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Harassment of the muslim woman in Turkey
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06 Jun 2007 Wed 01:30 am |
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OK. Master! Yes thank god there are laws, and thank god again they cannot change easily as you wish.I am not hiding behind laws. Laws are made by human needs, change by human needs. You have to live the way today, til you reach your goal I did not and I can not preach about şeriat, these are the rules u can easily find on net. Try.
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06 Jun 2007 Wed 01:34 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting aslı: (...)
1. Şeriat does not allow to go 90 km. without a relative man with you.
2. Şeriat does not allows being around and talk nicely with the man who u can marry.
3. Also şeriat does not allow work outside home, if your husband dont want to (in that case most of them dont).
4. Why are you willing so badly go to university if you cannot have a job anyway?
5. If you insist to work, you will be sinner because you have to use vehicle, touch other men, talk other men, have to travel etc.
6. If this is about education, u can attend college at home as u wish.
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Holy crap...... what a God-given slavery. And all this because men are insecure, double-faced, inhumane, jealous perverts with no morals? Who invented these rules!? Women, or their owners???  |
1. In Islam the security of the destination matters while travelling alone as a woman. The max secure destination was 90km then taking transportation vehicles and security into consideration. There is an institution of case law in İslam. Today any woman can travel thousands of miles by herself in security. Today, be a man or woman you cant travel even a hundred meters in some places by yourself.That's the security of destination matters in travelling from one place to another.
2. Yes. Islam allows any man or woman to talk to whom s/he will marry in order to get to know each other.
3. Yes. Islam allows women to work outside home,and talk to other men.
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06 Jun 2007 Wed 01:36 am |
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I did not say Islam! I said şeriat on purpose. Watch out.
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06 Jun 2007 Wed 01:38 am |
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Quoting aslı: I am not hiding behind laws. You have to live the way today, till you reach your goal |
But you are still hiding yourself behind laws. Otherwise, you wouldn't have put that I HAVE TO LIVE THE WAY TODAY. This laws case can be dealth with separately and later as well. Now just simply submit my right and freedom to wear turban! Whether laws allows this or not, or whether I have to live the way today till I reach my goal, is now out of the question/issue.
Again, my right and freedom, just like your right and freedom not to wear turban/headscarf!
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06 Jun 2007 Wed 01:42 am |
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Ok. some can say my right to wear "çarşaf", some can say my right to cover my face. Will you agree with all of those? If not why and how?
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06 Jun 2007 Wed 01:44 am |
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aslı - believe me, I will answer your question. But before that, I am waiting for you to submit/admit (of course, sincerely and honestly not for passing over the matter lightly!) my right and freedom to wear headscarf/turban!
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06 Jun 2007 Wed 01:46 am |
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We have some understanding issue here. Wear it except public area!
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06 Jun 2007 Wed 01:49 am |
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Quoting aslı: Wear it except public area! |
Please read my previous posts in this thread! You will see that I already excluded this condition. Otherwise we all must return to the starting point over and over again.
Well... I am still waiting your submitting/admitting my right and freedom, but sincerely and honestly!
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06 Jun 2007 Wed 01:55 am |
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Panta rei I think you were a male but if you want to wear headscarf so badly what can ı do? Wear it. Do you really think you can change my idea by keep asking the same question over and over again? take your time.
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06 Jun 2007 Wed 01:55 am |
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Well, is there anyone else who is willing to or could give an answer to my question below, except for Ataturk's related(!)view and mentioning the laws (for we already discussed these two points.)?
Quoting panta rei:
Put all secularism, democracy, the republic laws, other muslims countries and the situations and women rights in those countries aside. I, too, need and will need secularism, democracy, the republic laws, and many more as much as everyone else needs. I have no problems with all these; they are always welcome. On the other hand, I do want to wear "turban", this is a human right, my right, my freedom. Just like everyone has the right and freedom not to wear turban wherever they like, I have the same to wear it wherever I like. So, how come my right and freedom to wear turban, can be forbidden?
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06 Jun 2007 Wed 01:56 am |
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Oh boy he is a warrior now.
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