Dear all:

Apparently no one is interested in the ethymology of Turkic words. So I've started this thread, hoping we can compare the two dialects so that we can learn both from one another. I'll start with the simple words, and appreaciate the respective Turkiye Turkish contribution from the members.

Numbers: bir, ikki, üç, tört, beş, alte, yette, sekkiz, toqquz, on, yigirme, ottuz, qirq, ellik, atmiş, yetmiş, seksen, toqsen, yüz, ming, tümen (on ming), milliyon, milliyard, triliyon

Nouns: men, sen, u, biz, siler, ular

(polite form: siz, sili, özliri)

I'm interested in it but I just don't know anything about it at all

"tümen" that word took my attention.
In Turkey's Turkish it means 10.000 but, we don't use it for counting. Bir tümen asker. Means 10.000 soldier.

But one thing took my attention, in Korean "MAN" mean 10.000 which looks it may have a relationship with Turkic "tümen".
Just an idea. I don't know anything about it.

My question is how do you read this number ?

123456 -> In Turkey's Turkish we say;
yüz yirmi üç bin dört yüz elli altı.
Our counting system is : bir - on - yüz - bin - milyon

But in China, Korea and most possibly in Japan and maybe some other Far-Eastern countries they have 10.000 as a step in their counting systems.
They count : bir - on - yüz - bin - onbin(tümen) - milyar

As you see the steps are different.
So this number(123456) is read as(using Turkic words);
oniki tümen üç bin dört yüz elli altı in Korean and Chinese.
Milyon is yüz tümen.

So many foreigners confuse reading numbers in Chinese and Korean in the beginning.

How do you read numbers in Uyghur ?
Chinese way or Turkish way ?


Turkish spelling of your words:
Numbers: bir(bir ), ikki(iki ), üç(üç ), tört(dört ), beş(beş ), alte(altı ), yette(yedi ), sekkiz(sekiz ), toqquz(dokuz ), on(on ), yigirme(yirmi ), ottuz(otuz ), qirq(kırk ), ellik(elli ), atmiş(Altmış ), yetmiş(Yetmiş ), seksen(Seksen ), toqsen(doksan ), yüz(yüz ), ming(bin ), tümen (on ming) (only onbin ), milliyon(milyon ), milliyard(milyar ), triliyon(trilyon )

Nouns: men(ben ), sen(sen ), u(o ), biz(biz ), siler(siz ), ular(onlar )

Teshekkür ederim! (Köp teshekkür)

sorry for double posting by mistake.

Hi again Korshad,

Here are some other words in Uyghur:

Colours (rengler): aq(white)||beyaz or ak||, qara (black)||siyah or kara||, qizil (red)||kırmızı or kızıl||, yeşil(green)||yeşil||, kök (blue)||mavi(possibly arabic)||, seriq (yellow)||sarı||, sösün (light purple)||eflatun (?)||, binepşe (dark purple)||mor||

Kül reng (gray)||gri or külrengi||, hawa reng (light blue)||açık mavi||, beghir reng (dark brown)||kahverengi|| ||may beghir be bakır(copper) here ?||, etc.

Degrees of the colours: Aç or sus (light)||açık||, toq or qeniq (dark)||koyu||

Family members: dada or ata (father)||baba (possibly Chinese||), ana or apa (mother)||anne or ana||, bowa (grand father)||dede(possibly chinese)||, moma (grand mother)||nene (poss.chinese)||, tagha (uncle)||amca||, hamma (aunt)||hala||, aka or agha (elder brother)||ağabey or abi or birader||, aça or hede (elder sister)||abla||, uka or ini (younger brother)||erkek kardeş||, singil (younger sister)||kız kardeş||, jiyen qiz (niece)||kız yeğen||, jiyen oghul (nephew)||erkek yeğen||, newre (grand child)||torun||, çewre (great grand child)||---||, ewre (great.... child)||--||, peynewre (great ....child)||--||, kökül newre (great .....)||--||

Qeyin ana (mother in law), ......||kayın ana or kaynana||
kelin (daughter in law) ||gelin (wife of son)||
küyoghul (son in law)||damat(husband of daughter)||
Quda (parants of wife and husband, how they call each other)
Yenge and yezne ( different from qeyin aça and qeyin aka) ||Yenge (brother's wife)||

addition:
Kayın baba (father in law)
Kayın birader (brother of your sister/brother's husband)
Görümce (Wives of both brother call each other like this)
Teyze (Mother's sister)
Dayı (Mother's brother)

Actually, there are many words for family relationships. You may hear different words in different areas in Turkey

Thanks for your post Armegon.

Right !

I appreaciate a lot for your contributions Sunseedflower and armegon. Hope we can continue this very constructive exchange.

Some notes:

Beghir or jiger is liver in Uyghur. Copper is mis.

Northern Chinese has a lot of loan words from the Altaic neighbours due to the many historical rulings by those of the groups. In mordern chinese there are also many load words from other languages. for example: bai bai (Bye bye), motuo che (motocyle) etc. Chinese words for father and mother actually is Die and Niang. (and their different forms). These terms can rarely be loan words as they are very basic words. The similarity between different languages only because these sounds are easy to be pronounced by babies. Surely we can discuss the ethymology of the words in my older thread.

Now back to the topic, here come more Uyghur words:

adjectives:

small: kiçik, ushshaq,..
big: çong, yoghan, büyük ...
light: yenik, yengil
heavy: eghir
short(height): pakar
tall: egiz
short (legnth): kalte , qisqa
long: uzun
ugly: set, körümsiz
beautiful: güzel, körkem, çirayliq, uz ..
soft: yumşaq, boş
hard: qattiq, çing
right: toghra, berheq
wrong: hata
young: yaş
old: qeri, yaşanghan ...
new: yengi
old: kona, eski-tuski
good: yahşi, belen, obdan ...
bad: naçar, yaman,...
thin: inçike
thick: tom
hungry: aç
full: toq
hot: issiq
cold: soghuq
neat: retlik
messy: qalaymiqan, retsiz
slow: asta
fast: tiz
thin: oruq
fat: semiz

Many of these adjectives have several synonyms. I can't remember at once. listed are more commonly used ones.


that's for today. (bügünçe muşunçilik yazay)

Addition to SFS
small:küçük or ufak
fast:hızlı or tez or çabuk

I made mistake, Fast is not tiz, instead tez in Uyghur.another word: ittik.

Küçük in uyghur is puppy (baby dog).

thin (line) is inçike, while thin (bulk, such as soup) is suyuq.

thick (line) is tom, while thick (dense)is qoyuq.

thin (layer)is nipiz, thick (layer) is qelin. You can say "yüzi qelin" meaning not shy.

kötü reminds me qotur in Uyghur which is used for coarse. flat is siliq.

Yavaş in Uyghur is kind of timid. Yaman is also bold.

awaq and Injimaruq are the higher degrees of oruq in Uyghur.

Pakar is used for the hight of a person, while pes is used for the objects.

Here are more I can think of:

wide: keng
narrow: tar
far: yiraq
near: yeqin
bold: yureklik, qorqmas
timid: qorqunchaq
straight: tüz
not straight: maymaq, egri-bugri
happy: hoşal, köngüllük
unhappy: hapa, qayghuluq
sound(health): saq, temen, saghlam
ill: aghriq, kesel, nimjan
mad: sarang
not mad: ong
right(direction): ong
left: sol
open: oçuq
closed: yepiq
clear: oçuq, eniq
not clear: tutuq, sus
bright: yoruq
dark: qarangghu
hardworking: işÃ§an, tirişÃ§an
lazy: horun, teyyartap
busy: aldiraş
not busy: bikar, boş
dry: quruq, qurghaq
wet: nem, suluq
more: köp, jiq
less: az, sanaqliq

Looking forward to your reply. (jawabingizgha teshnamen.)

I love this topic

--OFF TOPIC--

I have just finished an article about Turkish-Korean similar words. 9-page pdf file in Turkish. It gives some information about how the words are changed in shape and transferred to other languages.

A small quote from the study in Turkish. Author is a Korean.
I may translate it to English when I have time.
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Korece ile Türkçe arasında 180’e yakın yeni ortak
kelime ve 90’a yakın ortak ek bulunmuştur. Ãœstelik bu ortak unsurların çoğu yalnız Türkçe ile Korece arasında değil, Moğolca ve Mançu-Tunguzca gibi diğer Altay dillerinde de mevcuttur. Ortak kelimeler bir yana bırakılırsa, çalışmalarımdan elde ettiğim ortak unsurlar şunlardır: İsim yapma ekleri 37, fiil yapma ekleri 14, hal ekleri 9, zamirler 8, sıfat fiiller 5, zarf fiiller 12, çoğul ekleri 2. (Choi 1989).

Here is the translation:
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Around 180 new words and around 90 suffix/prefixes between Korean and Turkish have been discovered. Furthermore, most of those elements are not common only between Kor. and Turk., they also exist in other Altaic languages such as Mongolian and Manchu-Tungus. Excepting common words, result of my research is as follows: Noun building suffixes 37, verb building suffixes 14, situation suffixes 9, pronouns 8, adjective-verbs 5, adverb-verbs 12, plural suffixes 2.

Some examples from the study: (In Turkish )
*Ko. ori “ördek”: Orta Korecede orh ve orhi olarak iki şekli vardır. Eski Uygurcada ördek “ördek” kelimesi vardır
*Ko. turumi “turna”: Eski Türkçede turunya, Orta Türkçede turna şeklindedir. Azerice ve Türkmencede ise durna şeklindedir.Yakutçada bu kelime turuya şeklindedir. Japonca tarafından da turu şeklinde ödünçlenmiştir.
*Ko. bora “kar fırtınası”: Korecede bu kelime yalnız nunbora “kar fırtına” (nun “kar”) kelimesinde bulunmaktadır.
*Ko. cokha “yeğen”: Orhon Türkçesinde çıqan şeklinde bulunmaktadır.
*Ko. toksuri “doğan”: surimae (<*suri + mae “doğan”) ve surisae (< suri + sae “kuşâ€). Korece tok kelimesi Türkçe “doğan” anlamındaki toğan (<*tok+kan) kelimesinde yaşamaktadır.
*Ko. tark “tavuk”: Bu Eski Uygurca ve Orta Türkçe takığu “evcil kuşâ€ ile aynıdır.
* Ko. kut “(şamanizmde) kutluluk dilemek için yapılan dini merasim”: Altay dillerinde yaygın bir şekilde kullanılmaktadır. Eski Türkçede “devlet, saadet, kutlama” anlamında kut vardır.
*Ko. tori “kahraman”: Moğolistan’ın başkenti Ulan Bator’un adında geçmektedir. Burada ulan bir sıfat olup “kırmızı” anlamına gelir; bator ise Türkçe bagator ile aynıdır.

Thanks Armegon.
Small additions;

river: derya->ırmak or nehir or akarsu
sea: dengız->deniz Derya means a big sea, or ocean

human: adem, kişi, insan->kişi, insan Ademoğlu, Adam (can be used with all genders as in bilimadamı, işadamı etc, but alone it signifies man.)
But the meaning is changing nowadays and people started to use biliminsanı(for both genders), bilimadamı(male), bilimkadını(woman)

male: er, erkek->er, erkek Adam

tree: dereh, yaghach is wood.->ağaç(tree) wood is odun in Turkish. Morph. od+un (maybe) things used for fire, same as in Uyghur where yagh-ach (yagh:fire, ach: things to use), just a reversed way of thinking

night: keçe, tün, ahşam->gece ahşam -> akşam : evening (slight change in the meaning)
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Here is Turkish tenses. In simple form. Using subject O(U in Uyghur). I have chosen O as subject, because it doesn't have any personal suffix in Turkish at the end of verbs.

-acak Future Tense. -> O Gidecek.
-yor Continuous Tense -> O Gidiyor.
-di/ti Past Tense -> O Gitti.
-miş Far Past Tense that you haven't seen. -> O Gitmiş.
Here "Far Past" is relative to your thoughts. Maybe 1 second earlier, maybe 100000 years earlier. Point is You were not there.
-r General ideas, happenings, events Tense. -> O gider.
This one expresses a a general behaviour. Can be called Wide Tense or Aorist.

An extra: (Since they call it a tense in Korean, and perfectly equal to Turkish one)
-makta (olmak) An action which is being done at the moment. -> O gitmekte. (Can be translated as "he is going at this moment") A moment tense.

Thanks for this topic Korshad. It is very useful to see the similarities between Turkish languages.

I'm also very thankful for all the active participations.

Faruk, Kömürçek and kıkırdek are different in Uyghur. kıkırdek is the path of the lung. we also call it karnay. kömürchek is a little harder than kıkırdek.

Thanks again SFS and Armagon.

Sama is also used in Uyghur.

Otun is yaghach which is only for burning.

I know Derya is Persian word. Old Turkic word should be say. (Anasay) However, say is used as river bank now. Östeng is small river, Eriq is a stream. Irnak?

For sun, Quyaş is also used.

Dear all,

We are like same mother's children. Some of us communicate with other cultures more, some of us dont. We still use our mother language but, ages and different cultures effected how we use it. In my first year at college my prof. said tabışgan in old turkish means tavşan(rabbit) today. İt is originated "tıpış tıpış" tapış tapış tapış-gan the animal which goes tapış tapış(sound effect)! I was impressed, ı am still impressed. Also beghir reng means brown, beygir "mustang color" which is most turks loves to ride. I was thinking all that information was useless but charming just for me to learn, today happy to find a place to show off

THE UYGHUR EMPIRE !

http://www.allempires.com/article/index.php?q=The_Uyghur_Empire

HERE YOU CAN VIEW THE UYGHUR EMPIRE:

http://allempires.com/empires/uighur/map_u.jpg

Islamic Middle East and Persia
In the centuries after the life of Muhammad, Muslim armies poured out into all surrounding Areas, bringing the lands from Persia to Spain under their control. With this huge amount of land under their control, the Umayyad (and latter, the Abbasid) Caliphates allowed merchants and scholars to easily travel through western Eurasia, bringing goods and knowledge (which the Muslims greatly expanded) through the Caliphate and outward to less advanced regions, such as Western Europe. In 751, papermaking from China made its way to the West through Muslims. Trade introduced Islam to the Africans. In the Middle East, the success of Islam meant that culture would be changed forever. Even after the decline of the Abassid Caliphate, Islam would remain as one of the base institutions of the region. Future states of the region, such as the Safavid, Seljuk, and Ottoman Empires, were all "Islmaic Empires".

It is ironic that we fought for not become muslim for 300 years

I have left out another continuos form:

U ketiwatidu. (He is leaving.)
U ketmekte. (He is leaving (as if you are seeing his action))
U Ketiwatmaqta. (He is leaving and leaving.)

And Also another past tense form:

U ketetti. (He used to leave.)
U Ketti. (He left.)

Now some question words:

Nime: What
Ating (Isming) nime? What's your name?

Qandaq: How
Qandaq Ehwaling (turdung)? How are you?

Qaysi: Which
Qaysi rengni eng yaxshi korisen? (which color do you like best?)

Qançe: How much
Qanche pul? (How much?)

Neççe: how many
Neççe balang bar? (How many children do you have?)

Kim: Who
U kim? (Who is he?)

Ne(r) (Qayer): Where
Sen ne(r)din (Qayerdın) kelding? (Where are you from?)

Qaçan: When
Qaçan seni yene körimen? (When shall I see you again?)

I only used informal form. For polite form you can use: Siz and sili, for example:

Qandaq ehwalingiz? Qandaq ehwallari?
Ismingiz nime? Isimliri nime (nimikin)?
Siz nerlik? Sili nerlik? etc.

Teshekkür ederim, Si++!

Sorry for the late response, though.

Here are some basic verbs in Uyghur:

qil: do
nime qiliwatisen? (what are you doing?)

de: say
Men hiçnime demidim. (I didn't say anything.)

eyt: tell
Her qandaq iş bolsa, manga eyting.

al: take
Nechchini alisiz? (How many do you take?)

ber: give
Buni sizge kim bergen? (Who gave you this?)

tur: stay
Ashu yerde turup turung, men hazrirla yetip barimen. (Stay there, I'll be there at once.)

yat: lie down
Yetiweremsiz? ( are you always lying down?)

ur: hit
Sizni kim urdi? (who hit you?)

sat: sell
Bu resimingizni satamsiz? (do you sell this picture?)

kel: come
Qanchelerde kelersiz? (About when will you come?)

ket: leave
U kettimu? (did he leave?)

ayril: leave (relationship, also place)
Biz ayrilip kettuq. (We have left each other)
Yurtumdin ayrilghinimgha uzun zamanlar bolup ketti. ( It is been very long since I left home)

qal: stay back
Men qalay, siz bering. (I stay back, you go.)

bar: go, have
Yurtingizgha qaçan yene barisiz? (when do you go hometown again?)
Uning bek köp dostliri bar.

çiq: come up, go out
öydin çiqing! (leave the house!)

çüş: come down
peske çüşÃ¼nge, sizge deydighan gepim bar idi. (please come down, I have something to tell you.)

uç: fly
Bu hil quş bek tez uçidu. (This type of bird flies very fast.)

mang: walk
Sel tezrek mangghan bolsingiz. (I hope you can walk a little faster)

yügür: run
şunçe tez yügürüpmu, uninggha yetelmidim. (Although I ran very fast, still I couldn't catch him.)

uhla: sleep
U uhlawatidu, sel turup yene telifon qilamsiz? (He is sleeping, can you call back again later?)

oyghan: wake up
Oyghanmighan bizla qalduq. (We are the only people who haven't woken up yet.)

iç: drink
Su içemsiz? (Whould you lıke to drink water?)

ye: eat
Birer nerse yedingizmu? (did you eat something?)

tut: hold
Buni esingizde çing tutung. (keep this in your mind firmly.)

qoy: put (on something), let go
buni nerge qoyimen? (where shall I put this?)

kir: enter
Açquç yoq, Öyge kirelmidim. (I couldn't enter the house wıthout key.)

aç: open
U yerge yengi bir talla baziri eçiliptu. (I heard there is a supermarchet newly opened there)

yap: close, cover
Işikni yepiwetinge! (Please be kind to close the door)

kör: see, watch
Bu kinoni körgenmu? (Have you seen thıs movıe?)

qara: look
Qarang, bu jay nime digen güzel! (Look how beautıful thıs place ıs!)

baq: look with affection or look after
Uning qıya beqişlirini mengü unitalmaymen. (I can never forget her lookıngs.)
Bala beqiş ongay emes. (ıt ıs not easy to look after the chıld)

So beautiful! i want to learn Uyghur language to .

Thanks again for the input. I think It's better not to make a single post too long. So from now on, I'll give just a few words at one time, I appreacıate if you can also give respective Turkish sentences:

yür: go along, (or as boy and girl friend)

Ular yürüwatamdu? (Are they boy and girl friends?)

çök: sink (passive)

U sugha çöküp ketti. (he sank into the water)

çöm: sink (active)

U su cömülüşke amraq. (he likes swimming)
şatliqqa çömüş (full with happiness)

üz: swim

üzelemsiz? (can you swim?)

çila: put in the liquid
kiyimingni çilap qoydum. (I put your clothes in the water)

kiy: wear (clothes)
bugun qaysi kiymimni kiysem bolar? (Which clothes shall I wear today?)

Angla: hear
gepingiznı angliyalmidim. (I can hear your words)

tingşa: listen to
Radio tingşaşni yahşi körimen. (I like to listen to the Radıo)

yür: go along, (or as boy and girl friend)
this sounds like our "yürü" but we don't use with this meaning.

Ular yürüwatamdu? (Are they boy and girl friends?)

çök: sink (passive)
we have the same verb. it means many similar meanings. fall in, fall down, go down, settle. we have "batmak" for sink

U sugha çöküp ketti. (he sank into the water)
o suya batıp gitti

çöm: sink (active)
we have the same verb. it means settle down and similar meanings

U su cömülüşke amraq. (he likes swimming)
şatliqqa çömüş (full with happiness)
what does "amraq" mean hear? love?

üz: swim
we have the same: yüzmek

üzelemsiz? (can you swim?)
yüzebilirmisiniz?

çila: put in the liquid
kiyimingni çilap qoydum. (I put your clothes in the water)

kiy: wear (clothes)
bugun qaysi kiymimni kiysem bolar? (Which clothes shall I wear today?)
the same but little changed: giymek

Angla: hear
gepingiznı angliyalmidim. (I can hear your words)
we use this verb with different meaning:
anlamak - understand

tingşa: listen to
Radio tingşaşni yahşi körimen. (I like to listen to the Radıo)
we have the same verb but yours looks like chnaged a lttle:
dinlemek ( < tınglamak ) - listen to

It is not possible for an average Turkish native to understand and talk in Uyghur. Same is in force for Uyghur natives.
Although there are many real Turkish words(not all words in the language,I mean loans) similar in the root form, pronounciation and suffixes are different in most cases.
And if you take loan-words into consideration, it gets more complicated. Uyghur and Turkish(Turkey's) were far from each other about 2000 years without a direct contact.
Think that you are reading a 2000 years old English book. How much can you understand from it is equal to our understanding of Uyghur Language in Turkey.

But it is fun, surprising and very educating to talk about Uyghur and Turkish, they were the same language some thousand years ago.

Many thanks goes to Korshad, Armegon, Si and others who contribute in this topic.

I think Turkish and Uyghur can be brought closer together (same applies to all Turkic languages), if both could be written in the same alphabet (identical set of letters).

This could be easily achieved, if all Turkic nations can come together and agree on a common alphabet.

Pls correct me, if in disagreement...

It might be good, but having different letters/sounds makes it hard.
They tried to impose Turkey Turkish as the common/standart language for all Turkic countries. But that didn't work.
Turkish is one of the farthest Turkic language to other Turkic languages. So it is hard for a Turkish to understand other Turkic languages.
Actually, language can be a wrong term here. Say Turkic dialects. Some differences in sounds like accents, and some differences in grammar.
The idea to use latin is good of course, some of them changed into latin and some will change in future, I heard some plans.
Turkish alphabet doesn't have all sounds that they have. Say the other e, q, x etc.
Turkish people used Arabic letters for a long time in Asia and in Anatolia. We have changed to Latin and they have changed to Krill, there are some people still using Arabic in China, since Chinese characters doesn't suit Turkish language.
As far as I see, Arabic looks the most common one, since all countries have used it in history.
Do you think that we can change back to Arabic ?
What is your opinion ?

Establishing a unified Turkic script is the must. Being it Latin or Arabic. Arabic is a very beautiful script, and has strong historical connection with Turkic people, but not as practical as Latin. Moreover, there are more and more turkic people using Latin. Uyghurs, although have agreed on a kind of latin script called UKY, which I will base my further posts on to give some idea to the forumers, changing totally to latin is very difficult, especially after so many script changings happened in the last century (Arabic-kirillic-arabic-latin-arabic). I guess Latin will be a unified script for all the Turkic people in the future, this is the trend. Personally I hope we can revive our own ancient script Orhun, with some modfications.

As for the language, there can be a kind of standard language, with the inclusion of all the useful linguistical aspects from all the Turkic dialects. In this way, we can keep all the dialectical differences, and make Turkic even richer.

the website below is on something about uyghur alphabet,and u can also find other turkic languages' alphabet there.
hope it could be of some help to u all to know more about uyghur language.
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/uyghur.htm

Rehmet Gulmire, for the excellent source. Especially the following link:

http://www.uighurlanguage.com/

Only, they used old form of Uyghur Latin Script, and also there are some (very few) mistakes, besides haven't given different type of usage, for example:

"knock the door" is translated as "Ishikni urdi", actually this is very seldomly used. More common ones are "Ishikni chekti" or "Ishikni qaqti".

However, I loved the idea to provide the most commonly used one thousand sentences.

Dear forumers, if you are willing to contribute, I can start following this path:

1
I see．
I. chushendim. II. Bildim. III. Uqtum.

2
I quit!
Men qilmaymen!, Chekinimen!

3
Let go!
Qoyiweting! Boldi qiling!

4
Me too．
Menmu, Menmu hem.

5
My god!
Apla! Wai xudayim! Wai Allah! Ah xuda! Ah tengrim!

6
No way!
Bolmaydu! Mümkin emes! Undaq ish yoq!

7
Come on．
Kele, Bole, boldila, yoq gep qilmange

8
Hold on．
Sel turung, turup turung, toxtap turung, sel texir qiling, saqlap turung, mana hazir

9
I agree。
Qoshulimen, bashqa pikrim yoq, shundaq bolsun, emise shundaq kelishtuq

10
Not bad．
Yaman emes, bolidu, bo(lu)p qoyidu

Teshekkür, si++. It seems it is really a good idea. Common sentences are the most easy to be changed during the course of the time, making it difficult to be understood between the different dialects. Here are another ten sentences.

11
Not yet．
Yaq, texi.

12
See you．
Keyin körüsheyli.

13
Shut up!
Aghizingni yum! (Aghzingizni yumung!)

14
So long．
Xosh emise. Mushu yergiche bolsun.

15
Why not?
Elwette. Nime üchün bolmighidek. Nime ishqa bolmighidek.

16
Allow me．
Men qilay. Manga qoyup bering.

17
Be quiet!
Tench. Shush, üningizni (awazingizni) chiqarmang.

18
Cheer up!
Rohluq bolung! Janlining!

19
Good job!
Nahayiti yaxshi! Alamet! Yaraysiz!

20
Have fun!
Köngüllük (Xoshal) oynang!

11
Not yet．
Yaq, texi.
yok, daha ; daha değil

12
See you．
Keyin körüsheyli.
gene görüşelim, görüşÃ¼rüz

13
Shut up!
Aghizingni yum! (Aghzingizni yumung!)
ağzını yum, ağzını kapa, kes sesini

14
So long．
Xosh emise. Mushu yergiche bolsun.
hoşÃ§a kal

15
Why not?
Elwette. Nime üchün bolmighidek. Nime ishqa bolmighidek.
elbette. niçin/neden (ne için) olmasın.

16
Allow me．
Men qilay. Manga qoyup bering.
ben yapayım, bana koyuverin, bana bırakın, benim yapmama izin verin

17
Be quiet!
Tench. Shush, üningizni (awazingizni) chiqarmang.
şşş, sesini çıkarma, sessiz ol

18
Cheer up!
Rohluq bolung! Janlining!
ruhluk olun, canlanın, şerefe

19
Good job!
Nahayiti yaxshi! Alamet! Yaraysiz!
nihayeti hoş/güzel, yarasın, iyi iş, aferin

20
Have fun!
Köngüllük (Xoshal) oynang!
gönlünü hoş et/tut, eğlenin, oynayın vs.

Biraz is also used in Uyhgur.

Biraz turup turung. Biraz saqlang.

Qetilimen is also used, mainly in the meaning of joining.

Men zeriktim also means some kind of "I quit".

Apirin is also used.

Here are more ten sentences:

21
How much?
Qanche pul (boldi)? Bahasi qanche? Nechche pul? Qanchilik?(the amount)

22
I'm full．
Men toydum.

23
I'm home．
Men keldim. Men öyde.

24
I'm lost．
Men adiship kettim. Men ezip qaldim. Men azghiship kettim.
25
My treat．
Men mihman qilay. Men kötürey. Mendin bolsun.

26
So do I．
Menmu shundaq. Menmu shu.

27
This way。
Bu yaqqa. Bu yerge.

28
After you．
Sizdin kelsun. Qeni, siz bashlang.

29
Bless you!
Salamet bolung.

30
Follow me．
Manga egishing. Keynimdin menging. Arqamdin egishing.

21
How much?
Qanche pul (boldi)? Bahasi qanche? Nechche pul? Qanchilik?(the amount)
kaç para? fiyatı ne/kaç? ne kadar? ne/kaç etti?

22
I'm full．
Men toydum.
(Ben) doydum. Ağzıma kadar doldum.

23
I'm home．
Men keldim. Men öyde.
Ben geldim. Ben evdeyim. Eve geldim.

24
I'm lost．
Men adiship kettim. Men ezip qaldim. Men azghiship kettim.
Kayboldum

25
My treat．
Men mihman qilay. Men kötürey. Mendin bolsun.
Benden olsun. Bana bırak.

26
So do I．
Menmu shundaq. Menmu shu.
Ben de

27
This way。
Bu yaqqa. Bu yerge.
Bu taraftan/tarafa. Buradan/buraya

28
After you．
Sizdin kelsun. Qeni, siz bashlang.
(İlk) önce sen/siz. Siz başlayın.

29
Bless you!
Salamet bolung.
Selametle. Allah sizi korusun/kutsasın.

30
Follow me．
Manga egishing. Keynimdin menging. Arqamdin egishing.
Beni takip et. Düş peşime.

Günler / Künler

duxamba (duşamba) >> pazartesi (pazar ertesi ertesi = following)

sayşamba >> salı

çarşamba >> çarşamba

perşembe >> perşembe

cuma >> cuma

şembe >> cumartesi (cuma ertesi )

yekşembe >> pazar

I am learning Uygur Dialect from my pretty Uygur Friend. (Rehmet Senga Adshim) Uygur is really same (ohşaş with Oğuz Turkish (Turkey Turkish). But i can understand Azeri Dialect and Özbek Dialect more.

I dont know months in Uygur. Pls help me... (mini kutkuzwal)

Ocak (January) (Turkish origin) (ocak = furnace, family, home, centre)

Şubat(February) (Syriac, Sümer origin)

Mart (March) (Latin origin)

Nisan (April) (Sümer origin)

Mayıs (May) (Latin origin) (turkish mayıs = animal manure)

Haziran (June) (Syriac, Sümer origin )

Temmuz (July) (Sümer origin)

Ağustos (August) (Latin origin)

Eylül (September) (Sümer, Syriac origin)

Ekim (Oktober) (Turkish origin) (ekim =sowing month)

Kasım (November) (Turkish origin) (kasım = kas, kasma, kasnama = vibrate)

Aralık (December) (Turkish origin) (aralık = ajar)

Körüşemiz / GörüşÃ¼rüz

I've read somewhere about the old Uyghur way of saying months.(Qozi, tomuz etc). However they are not used anymore. In spoken Uyghur we simply use:

Birinji ay, ikkinji ay, üchinji ay, törtinji ay, beshinji ay, altinji ay, yettinji ay, sekkizinji ay, toqquzunji ay, oninji ay, onbirinji ay and onikkinji ay.

In the writen form (which is very seldomly used), we use the english version of months:

yanwar, febral, mart, april, may, iyun, iyol, awghust, sentebir, öktebir, noyabir and dikabir.

31
Forget it!
Unutup keting. Qoyunge sizni. Boldila.
unut gitsin. Boşver. Aldırma.

32
Good luck!
Teleylik bolung. Ametlik bolung. Amet yaghsun!
Yolun açık olsun. Şansın yaver gitsin. İyi şanslar. Bol şans (imitation of French "Bonne chance").

33
I decline!
Men qoshulmaymen. Ret qilimen. Men qarshi (turimen).
Ben karşıyım. Reddediyorum. Ben kabul etmiyorum.

34
I promise．
Wede berey. Qesem ichey. Gepimde turimen.
Söz ceriyorum. Söz.

35
Of course!
Elbette! bolmamdighan! Chataq yoq!
Elbette. ŞÃ¼phesiz. Ne şÃ¼phe.

36
Slow down!
Astaraq.
(Aman) yavaş. Yavaşla. Yavaş git.

37
Take care!
Özingizni asrang! Özingizni saqlang!
Kendine dikkat et.

38
They hurt．
Aghiwatidu. Jenimdin ötüp ketti.
Onlar acıtıyor. (Translation of English, what is this? I don't think this is a fequently used sentence)

39
Try again．
Yene bir sinap körüng (beqing).
Tekrar dene.

40
Watch out!
Awaylang! Diqqet qiling!
Dikkat et.

Dear Korshad,

How do you say the following in Uygur?

eve gitmem gerek/lazım (my going home is necessary)

düşÃ¼nmem gerek/lazım (my thinking is necessary)

eve gelmem yakın (my coming home is soon)

erken gitmeyi tasarlıyorum (I am planning to go early)

varolmanın dayanılmaz hafifliği (unbearable lightness of being)

içki içmek istemiyorum (I don't want to drink)

gitmekte fayda var (going there helps)

gitmekten vazgeçtim (I gave up going there)

41
What's up?
Nime ixing bar?

42
Be careful!
Dikhkhet!

43
Bottoms up!
Sokhe, rumkini!

44
Don't move!
Khimirlima!

45
Guess what?
Ozeng tape, khini?

46
I doubt it
Gumanlinimen.

47
I think so．
Menmu xundakh oyludum.

48
I'm single．
Men boytakh.

49
Keep it up!
Qidap tur!

50
Let me see．
Kheni, oylap korey.

41
What's up?
Nime ish bar? (originally). as in the English meaning of greeting we can say : Barmu ya?
ne var. ne iş. n'aber.

42
Be careful!
Diqqet! Awaylang!
dikkat (et). dikkatli ol. uyanık ol. sakın.

43
Bottoms up!
Xoshe! (tügitimiz he!)
fondip! bir kerede (bitsin). Tek dikişte!

44
Don't move!
Qimirlimang! Midirlimang! yötkelmeng! jim turung!
Kımıldma! Kıpırdama! Yerinden oynama! Öyle kal/dur!

45
Guess what?
Tepip beqinge? Perez qilip beqinge (körünge)?
bil bakalım (ne)? (sence) ne olabilir?

46
I doubt it
Gumanlinimen. Ishengüm kelmeydu.
kuşkuluyum/şÃ¼pheliyim. kuşkum/şÃ¼phem var.

47
I think so．
Menmu shundaq oylaymen (qaraymen).
sanırım (öyle). zannedersem. galiba. bence.
I don't think so = sanmam, zannetmem. bence + (negative)

48
I'm single．
Men boytaq. Men öylenmigen. men toy qilmighan. men turmushluq bolmighan.
bekarım. boştayım. özgürüm. bağlantım/ilişkim yok

49
Keep it up!
chidang! chishingizni chishleng! bel qoyiwetmeng!
"aynen"/"aynı şekilde" devam (et).

50
Let me see．
Oylap körey. Qarap baqay!
(bir) bakayım. (bir) göreyim bakayım.

Merhabalar,

Kurshad Uygur Türkçesinde "Shame on you" nimu daydu?

Türkiye Türkçesinde Shame on you = Ayıp Sana / Utanmalısın

Rehmet Senga

Hoş

Dear Korshad,

U ketken. (he left quite long before)

How 'bout the other persons?

I am guessing. Correct me if I am wrong.

men ketkenmen
sen ketkensen
u ketken
biz ketkenmiz
siler kenkensiler
ular ketken(ler)

How 'bout negative? Is it posible?
men ketmeken (?) or men ketken imasman (?)

Very nice comparison Si++, Köp teshekkür!

İletilerinizin hepsini okudum ve önemli gördüğüm noktalara değinmek istedim.

I read all of your messages and i just want to touch on some points which are important for me.

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1- Odun / Otun

Quotation >> yaghach is wood
Otun is yaghach which is only for burning.

Odun comes from OD which means flame/fire in old Turkish.
Yaghach is Ağaç(aghach) in Turkey Turkish. Ohşaş

And Yakacak/Yakıt is another word which means Fuel

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2- Çökmek / Batmak

Quotation >> we have the same verb. it means many similar meanings. fall in, fall down, go down, settle. we have 'batmak' for sink
U sugha çöküp ketti. (he sank into the water)
o suya batıp gitti

Çökmek is also used for sanking into water in Turkiye/Oğuz Turkish. But sanking think should be lifeless.
Pislikler suyun dibine çöktü. (Dirtiness sanked to the bottom)

Look at that word >> Çökelek
Çökelek is a kind of cheese. If you sour the milk, solid parts in the milk will sink to the bottom. So you can get Çökelek. This word also comes from Çökmek(Sank) Same

In Turkiye Turkish çökmek has also variant meanings. I mean its not only for water.

And this one is also good. Çimmek (Have a bath or swimming)
Çimmek = Çömmek = Çökmek
Suıvka çömgen er. 'Suda yüzen adam'

Quotation >> Pat in Uyghur is going in to not liquid thing, like mud, or even a crowd of people, while chök is into the liquid.
Patqaqa petip qalmaq(fall into the mud)


Pat/Bat- is different verb.
Fall into the mud >> Çamura batmak here we can say same
Güneş batması >>Sunset and Batı (West) from sunset
etc.etc.

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3- Yaka /Yaqqa Yer /Yer

Quotation >> This way =Bu yaqqa. Bu yerge.

Yaka = Side, Hillside, (and collar) in Turkiye Turkish
Avrupa Yakası = European Side
Yine Ohşaş
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4- Come on

Quotatiın >> Come one = .... Kele

In Turkiye i heard Kele several times.
In Turkiye they use it like that
Kele bir bak = Hey look
And Kele means Bull too.

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Şey and Nerse >> You know we use şey in Turkiye Turkish. But i know that this is Arabic. Kulli şeyin kadir.
And in Uygur Turkish/Dialect its Nerse. Nerse seems such a Turkish word. Kurşad may you please say us where nerse come from. I mean may you find its root. We have Nesne means thing/object. May it come from Nerse? or may both of them come from same root?

sizning uyğur tili toğruluq sözliginingiz ge köp rehmet!

Teşekkür ederim si++
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Uygur Atasözleri /Uygur Sav / Uygur Proverbs

1- 'Aqaretlik turmishtin sadaqatlik ölüm yahshi'
'Acizane bir hayattan onurlu bir ölüm daha iyidir'

2- 'Erdemlig kişi erdini birle tüz ol, erdemsiz kişi etük
içindeki ulyak birle tüz ol'
'Erdemli kişi cevherle birdir,erdemsiz kişi çizme
içindeki taban astarı ile birdir.

3- 'Buyanlıg kişi burkanlare birle tüz ol, buyansız kişi buk
bakır birle tüz ol.'
'İyilik yapan kişi burkanlarla birdir, iyilik yapmayan
insan boş bakır ile birdir.'

4- 'Kimnin tamırı yogun bolsar kanagı yinil.'
'Kimin damarı kalın ise kan aldırması kolay olur.'

5- 'Er kutı belin suv kutı terin.'
'Erin değeri korku zamanında, suyun değeri derinliğinde.'

6- 'Begimsinmeyük beg bolsar beltir sayu berge salur,
atakımsınmayuk atıg bulsar art sayu mayakayur.'
'Bey olmayacak kimse bey olursa her yol kavşağına sopa
koyar,şÃ¶hrete lâyık olmayan kimse şÃ¶hret bulursa, her
dağın sırtına işaret koyar.'

7- 'İt karı bolsar yatıp ürür.'
'İt yaşlansa, yatıp ürür(havlar).'

8- 'Tagda öz yok, say yazıda bel yok.'
'Dağda düzlük olmaz, düzlük yerde bel olmaz.'

9- 'Yamgur yagsa kapun bolsun yabıngu kergek, yavız kişi
yakın kelse abıngu kergek.'
'Yağmur yağarsa, kabın olsun, örtünmek gerekü, kötü yakın
gelirse gizlenmek gerek.'

10- 'Yoldaş yolda sinilar.'
'Yoldaş(arkadaşyolda sınanır(denenir)'

11- 'Yüz angligandin bir körgen ela.'
'Yüz kere dinlemekten bir kere görmek yeğdir.'

12- 'Zimistan körmigen bulbul baharning kadrini bilmes.'
'Kış görmemiş bülbül baharın değerini bilmez.'

13- 'Ziyan aççik payda tatliq.'
'Zarar(ziyan) acı, kar(fayda) tatlı.'

14- 'Bir türükni 10 kata uralaysen,likin 11 katada u seni
ödürdu.'
'Bir Türkçe 10 defa vurabilirsin 11.sinde o seni
öldürür.'

15- 'Abçı neçe al (tep) bilse, ayıg anca yol bilir.'
'Avcı ne kadar al(aldatmaca) bilse, ayı o kadar yol
bilir.'

16- 'Alın arslan tutar, küçin sıçgan tutmas.'
'Aldatma ile arslan tutulur, güç ile sıçan tutulmaz.'

17- 'Alımçı arslan, berimçi sıçgan.'
'Alacağına arslan, vereceğine sıçan.'

18- 'Alp çerikde, bilge tirikde.'
'Alp(yiğit) orduda, bilge mecliste. (belli olur)'

19- 'Aç ne yemes, tok ne temes.'
'Aç ne yemez, tok ne demez?'

20- 'Agılda oglak togsa arıkda otı öner.'
'Ağılda oğlak doğsa arkta (derede) otu biter.'

21- 'Aç ebek, tok telek.'
'Aç evegen(ivedi, aceleci) , tok yavaş. (olur)'

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-----'Erdemlig kişi erdini birle tüz ol, erdemsiz kişi etük
içindeki ulyak birle tüz ol' >> Here what does tüz ol means?

-----'Kimnin tamırı yogun bolsar kanagı yinil.'
In Turkey Turkish yoğun means dense/concentrated. In Uygur Turkish is it same?

-----'Er kutı belin suv kutı terin.'
Here does kutı comes from kut?

-----'İt karı bolsar yatıp ürür.'
Here Turkish translation says that karı means old age What does it mean actually?
Cos in Turkey Turkish karı means wife i thought it comes from yar yarim = karım

-----'Yamgur yagsa kapun bolsun yabıngu kergek, yavız kişi
yakın kelse abıngu kergek.'
yavız/yavuz has different meanings in Turkey Turkish
yavuz 1 = powerful,hard, efficient
yavuz 2 = bad, harsh
yavuz 3 = beautiful, good, strong good man
Have you got those meanings too??

-----'Yüz angligandin bir körgen ela.'
Here i thought ela is evla which means better. In Turkish we use daha iyi or yeğ instead of it.

----'Agılda oglak togsa arıkda otı öner.'
Here arık we also use it like ark but here ark means irrigation trench and canal.

Dear Umut, I'm very much impressed by your interest, and grateful for your contribution.

Those were not writen in Uyghur (except only few of them). I have doubt about the source.Still let me try to give some comments.

my comments below

Dear Korshad!

U ketiwatmaqta. (He is leaving and leaving, intensifies the continuity of the action)

OK I understand this is a compound verb, right?

then "watmaq"; what does it mean?

We have a compound verb form similarly but we use different verbs.

o gidedurmakta/gidekoymakta. (he is going/leaving continuously)

durmak = stand, to be in a state (İstanbul Turkish)
koymak = put (My dialect)

Arqadash,

Maybe it is compound verb. In Uyghur we also use different compound verbs. Such as Tur, qoy etc.

Saqlap turung. (Please wait.( stresses staying))

Dep qoymang. (Don't tell, (stresses keeping)

These are dependant on the verbs you are using and also the meaning. However "watmaqta" can be added almost all the verbs to make the constant continuos tense. Maybe originally it is from "etmekte".

when adverbal verb such as Ishlep, tartip, körüp, qorup etc are followed by other verbs, there can happen weakening of p into b and futher to w. And also the changing of a to e, k to q are possible. It seems too complicated.

Here are another ten sentences in Uyghur:

51

Never mind．
Hichqisi yoq.

52
No problem!
Chataq yoq.

53
That's all!
Shundaq bolsun.

54
Time is up．
Waqit toshti.

55
What's new?
Qandaq yengiliqlar bar?

56
Count me on
Menimu qoshup qoyung.

57
Don't worry．
Ensirimeng.

58
Feel better?
Yaxshiraq bolup qaldingizmu?

59
I love you!
Sizni söyimen!

60
I'm his fan。
Men uning mestanisi. Men uninggha choqunimen.

51

Never mind．
Hichqisi yoq.
Önemi/ehemmiyeti yok. Boşver. Aldırma.

52
No problem!
Chataq yoq.
Dert/Sorun değil. Dert etme.

53
That's all!
Shundaq bolsun.
Tamamdır. Hepsi o/bu. Başka bir şey yok.

54
Time is up．
Waqit toshti.
Vakit doldu. Vakit tamam.

55
What's new?
Qandaq yengiliqlar bar?
Yeni bir şey var mı? Ne var ne yok. N'aber (Ne haber).

56
Count me on
Menimu qoshup qoyung.
Bana güven/Güven bana.

57
Don't worry．
Ensirimeng.
Dert etme. Endişelenme

58
Feel better?
Yaxshiraq bolup qaldingizmu?
Daha iyi oldun mu? Daha iyi misin

59
I love you!
Sizni söyimen!
Seni seviyorum.

60
I'm his fan。
Men uning mestanisi. Men uninggha choqunimen.
Onun (fanatik) hayranıyım.

61
Is it yours?
Bu seningmu?

62
That's neat．
Nahayiti yaxshi. Pechet. Jayida.

63
Are you sure?
Jezimleshtürelemsen? Muqimlashturalamsen? Rast shundaqmu?

64
Do l have to?
Qilmisam bolmamdu? Qilishim zörürmu?

65
He is my age．
U men bilen oxshash yashta. Uning yeshi meningki bilen teng. Biz teng yashta.

66
Here you are．
Mana, ale. Tute me.

67
No one knows.
Hichkim (hichkishi) bilmeydu.

68
Take it easy．
Jiddileshme. Temtirime. Özüngni besiwal. Temkin bolghin.

69
What a pity!
Hejep boldi. Tolimu epsus.

70
Any thing else?
Bashqisi lazimmu (kerekmu)?

61
Is it yours?
Bu seningmu?
(o) senin mi?
Do you use "bu" here?
Another thing I have noticed now.
Do you use the question particle (mu) as "mu" always?
We write it separately and it obeys vowel harmony (hence mı/mi/mu/mü).
az mı?
et mi?
ot mu?
üç mü?

I don't know if you speak some sort of Chinese(Mandarin/Cantonese)? If you do, do you know if there is something similar to "mu" in Chinese (sounding similar and used similarly)?


62
That's neat．
Nahayiti yaxshi. Pechet. Jayida.
temiz. düzgün. zarif. etc.

63
Are you sure?
Jezimleshtürelemsen? Muqimlashturalamsen? Rast shundaqmu?
emin misin?
Hmmm. I can see "-leshtür-" / "-lashtur-" part seems similar to our -leştir- but what is last part (-elemsen/alamsen)?
iyi = good
iyi-leştir-mek = make it good/better

64
Do l have to?
Qilmisam bolmamdu? Qilishim zörürmu?
...-mak/-mek zorunda mıyım?

65
He is my age．
U men bilen oxshash yashta. Uning yeshi meningki bilen teng. Biz teng yashta.
o benim ile aynı yaşta. onun yaşı benimki ile denk/aynı. Biz denk yaştayız. O benim yaşıtım. Biz ikimiz yaşıtız.
Yaşıt= aynı yaşta, denk yaşta. (of the same age)

66
Here you are．
Mana, ale. Tute me.
buyrun.

67
No one knows.
Hichkim (hichkishi) bilmeydu.
Hiç kimse bilmez. Kim bilir.

68
Take it easy．
Jiddileshme. Temtirime. Özüngni besiwal. Temkin bolghin.
Ciddileşme. Rahat/Sakin ol. Keyfine bak.

69
What a pity!
Hejep boldi. Tolimu epsus.
Ne yazık! yazık!

70
Any thing else?
Bashqisi lazimmu (kerekmu)?
(Ondan) Başka lazım mı? Başka bir şey (lazım mı?

My addings

Sorry for this late update,specially for Si++,umut-umut and other active members.