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AN IMPORTANT NIGHT
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13 Dec 2007 Thu 07:04 pm |
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Quoting alameda: I would not discount my opinion as "rubbish" and why is your blood boiling because I have expressed an opinion? I have not denigrated your opinions, nor does my blood boil because you disagree with me. I actually think about what you write and try to give thoughtful responses. |
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13 Dec 2007 Thu 07:56 pm |
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Quoting alameda: Quoting femme_fatal: .....................alameda, you make my blood boil when you speak such rubbish.
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I would not discount my opinion as "rubbish" and why is your blood boiling because I have expressed an opinion? I have not denigrated your opinions, nor does my blood boil because you disagree with me. I actually think about what you write and try to give thoughtful responses. |
im informing you what happens to my blood pressure when you speak rubbish.
and give me a break with your thoughtful responses.
so far only thoughtful opinion i read from you was about exploding whales.
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13 Dec 2007 Thu 08:22 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: im informing you what happens to my blood pressure when you speak rubbish. and give me a break with your thoughtful responses.
so far only thoughtful opinion i read from you was about exploding whales. |
Rubbish to some, treasures to others Fem....regarding the exploding whales, that was a report on a factual happening, not my opinion.
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13 Dec 2007 Thu 08:28 pm |
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Back to the original post....I hope all these young men come home healthy and in one piece.
I would like to interject...if military service is going to be mandatory anywhere...the governments need to hold themselves to the highest standards in training and if someone is hurt because they were not properly or completely trained, the families of these victims need to be compensated.
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13 Dec 2007 Thu 08:30 pm |
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Quoting alameda: Quoting femme_fatal: im informing you what happens to my blood pressure when you speak rubbish. and give me a break with your thoughtful responses.
so far only thoughtful opinion i read from you was about exploding whales. |
Rubbish to some, treasures to others Fem....regarding the exploding whales, that was a report on a factual happening, not my opinion. |
oh, sorry, i meant the exploding facts, not your r... opinion.
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13 Dec 2007 Thu 08:32 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: Back to the original post....I hope all these young men come home healthy and in one piece.
I would like to interject...if military service is going to be mandatory anywhere...the governments need to hold themselves to the highest standards in training and if someone is hurt because they were not properly or completely trained, the families of these victims need to be compensated. |
Perfectly stated!
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13 Dec 2007 Thu 08:39 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: Back to the original post....I hope all these young men come home healthy and in one piece.
I would like to interject...if military service is going to be mandatory anywhere...the governments need to hold themselves to the highest standards in training and if someone is hurt because they were not properly or completely trained, the families of these victims need to be compensated. |
They need to be compensated no matter what. The Turkish citizens should be demanding more education & compensation if their government is forced to make them serve.
A note to Omega; some of the Turks may see this as a priviledge to serve in your military, however I know many Turks here in the U.S. who ran like hell from your country, just to avoid serving. With the number of citizens in Turkey, it should not be mandated...
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13 Dec 2007 Thu 08:46 pm |
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turkey is threatened by the whole world thats why it should be ready for any attack, esp from evil amerikans.
the thing is that its very difficult to quit the old tradition - i.e. army. turks were always soldiers. and why today they shouldnt be, they think. their ancestors were "real men" taking part in peaceful actions, why not them today?
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13 Dec 2007 Thu 08:54 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: turkey is threatened by the whole world thats why it should be ready for any attack, esp from evil amerikans.
the thing is that its very difficult to quit the old tradition - i.e. army. turks were always soldiers. and why today they shouldnt be, they think. their ancestors were "real men" taking part in peaceful actions, why not them today? |
Here is the most ridiculous thing about their military. If you don't want to serve, you can pay the government $7,000 U.S. dollars. So, basically your buying off the government. Now how rational is that...
So let me see, just how many people can afford to pay off their government for not serving in the military in Turkey.
I agree most Turks were soldiers their fathers, grandfathers, so they are accustomed to serve their country. But what about the men that don't or refuse. What happens to these men...
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13 Dec 2007 Thu 09:06 pm |
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...they go to prison as far as I know.
Actually we were told that you can't buy yourself out of the army anymore. We wanted to do it but nobody wanted to spill the beans on how to do it. It seemed very hush hush so I think you have to know certain people for it to work. That's just the impression I got, I don't know what's true. But we did try really hard to find out how to do it.
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13 Dec 2007 Thu 09:17 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: Back to the original post....I hope all these young men come home healthy and in one piece.
I would like to interject...if military service is going to be mandatory anywhere...the governments need to hold themselves to the highest standards in training and if someone is hurt because they were not properly or completely trained, the families of these victims need to be compensated. |
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