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150.       yilgun-7
1326 posts
 17 Oct 2007 Wed 01:33 am

Aenigma III friend says =
"Yilgun, nobody is saying there was "genocide". I just feel it would be better for the matter to be investigated once and for all so that these "rumour" would not continue to flare up periodically."
This is a right vision...

151.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 17 Oct 2007 Wed 01:37 am

Quoting yilgun-7:

Aenigma III friend says =
"Yilgun, nobody is saying there was "genocide". I just feel it would be better for the matter to be investigated once and for all so that these "rumour" would not continue to flare up periodically."
This is a right vision...



No argument?
Then I may as well go to bed
Iyi geceler

152.       yilgun-7
1326 posts
 17 Oct 2007 Wed 01:41 am

AenigmaIII, iyi geceler.Tatlı rüyalar.Sizi fazla tanımıyorum fakat kaliteli ve kültürlü bir kimsesiniz.Teşekkür ederim...

153.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 17 Oct 2007 Wed 03:51 am

Blood and soil: the global history of genocide

http://www.opendemocracy.net/article/globalisation/visions_reflections/global_history_genocide

154.       fearless
14 posts
 17 Oct 2007 Wed 10:42 am

Quote:

Quoting femme_fatal:





according to your claims, it sounds like theres a strong demonic power on the side of armenians.
armenians have successfully got rid of the ONLY SOLE truth about the genocide all over the world except for the forgotten library of lenin or amazon.com. they have got access to all the libraries in the world and destroyed the sources of facts. nice try! students will love this you are better than dan brown!

bravo for fearless!




What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some people you just can't reach...

155.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 17 Oct 2007 Wed 12:14 pm

to fearless:
if you are grown up, a serious man, not fanatic/nationalistic etc etc, (i guess you re quite young), read the fragment from 'a mysterious book' you posted previous and think a bit if this could be true, or any sane armenian could say this:

'We mutinied against the Turks. We took sides with the Allies, the enemies of the Turks. What we demanded from the Turks was 'an Armenia from one sea to another'. We killed and we were killed. The forced migration was righteous and necessary. We could not see the facts and we were the starters of the incidents. The national struggle of the Turks was righteous. They made the Turkey Armenians subject to a forced migration in summer and autumn of 1915. The Turks knew well what they were doing and there is not a matter they should be regretful about. This was the most proper and certain thing to do.'


do you think that im as naive as the author of this pathetic childish text?
im 100% sure the 21pages book was made up by some uneducated turks (maybe just like you are), not authorised/commented by any significant historian. plus all the refernces are in turkish, which makes it more dodgy.
i also can easily make such fairy tale stories and spread the rumours of its mystery among the poor mentality, to make it more interesting.
i dont buy fairy tales.
i have a big nose to smell it.

cheers

156.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 17 Oct 2007 Wed 03:12 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

The real problem revolves on the fact that Greeks insist on referring to the good old Turkish coffee as the Greek coffee: an unbelievable act of lowest form, which no real Turk can swallow.



What a gem of a post !

I must admit that the English have a similar relationship with the French. Our main problem revolves around food (and the quality of it). Their nickname for us is "roast beef" (an equally unblievable act of the lowest form) and our nickname for them is "froggies" (for frogs legs)".

157.       fearless
14 posts
 17 Oct 2007 Wed 03:24 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

to fearless:



Femme

It is good to see you started to think. I'm neither a fanatic nor a fanatic nationalist, I am here to discuss things and share opinions, that was what I have been asking yourself to do as well, as you might recall.

My age and education level are irrelevant, as are the size of your nose or brain. Moreover, your remarks about the former two are despicable.

Yes the text sounds simple, that is because it is not a direct excerpt, instead it is multiple separate sentences put together in order to form a summary. I do not possess the book, even if i did, I could not quote 23 pages here.

Well, sane or not, the author was the first prime minister of Armenia and it is an official report from the congress.

So you think anyone can publish books under a state leader's name and give manipulated information, without being contradicted? Good idea then, I should consider publishing a book, written by, say, George W. Bush. The title could be something like "The hell with democracy, we're there for the oil!". What do you think?

Regards,

____________________________________________________________
I'll climb that hill in my own way,
Just wait a while for the right day...



158.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 17 Oct 2007 Wed 03:27 pm

Quoting fearless:

____________________________________________________________
I'll climb that hill in my own way,
Just wait a while for the right day...



Fearless why do you write your "motto" after every post? One of the things I love about this site is the lack of such annoying things! Grrrrrrrr!

159.       teaschip
3870 posts
 17 Oct 2007 Wed 03:35 pm

Fearless just to give you some statistics on the misconseption of oil the U.S. gets from Iraq take a look.

Importance of Iraqi Oil to the U.S.

The United States imported 11.3 million barrels of oil from Iraq. In comparison, imports from other major OPEC oil-producing countries included:

Saudi Arabia - 56.2 million barrels
Venezuela 20.2 million barrels
Nigeria 19.3 million barrels
Kuwait - 5.9 million barrels
Algeria - 1.2 million barrels

Leading imports from non-OPEC countries

Canada 46.2 million barrels
Mexico 53.8 million barrels
United Kingdom 11.7 million barrels
Norway 4.5 million barrels

160.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 17 Oct 2007 Wed 03:58 pm

Quoting fearless:


So you think anyone can publish books under a state leader's name and give manipulated information, without being contradicted? Good idea then, I should consider publishing a book, written by, say, George W. Bush. The title could be something like "The hell with democracy, we're there for the oil!". What do you think?


absolutely possible! you dont need to write the truth and yet still can publish a book full of rubbish.

to me its EOT
im not going to dispute on a dodgy book

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