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All about Turkish and Uyghur:
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27 May 2007 Sun 02:31 pm |
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Quoting SunFlowerSeed: Hmmm, Turkish people should be careful not to use this word in Uyghur territory then. Because we also use it for people. Küçük çocuk.
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Actually çocuk is more embarressing. In Uyghur bala is used instead.
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awaq and Injimaruq are the higher degrees of oruq in Uyghur.
--> We use ap-, ip-, bem-, sim- and similar prefixes in Tukiye's Turkish for the highest degree.
--->apak -- bembeyaz (whitest)
--->kapkara -- simsiyah (blackest)
--->ipince (thinnest) ------ kapkalın (thickest)
---->I think you understood how we do that.
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Same as Uyghur:
Appaq, qapqara, qipqizil, yapyeşil, köpkök
çopçong (not used for all the adj though.)
Uzaq is also used in Uyghur, but mostly refering to the time. (Bizning körüşmiginimizge uzaq (uzun) boldi.) while Yiraq is for distance: yol yiraq.
Jesur is also used, batur is another word.
Mutlu doesn't ring any bell to me. We also use qutluq for happy.
For mad, telve and delte are also used, with slight differences in meanings.
Palaq is also used in Uyghur.
Some more commonly used adj:
Deep: çongqur
shallaw: teyiz
clean: pakiz, taza
dirty: meynet, qasmaq
strong: küçlük
weak: ajiz, zeyip
spicy (hot): aççiq
sweet: tatliq
tasty: temlik
not tasty: temsiz
sweet (smell): mezilik, puraqliq
bad (smell): sesiq
Now nouns:
Body parts:
çaç (hair), baş (head), pişane (forhead), qaş (eyebrow), qapaq (eyelips), kirpik (eye lash), köz (eye), burun (nose), qulaq (ear), eghiz (mouse), çiş (tooth), til (tounge), kalpuk or lew (lips), burut (moustach), ingek (chin), zangaq (jaw), saqal (beard), boyun (neck), gejde or pattang (back of neck), gal (throat), müre (shoulder), belek (arm), jeynek (back connecter of two arms), beghiş (connecting part of hand and arm), qol (hand), alqan (palm), barmaq (finger), üge (connecter of the fingers), tirnaq (nail), kökrek (upper chest), meyde (lower chest), emçek or memeq(breast), qorsaq (belly), kindik (center of belly?), dömbe (back), bel(wraist), saghra or kasa or qong or köt (buttock), yota (upper leg), tiz (knee), paçaq (lower leg), put (foot), tapan (heel)
menge(brain), öpke (lung), yürek (heart), jiger or beghir (liver), börek (kidney), tal (spleen), üçey (intestine), ashqazan (stumoch), yutqunçaq (path for food?), tomur ( vein), tere (skin), göş or et (meat), söngek or ustihan (bone)
Qan (blood),şÃ¶lgey (sliver), ter (sweat), süydük (urine), poq (shit), yaş (tear), mangqa (nose fluid), yiring (the fluid one extracts when when there is bruise)
sorry for my english. I might have missed some. please add the English one or Turkish one, I'll add the Uyghur one.
Have a nice day!
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28 May 2007 Mon 06:27 am |
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Quote: Quoting korshad:
Actually çocuk is more embarressing. In Uyghur bala is used instead. --> 
(maybe)Almost everyone can understand what BALA means, we don't use it. Some prefer çocuk, some prefer uşak.
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Uzaq is also used in Uyghur, but mostly refering to the time. (Bizning körüşmiginimizge uzaq (uzun) boldi.) while Yiraq is for distance: yol yiraq. Same as Turkish, ırak for distance, uzak/uzun for distance too, where uzun is also used for time.
uzak yol, ırak yok, uzun yol but 'uzun zaman'
uzak maybe used for time in rare cases.
Jesur is also used, batur is another word.
Batur is common as a name in Turkish, not used in talks much
Mutlu doesn't ring any bell to me. We also use qutluq for happy.The root of mutlu looks like 'mut' but it doesn't have a meaning where the root of kutlu, 'kut' has a meaning(holy,happy). I think we changed k --> m in time and some little change in the meaning too.
For mad, telve and delte are also used, with slight differences in meanings. There are many words to identify a mad or foolish person in Turkish, but I don't want to type them here. 
Deep: çongqur derin
shallaw: teyiz sığ
clean: pakiz, taza Pak, arı, temiz. Pakize is a name in Turkish
dirty: meynet, qasmaq kirli, pis
strong: küçlük Strong: güçlü, zorlu / difficulty: güçlük,zorluk
weak: ajiz, zeyip aciz(Arab.), zayıf
spicy (hot): aççiq acı
sweet: tatliq tatlı
tasty: temlik tatlı, lezzetli, tadı hoş
not tasty: temsiz tatsız
sweet (smell): mezilik, puraqliq hoş, güzel, iyi
bad (smell): sesiq kötü, fena
Now nouns:
Body parts:
çaç (hair)saç, baş (head) baş, pişane (forhead)alın, qaş (eyebrow)kaş, qapaq (eyelips)göz kapağı, kirpik (eye lash)kirpik, köz (eye)göz, burun (nose)burun, qulaq (ear)kulak, eghiz (mouse)ağız, çiş (tooth)diş, til (tounge)dil, kalpuk or lew (lips)dudak, burut (moustach)bıyık, ingek (chin)çene, zangaq (jaw)çene, saqal (beard)sakal, boyun (neck)boyun, gejde or pattang (back of neck)ense, gal (throat)boğaz, müre (shoulder)omuz, belek (arm)kol, jeynek (back connecter of two arms)kulunç (?), beghiş (connecting part of hand and arm)bilek, qol (hand)el, alqan (palm)avuçiçi, barmaq (finger)parmak, üge (connecter of the fingers)boğum, tirnaq (nail)tırnak, kökrek (upper chest)göğüs,döş, meyde (lower chest)mide, emçek or memeq(breast)meme, qorsaq (belly)bel/kursak(?), kindik (center of belly?)göbek deliği (?), dömbe (back)sırt, bel(wraist)bel (?), saghra or kasa or qong or köt (buttock)sağrı(for animals), kasa(slang), popo(nice,kind word), göt(not nice), yota (upper leg)baldır, tiz (knee)diz, paçaq (lower leg)paça, bacak for all leg, put (foot)ayak, tapan (heel) topuk
menge(brain)beyin, öpke (lung)ak-ciğer, yürek (heart)kalp, yürek, jiger or beghir (liver)kara-ciğer, börek (kidney)böbrek, tal (spleen)dalak, üçey (intestine)bağırsak or barsak, ashqazan (stumoch)mide, yutqunçaq (path for food?)maybe yutgungaç but we don't use this word verb:yutmak, kursak, boğaz (?), tomur ( vein)damar, tere (skin)deri, göş or et (meat)et, söngek or ustihan (bone)kemik
Qan (blood)kan,şÃ¶lgey (sliver) kıyma (?) poss. wrong, ter (sweat)ter, süydük (urine)sidik, çiş, poq (shit)bok, yaş (tear)yaş, gözyaşı, mangqa (nose fluid)sümük, yiring (the fluid one extracts when when there is bruise) irin
I am not a walking/talking-dictionary. So I maybe skipped some words. But anyone who wants to contribute is welcome.
You too, have a nice day.
Because you are the manager of the thread, I am not adding any words, just giving equivalent of yours. But next time, lets study some tense suffixes or word suffixes.
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| 22. |
28 May 2007 Mon 02:50 pm |
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Quoting SunFlowerSeed:
Deep: çongqur derin
dirty: meynet, qasmaq kirli, pis
tasty: temlik tatlı, lezzetli, tadı hoş
not tasty: temsiz tatsız
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Teren is also used as deep.
kir is dirt.
Lezzetlik is also used.
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gal (throat)boğaz, üge (connecter of the fingers)boğum, kökrek (upper chest)göğüs,döş, kindik (center of belly?)göbek deliği (?), dömbe (back)sırt, bel(wraist)bel (?), put (foot)ayak
üçey (intestine)bağırsak or barsak, ashqazan (stumoch)mide, söngek or ustihan (bone)kemik
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Boghaz is also used.
Boghum is bigger ones, while üge is for small ones such as of fingers.
Töş is animal chest.
do you think there is relation between kende and kindik, now I think there is. However, in Uyghur, oneself is öz.
sırt is outside in Uyghur.
Ayaq is shoes. keş is also used.
we also say üçey-baghri.
meyde aghriqi means stumock ache.
There is a special kind of tissue, not as hard as bone, which we call kömürçek.
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Because you are the manager of the thread, I am not adding any words, just giving equivalent of yours. But next time, lets study some tense suffixes or word suffixes.
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Please add what ever you want. I'm not a linguistist. we can surely change our role. You might know better the word frequency. As I just write the words which pops up my head. I hope as soon as we finish more or less the basic words, we can start with phrases and such.
Basic nouns:
Sun: kün
moon: ay
sky: asman
star: yultuz
earth: yer
soil: topraq
road: yol
mountain: tagh
river: derya
sea: dengız
water: su
air: hava, gaz, yel
house: öy
family: aile
human: adem, kişi, insan
male: er, erkek
female: ayal, hatun
boy: oghul
girl: qiz
baby: bowaq
animal: haywan
tree: dereh, yaghach is wood.
plants: ösümlük
sound: awaz, ün
day: kün, kündüz
night: keçe, tün, ahşam
summer: yaz
autumn: küz
winter: qiş
spring: etiyaz
road: yol
country: dolet, memliket, weten, el
hometown: yurt
city: sheher
shool: mektep
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| 23. |
29 May 2007 Tue 12:32 am |
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Quoting korshad:
Basic nouns:
Sun: kün->güneş
moon: ay->ay
sky: asman->gökyüzü or sema
star: yultuz->yıldız
earth: yer->yer or yeryüzü
soil: topraq->toprak
road: yol->yol
mountain: tagh->dağ
river: derya->ırmak or nehir or akarsu
sea: dengız->deniz
water: su->su
air: hava, gaz, yel->hava(yel means wind in Türkiye Turkish)
house: öy->ev
family: aile->aile
human: adem, kişi, insan->kişi, insan
male: er, erkek->er, erkek
female: ayal, hatun->dişi, kadın
boy: oghul->erkek çocuk or oğlan or oğul
girl: qiz->kız
baby: bowaq->bebek
animal: haywan->hayvan
tree: dereh, yaghach is wood.->ağaç
plants: ösümlük->bitkiler
sound: awaz, ün->ses, seda, avaz
day: kün, kündüz->gün, gündüz
night: keçe, tün, ahşam->gece
summer: yaz->yaz
autumn: küz->güz or sonbahar
winter: qiş->kış
spring: etiyaz->ilkbahar
road: yol->yol
country: dolet, memliket, weten, el->ülke, memleket, vatan
hometown: yurt->yurt
city: sheher->şehir
shool: mektep->okul or mektep
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29 May 2007 Tue 08:18 am |
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Thanks Armegon.
Small additions;
river: derya->ırmak or nehir or akarsu
sea: dengız->deniz Derya means a big sea, or ocean
human: adem, kişi, insan->kişi, insan Ademoğlu, Adam (can be used with all genders as in bilimadamı, işadamı etc, but alone it signifies man.)
But the meaning is changing nowadays and people started to use biliminsanı(for both genders), bilimadamı(male), bilimkadını(woman)
male: er, erkek->er, erkek Adam
tree: dereh, yaghach is wood.->ağaç(tree) wood is odun in Turkish. Morph. od+un (maybe) things used for fire, same as in Uyghur where yagh-ach (yagh:fire, ach: things to use), just a reversed way of thinking
night: keçe, tün, ahşam->gece ahşam -> akşam : evening (slight change in the meaning)
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Here is Turkish tenses. In simple form. Using subject O(U in Uyghur). I have chosen O as subject, because it doesn't have any personal suffix in Turkish at the end of verbs.
-acak Future Tense. -> O Gidecek.
-yor Continuous Tense -> O Gidiyor.
-di/ti Past Tense -> O Gitti.
-miş Far Past Tense that you haven't seen. -> O Gitmiş.
Here "Far Past" is relative to your thoughts. Maybe 1 second earlier, maybe 100000 years earlier. Point is You were not there.
-r General ideas, happenings, events Tense. -> O gider.
This one expresses a a general behaviour. Can be called Wide Tense or Aorist.
An extra: (Since they call it a tense in Korean, and perfectly equal to Turkish one)
-makta (olmak) An action which is being done at the moment. -> O gitmekte. (Can be translated as "he is going at this moment") A moment tense.
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29 May 2007 Tue 01:36 pm |
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Thanks for this topic Korshad. It is very useful to see the similarities between Turkish languages.
Quoting korshad:
There is a special kind of tissue, not as hard as bone, which we call kömürçek.
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And I think kömürçek is kıkırdak(cartilage)
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30 May 2007 Wed 02:36 pm |
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I'm also very thankful for all the active participations.
Faruk, Kömürçek and kıkırdek are different in Uyghur. kıkırdek is the path of the lung. we also call it karnay. kömürchek is a little harder than kıkırdek.
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30 May 2007 Wed 03:02 pm |
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Thanks again SFS and Armagon.
Sama is also used in Uyghur.
Otun is yaghach which is only for burning.
I know Derya is Persian word. Old Turkic word should be say. (Anasay) However, say is used as river bank now. Östeng is small river, Eriq is a stream. Irnak?
For sun, Quyaş is also used.
Quoting SunFlowerSeed:
Here is Turkish tenses. In simple form. Using subject O(U in Uyghur). I have chosen O as subject, because it doesn't have any personal suffix in Turkish at the end of verbs.
-acak Future Tense. -> O Gidecek.
-yor Continuous Tense -> O Gidiyor.
-di/ti Past Tense -> O Gitti.
-miş Far Past Tense that you haven't seen. -> O Gitmiş.
Here "Far Past" is relative to your thoughts. Maybe 1 second earlier, maybe 100000 years earlier. Point is You were not there.
-r General ideas, happenings, events Tense. -> O gider.
This one expresses a a general behaviour. Can be called Wide Tense or Aorist.
An extra: (Since they call it a tense in Korean, and perfectly equal to Turkish one)
-makta (olmak) An action which is being done at the moment. -> O gitmekte. (Can be translated as "he is going at this moment") A moment tense. |
I'm sorry I'm not a linguist, so I'm not very good in grammatical terms (Uyghur verb structure is extremely complicated). Let me try my best (just for comparıson for your lists):
U ketmekçi. (He is going to leave)
U ketidu. (he leaves, or he will leave depend on the time)
U ketti. (He left.)
U ketip boldi. (He has left)
U ketken. (he left quite long before)
U keter. (General tense, and additional meaning difficult to explain)
U ketermiş. (I heard he is going to leave, I have doubts)
U ketmekte. ( he is leaving) (but not a very good example for this verb, as ket only gives the result)
U ketiwatmaqta. (He is leaving and leaving, intensifies the continuity of the action)
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| 28. |
31 May 2007 Thu 05:46 pm |
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Quoting korshad:
Östeng is small river, Dere, Akarsu
Eriq is a stream. Irnak? Irmak, Çay, Nehir(Arab.)
Er <-> Ir
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Thanks Korshad for tenses.
I will examine them.
Anasay - Now I know what Yenisey is Yeni Irmak.
You can continue sharing Uyghur words with us.
Kind regards,
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| 29. |
31 May 2007 Thu 06:01 pm |
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Dear all,
We are like same mother's children. Some of us communicate with other cultures more, some of us dont. We still use our mother language but, ages and different cultures effected how we use it. In my first year at college my prof. said tabışgan in old turkish means tavşan(rabbit) today. İt is originated "tıpış tıpış" tapış tapış tapış-gan the animal which goes tapış tapış(sound effect)! I was impressed, ı am still impressed. Also beghir reng means brown, beygir "mustang color" which is most turks loves to ride. I was thinking all that information was useless but charming just for me to learn, today happy to find a place to show off
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| 30. |
31 May 2007 Thu 06:52 pm |
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THE UYGHUR EMPIRE !
http://www.allempires.com/article/index.php?q=The_Uyghur_Empire
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