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Harassment of the muslim woman in Turkey
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10.       KeithL
1455 posts
 05 Jun 2007 Tue 09:14 pm

And even more direct, which muslim nation would you like to see Turkey to become more like?

11.       Aysenur
45 posts
 05 Jun 2007 Tue 09:15 pm

I really doesn't know the situation in other muslim country because i am not arab... But I know the situation of those girls in Turkey. Yes the turkish governement is not perfect but if by saying this and sitting will change the situation...it is wrong to think like this. To change the things we have to talk and try...
There is of course things good in this governement but there is place to improvement to satisfied all the citizen.

12.       KeithL
1455 posts
 05 Jun 2007 Tue 09:16 pm

Elham, with all due respect, find me a Turkish woman that would trade the freedom she "suffers through" in Turkey for the freedom "you enjoy" in Baghdad...

13.       KeithL
1455 posts
 05 Jun 2007 Tue 09:18 pm

Quoting Aysenur:

I really doesn't know the situation in other muslim country because i am not arab... But I know the situation of those girls in Turkey. Yes the turkish governement is not perfect but if by saying this and sitting will change the situation...it is wrong to think like this. To change the things we have to talk and try...
There is of course things good in this governement but there is place to improvement to satisfied all the citizen.



So rather than criticize a goverment that you know little about, and have nothing to compare it to, work to improve the rights of muslims in your country. I hear muslims are not treated so well in the US. Is this true?

14.       Aysenur
45 posts
 05 Jun 2007 Tue 09:21 pm

Quoting KeithL:

Quoting Aysenur:

I really doesn't know the situation in other muslim country because i am not arab... But I know the situation of those girls in Turkey. Yes the turkish governement is not perfect but if by saying this and sitting will change the situation...it is wrong to think like this. To change the things we have to talk and try...
There is of course things good in this governement but there is place to improvement to satisfied all the citizen.



So rather than criticize a goverment that you know little about, and have nothing to compare it to, work to improve the rights of muslims in your country. I hear muslims are not treated so well in the US. Is this true?



First of all I am not american, I just reside in USA. Second of all you should not be offend by my message because this is purely and simply innocent.

15.       KeithL
1455 posts
 05 Jun 2007 Tue 09:23 pm

I'm not trying to offend you actually. I am only pointing out that muslim women in Turkey are treated better "as muslims" than maybe any country in the world. So rather thn criticize the country where muslim women have it best, why not vocalize the cause in other nations where muslim women have it far, far worse.

16.       elham
579 posts
 05 Jun 2007 Tue 09:27 pm

Arab governments have not violate the rights of women . If there were violations of the rights of Arab women are from people who are far away from Islam, They are extremists who have violated the rights of women, through the enactment of laws such as prevent her driving a vehicle or stay at home or wearing the hijab, which covers all her face, or not to go to beauty shops

17.       Aysenur
45 posts
 05 Jun 2007 Tue 09:28 pm

Quoting KeithL:

I'm not trying to offend you actually. I am only pointing out that muslim women in Turkey are treated better "as muslims" than maybe any country in the world. So rather thn criticize the country where muslim women have it best, why not vocalize the cause in other nations where muslim women have it far, far worse.



You are right that in many points muslim woman in turkey are well treated but this issue can be changed and it will be a good for the turkish society. I have this thing on my heart because if I give birth to a girl and once she can not get good education and she is discriminated because she wears scarf I would be so upset and sad... This is why I would like the things change for the best in turkey. Insha allah.

PS: thank you for the respect because this conversation is strictly in a constructive base...

18.       Gizli Yuz
130 posts
 05 Jun 2007 Tue 09:29 pm

I totally agree with KeithL. A very good observation of Turkey and the Islamic world.

19.       panta rei
0 posts
 05 Jun 2007 Tue 09:30 pm

Quoting KeithL:

And even more direct, which muslim nation would you like to see Turkey to become more like?



Should I want to see Turkey to be any muslim country? Why shall Turkey not be totally different than the available ones? Don't confuse your brain with those of other people! When I mention "the right to wear headscarf/turban not only in private but also public/official areas/places", no muslim country comes to my mind, nor does that have to necesseraily come to! But your such remark shows how rottenly you think and how formed your thought beforehand is!

20.       KeithL
1455 posts
 05 Jun 2007 Tue 09:32 pm

Quoting elham:

Arab governments have not violate the rights of women . If there were violations of the rights of Arab women are from people who are far away from Islam, They are extremists who have violated the rights of women, through the enactment of laws such as prevent her driving a vehicle or stay at home or wearing the hijab, which covers all her face, or not to go to beauty shops



Oh please, we see examples of injustice to women in arab nations all the time. The examples we can list are endless. For example, just recently, the women in tehran that are being arrested for not being dresses conservative enough. Or the women in kuwaut waiting at bustops arrested for not being escorted by a man. Are these violations of human rights not obvious enough to you? Do we need more examples? Create an infinite thread of womens suffering in Arabic nations? Please...

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