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07 Dec 2007 Fri 12:23 am |
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Quoting vineyards: You look very graceful in that traditional dress Azade. What region is that? |
Yes you look very pretty Azade. I can see that this makes you an authority on cultural issues 
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07 Dec 2007 Fri 12:25 am |
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Quoting vineyards: You look very graceful in that traditional dress Azade. What region is that? |
Thanks vineyards  The dresses are from Hakkâri but they use these kinds of dresses in many south-eastern cities. Elderly women wear them every day, but less festive, of course. Younger women only use them for parties, as most of them have abandoned their cultural dress for more western-like clothes. They come in all colours (and lower necklines are increasing in popularity aenigma and femme  )
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07 Dec 2007 Fri 12:28 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: So if somebody makes a fundemental decision in life to become a terrorist, I should not criticise either?  |
Perhaps on telephone or by e-mails only. Critisizing a terrorist at close range is not recommended ! 
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07 Dec 2007 Fri 12:29 am |
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Quoting azade: (and lower necklines are increasing in popularity aenigma and femme ) |
Am I supposed to be impressed? 
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07 Dec 2007 Fri 12:30 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting vineyards: You look very graceful in that traditional dress Azade. What region is that? |
Yes you look very pretty Azade. I can see that this makes you an authority on cultural issues |
Yes indeed I know everything because I wear the magical clothes. Don't tell anyone but it's actually the silver belt, once you try it on you're reaching new depths of wisdom I tell ya
Well no but I still thinks it's pretty. Look at my country for example, almost completely stripped of culture (unless popular culture counts). We used to have something that resembles norwegian national clothes if you have ever seen that? But not a single time have I seen anyone wearing it. Of course, our relatives in Norway still use it when they come down here for family parties, only a few looks here and there, now isn't that nice
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07 Dec 2007 Fri 12:31 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting azade: (and lower necklines are increasing in popularity aenigma and femme ) |
Am I supposed to be impressed? |
Glad to see that reaction, actually. Maybe that was more directed to femme then.
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07 Dec 2007 Fri 12:33 am |
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Hey, let's forget about this topic and enjoy ourselves. It is party time.
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07 Dec 2007 Fri 12:33 am |
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Quoting azade: There are also levels of criticism, ways of delivering it, etc.
See if what you really wanted to do was to teach me something about life, you would need to do it in a different manner. Oha has this backfired. Empathy is supposed to be learnt as a teen as far as I remember.... |
I am not arrogant enough to believe I could teach ANYONE about life. I am allowed to criticise your opinions about a culture that oppresses though.
Evil nasty AEnigma is upsetting people again. She is so disrespectful to other people's faith!!! She will go to hell for having no religion and for daring to feel compassion for people who suffer terrible lives. Those she criticises, will of course be in eternal paradise for ignoring it and pretending it does not exist 
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07 Dec 2007 Fri 12:33 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Well, in that case, I should apologise to people here who may sometimes feel offended that I find their personal decision to ignore cruelty, oppression, murder in the name of honour, abuse and rape abhorrent! I realise that it is not a crime to ignore such things and therefore you may not be shot or arrested by police (Vineyards definition of the only things I may critcise)
I would hate to offend their feelings!
What a selfish world this is.. |
My dear AEnigmaIII....do you really think anyone here seriously supports honor killing, abuse or rape? I for one think they are absolutly horrendous and will do what I can to prevent such actions. What on earth does this have to do with a woman wearing a head covering?
Just because a woman covers her head does not mean she is oppressed, being raped or abused. Maybe she is having a bad hair day. Too much attention and assumptions are made regarding head covering. Why make such a big deal about it?
In fact, the tradition of wearing veils began as a status symbol. From what research I've been able to find, it was part of the initiation rights of the cult of Isis. "no man can see my face" It spread around the Mediterranian as the Cult of Demeter, Our Lady of Biblos and so forth.
Did you see the veiled women links I uploaded in this thread? They are all Greek from around the 3rd Century BC.
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07 Dec 2007 Fri 12:36 am |
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Alameda don't patronise me!!! You know VERY well what I am talking about!!!
3rd century BC!!!!
The whole bloody world was, and to a certain extent is STILL in a patriarchal society!
Luckily some have progressed, however unwillingly it was received by men, because we have basic human rights as women that have to be met!
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07 Dec 2007 Fri 12:41 am |
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...ask Elham if she wears a headscarf because she is having a "bad hair day"....
Offfffffff ya!
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