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150.       vineyards
1954 posts
 07 Dec 2007 Fri 01:12 am

Quoting alameda:

Quoting vineyards:

Seems she wasn't as famous as the incident...



Actually she was very famous. She is attributed as the founder of Modern Dance.

Isadora Duncan



now I remember watching a documentary on her life. As I hate dancing, I was not very interested but got sorry when I learned about her tragic death.

151.       catwoman
8933 posts
 07 Dec 2007 Fri 01:14 am

Quoting vineyards:

Many people think Rock Hudson sucked as an actor but I think differently. He was a classic. Someone whom I envied a lot when I was a child. A bit disillisioned though when I learned about his sexual tendency.


What do you mean disillusioned? Disillusioned about his acting skills because of his "sexual tendency"? Are you a homophobe?

152.       vineyards
1954 posts
 07 Dec 2007 Fri 01:18 am

No but I suffer from aquaphobia. For that reason I swim very carefully. I never go too far.

As Aenigma said, he fooled people so much so that I got disillisioned on learning that he wasn't the guy I believed he was. (e.g. an uncle)

153.       vineyards
1954 posts
 07 Dec 2007 Fri 01:20 am

Did you see A Special Day that featured Sophia Loren and Marcello Mastroianni, that was one of the best films I've watched from that era.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Special_Day

154.       alameda
3499 posts
 07 Dec 2007 Fri 01:23 am

Another interesting dancer in that time was Loie Fuller

Loie Fuller (also Loïe Fuller, born Marie Louise Fuller) (January 15, 1862–January 1, 1928) was a pioneer of both modern dance and theatrical lighting techniques.

Fuller is responsible for the European tours of the early modern dancers (she was the first American modern dancer to perform in Europe), introducing Isadora Duncan to Parisian audiences and developing the acceptance of modern dance as a serious art form. Her 'Chinese dancers' were the subject of the second section of W.B. Yeats' poem 'Nineteen Hundred and Nineteen'.

155.       catwoman
8933 posts
 07 Dec 2007 Fri 03:04 am

Quoting Cacık:

Hey Catwoman, I think I should have stated this earlier as I believe our dialogue would not have come this far - sorry - what I refer to is the hard-liner feminists. The ones who shout at a man for opening a door for them, the ones who slander many woman for putting on a smudge of make-up, the ones who try to so tough. I am grateful to many things the feminist movements has achieved and as you quite-rightly mentioned, some feminists are happily married or happily single, professional hard working women. I was referring to the minority of hard-liners. So apologies catwoman - my first post must have sounded like a generalisation and it was not meant to be so. Let me say then, hard-liner feminism is equal to chauvanism - in my opinion.


Thank you for the explanation. I agree that the type of hard-liner feminists you have described are a bit obsessed rather then rational, however there's a HUGE difference between male chauvinism when men "think" women shouldn't do anything other then cooking or that women aren't as smart as men or any other abhorrent shit and hard line feminists who don't want men to open door for them. So I find it offensive to equate these two. In the worst case, those hard line feminists have a reason to be angry with men, even though they might not be doing all the things right.
At the same time, feminism is really about equality and humanism. It is also about freedom for men - freedom from the socially defined gender roles - men should be able to enjoy fatherhood, they shouldn't have to pretend they have no feelings... etc. I have no clue why some people are so afraid of the word "feminism", it must really be the work of some angry men who feel like their unconditional social power is at stake and therefore created a backlash against feminism.

156.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 07 Dec 2007 Fri 03:16 am

All the feminist ladies I know look like men !

Is that a prereqisite to become a feminist?

157.       catwoman
8933 posts
 07 Dec 2007 Fri 03:32 am

Quoting AlphaF:

All the feminist ladies I know look like men !
Is that a prereqisite to become a feminist?


158.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 07 Dec 2007 Fri 03:36 am

Quoting AlphaF:

All the feminist ladies I know look like men !

Is that a prereqisite to become a feminist?



Sadly yes
I look so much like a man that I started to get jealous of pretty girls so became a feminist

Its sad

159.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 07 Dec 2007 Fri 05:13 am

Quoting vineyards:


As Aenigma said, he fooled people so much so that I got disillisioned on learning that he wasn't the guy I believed he was. (e.g. an uncle)



Pssstt....he was an ACTOR! He made a living fooling people into thinking he was someone he wasn't...as all actors do!
But hey viney if you believed the man was your uncle.....I'm thinking you have more pressing issues than aquaphobia.

160.       catwoman
8933 posts
 07 Dec 2007 Fri 08:55 am

Quoting AEnigma III:

Sadly yes
I look so much like a man that I started to get jealous of pretty girls so became a feminist

Its sad


Same here... whenever I talk about feminism, I notice male features on my body popping up. After the small conversation with Cacik, to my horror, I noticed that a penis started growing on my back. I'm hoping that if I spend some time cooking, it will reverse it.. Would I ever get married with a penis on my back???

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