Quoting AEnigma III:

Sadly yes
I look so much like a man that I started to get jealous of pretty girls so became a feminist

Its sad

Quoting vineyards:

Femme you mix up reasoning with faith. Your mind tells you that Islam is wrong, biased towards males etc. For a believer what you are saying doesn't hold any water at all. Because there is no reason in religion there are just revelations which prohibit certain things and allow others. When you believe in God, you do not stand a chance to appear in front of God and say what you are ordering me is wrong. Essentially, your brain is a product of God therefore if God says you are a mob you wouldn't help getting dipped in a bucket and wipe the ground. There are no freedoms in religion except for those granted by God.

You are free to believe in whatever you want but you are not welcome to criticize other believers. I usually think I am a reasonable person who has some intelligence. Do I know what human was made for? I don't have the first idea. I don't know who God is. I don't know what God expects of us. I really don't understand those who have devoted themselves to one of the available options. Nevertheless, I can't claim to know more than they do about what man's duty in this universe is.

Do you sincerely hope to start a new fashion in countries where women voluntarily or unvoluntarily wear hijabs by shouting those slogans? Who will care about your invitations? How do you hope to achieve that before correcting the major failures of those societies in other departments?

Such things require a lot of self-sacrifice; painstaking efforts, years of work and careful planning. Proving that is so easy. Would you devote your personal resources to free one such Afghani woman and watch her transform herself into a Western woman. Unless you physically change her environment and support her for an extended period of time she cannot complete the transformation as quickly as you are implying in your slogans. Were the civilized female population geniunely interested in this problem, there would be people who'd actively fight for this cause and free a number of individuals every year.

Last but not least, slogans can be effective but in the end, it is the deeds that matter. As we Turks say: "Don't pound water in a mortar"

Quoting vineyards:

Such fundemental decisions are already punishable by law, so nothing is left uncovered. Our ancestors must have thought about that already. Terrorists are either shot down in mountains or apprehended by the police.

Quoting azade:

Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting azade: (and lower necklines are increasing in popularity aenigma and femme ) Am I supposed to be impressed?

Quoting alameda:

Did you see the veiled women links I uploaded in this thread? They are all Greek from around the 3rd Century BC.

Quoting alameda:

However...The Cult of Isis was not a patriarchal society ....nor was the Cult of Demeter...

I have seen wonderful photos of Audrey Hepburn with a scarf looking quite chic.

Quoting alameda:

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! don't ask, or expect me to defend Saudi Arabia's situation. They are a very radical and reactionary group.

Quoting AEnigma III:

He must have been a GREAT actor. He fooled so many women for so many years (including my mother who adored him )

Quoting alameda:

Another interesting dancer in that time was Loie Fuller

Loie Fuller (also Loïe Fuller, born Marie Louise Fuller) (January 15, 1862–January 1, 1928) was a pioneer of both modern dance and theatrical lighting techniques.

Fuller is responsible for the European tours of the early modern dancers (she was the first American modern dancer to perform in Europe), introducing Isadora Duncan to Parisian audiences and developing the acceptance of modern dance as a serious art form. Her 'Chinese dancers' were the subject of the second section of W.B. Yeats' poem 'Nineteen Hundred and Nineteen'.