.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 31 May 2012 Thu 05:11 pm

You are discussing about where to pray, I am thinking about if I will ever pray with this laziness God help me.

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27.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 31 May 2012 Thu 05:29 pm

Is it possible that when a group of people are called idiots that someone with the same affiliation may get their feelings hurt?  I don´t see how a public display prayer makes you an idiot.  It didn´t harm anyone and it is a form of self expression.  These people where not violently protesting or making any trouble.  To me this seemed like many people getting together to try to accomplish a goal through prayerful means.    



Edited (5/31/2012) by Elisabeth

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28.       bydand
755 posts
 31 May 2012 Thu 06:24 pm

Excellent post Elisabeth. You seem to be left holding the fort by yourself but you are doing an excellent job.



Edited (5/31/2012) by bydand

29.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 31 May 2012 Thu 07:01 pm

30.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 01 Jun 2012 Fri 10:49 am

 

Quoting Elisabeth

Is it possible that when a group of people are called idiots that someone with the same affiliation may get their feelings hurt?  I don´t see how a public display prayer makes you an idiot.  It didn´t harm anyone and it is a form of self expression.  These people where not violently protesting or making any trouble.  To me this seemed like many people getting together to try to accomplish a goal through prayerful means.    

 

You can call any Moslem group "idiots", if they treasure intentions like putting their seccades down and  praying in Eifell tower.... if they dont care what non-moslem French will feel about that, why should anybody care for their feelings.

Being a Moslem  (at least to me) is a serious affair. İf god said a Moslem can pray anywhere, he did not mean " in the middle of a circus tent, while the show is on".

 

 



Edited (6/1/2012) by AlphaF

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