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Two thirds of young women in Turkey sit at home
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30 Jul 2008 Wed 11:32 am |
Quoting pansi: i meant that women are brave and on the same level when everyhting is perfect but in the end they still need men advice. |
OHA! How about they need SPECIALIST´s advice not MEN´s! Men are not born with intrinsic knowledge of car mechanics. Can you please provide an example of women needing men´s advice in issues pertaining to male´s inborn abilities not learnt things? I don´t think so!
Quote: do you really think that if sending women who doesnt have any work experience and knowledge to work will heal society and make them more statisfied about their life? |
Could it be that´s why so many people here claim that women should get proper education? What´s the difference between an uneducated man and uneducated woman? They are both hard to expect to love their jobs...
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30 Jul 2008 Wed 11:41 am |
I´m not on any side. Rather I want to show you the dilemma.
The main drawback for woman in the modern world is giving birth to a child, being mother.
The woman´s body has been designed to be a mother, to care for the children, not just uterus, but with all the motherhood hormones. So, I find the claim that a father can equally raise up a child a bit weak.
The mother-to-be cannot do the same job when she gets pregnant. Forexample, me, I won´t be able to work in the chemistry lab if I get pregnant. So, maybe I have to change all my career plans, I won´t be considered for some projects, I´ll be discriminated.
Or, you cannot do the same heavy job, you cannot lift stuff etc that man can do either. And after you give birth, you need to rest. And you have to breastfeed your child, there are some who even advice to breastfeed till 3 years old. Can a man breastfeed?
Could you claim that a father can equally raise up a child till the age of 3-4 the way a mother raises up? It´s not about knowing how to cook and feed. The baby have developped in the mother´s womb, and he has special attachment to his mother.
So, in my opinion, it was not for nothing, if for thousands of years woman stayed at home and cared for the children. Now, the time has changed, and woman can work as well, and has to earn her own money, but before we attack the traditional opinions, we have to ask why it has been so, and what will be the consequences if we totally refuse the traditional family structure.
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30 Jul 2008 Wed 11:43 am |
i am so sorry that i opened my mouth.as i am dumb and dont know anything about turkish women and relations and life generally (even i am sociologist and have traveled pretty much).but i still think before trying to change the world you should ask - is it ok for them also who rights you are protecting or trying to get.ok - you all are right!!!tamam mı?have a good day!
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30 Jul 2008 Wed 11:44 am |
Quoting mltm: I´m not on any side. Rather I want to show you the dilemma.
The main drawback for woman in the modern world is giving birth to a child, being mother.
The woman´s body has been designed to be a mother, to care for the children, not just uterus, but with all the motherhood hormones. So, I find the claim that a father can equally raise up a child a bit weak.
The mother-to-be cannot do the same job when she gets pregnant. Forexample, me, I won´t be able to work in the chemistry lab if I get pregnant. So, maybe I have to change all my career plans, I won´t be considered for some projects, I´ll be discriminated.
Or, you cannot do the same heavy job, you cannot lift stuff etc that man can do either. And after you give birth, you need to rest. And you have to breastfeed your child, there are some who even advice to breastfeed till 3 years old. Can a man breastfeed?
Could you claim that a father can equally raise up a child till the age of 3-4 the way a mother raises up? It´s not about knowing how to cook and feed. The baby have developped in the mother´s womb, and he has special attachment to his mother.
So, in my opinion, it was not for nothing, if for thousands of years woman stayed at home and cared for the children. Now, the time has changed, and woman can work as well, and has to earn her own money, but before we attack the traditional opinions, we have to ask why it has been so, and what will be the consequences if we totally refuse the traditional family structure. |
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30 Jul 2008 Wed 11:50 am |
Quoting Daydreamer:
OHA! How about they need SPECIALIST´s advice not MEN´s! Men are not born with intrinsic knowledge of car mechanics. Can you please provide an example of women needing men´s advice in issues pertaining to male´s inborn abilities not learnt things? I don´t think so!
Could it be that´s why so many people here claim that women should get proper education? What´s the difference between an uneducated man and uneducated woman? They are both hard to expect to love their jobs... |
nothing gives me more pleasure than to read posts with great wisdom..(and I am not going to mention the effect like ´arrows from eros´ these posts have )
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30 Jul 2008 Wed 12:24 pm |
Quoting mltm: I´m not on any side. Rather I want to show you the dilemma.
The main drawback for woman in the modern world is giving birth to a child, being mother.
The woman´s body has been designed to be a mother, to care for the children, not just uterus, but with all the motherhood hormones. So, I find the claim that a father can equally raise up a child a bit weak.
The mother-to-be cannot do the same job when she gets pregnant. Forexample, me, I won´t be able to work in the chemistry lab if I get pregnant. So, maybe I have to change all my career plans, I won´t be considered for some projects, I´ll be discriminated.
Or, you cannot do the same heavy job, you cannot lift stuff etc that man can do either. And after you give birth, you need to rest. And you have to breastfeed your child, there are some who even advice to breastfeed till 3 years old. Can a man breastfeed?
Could you claim that a father can equally raise up a child till the age of 3-4 the way a mother raises up? It´s not about knowing how to cook and feed. The baby have developped in the mother´s womb, and he has special attachment to his mother.
So, in my opinion, it was not for nothing, if for thousands of years woman stayed at home and cared for the children. Now, the time has changed, and woman can work as well, and has to earn her own money, but before we attack the traditional opinions, we have to ask why it has been so, and what will be the consequences if we totally refuse the traditional family structure. |
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You sound sexist and accepted the idea of ´men and women are not equal´..
There are millions of children in this world being looked after by inadequate mothers. A caring father would do a better job for example.
And I dont want to go into the importance of breast feeding but many mothers do not produce enough milk and babies are fed with milupa type things.
But the reality is that men insisting that mother has to look after the children is coming from purely sexism. There is threat over there to women saying that ´if you dont accept this traditional motherly role, I may not accept you´
It is old style bullying and showing a upper hand basically..
Traditional values and all those blah blahs after that is pure hypocrisy ..Because leaving your job, breaking of your career, spending day after day, years after years at home trying to raise children is more difficult than occasional cooking..
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30 Jul 2008 Wed 12:29 pm |
Quoting thehandsom: You sound sexist and accepted the idea of ´men and women are not equal´..
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Do you want me to tell you one thing handsome? Not me, God was sexist when he created man and woman.
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30 Jul 2008 Wed 12:32 pm |
Quoting mltm: Quoting thehandsom: You sound sexist and accepted the idea of ´men and women are not equal´..
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Do you want me to tell you one thing handsome? Not me, God was sexist when he created man and woman. |
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Meltem..sorry to shutter your platform you are standing but there is no scientific evidence so far that ´God ever existed´
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30 Jul 2008 Wed 12:38 pm |
I think thehansome may also need to spend some time at "The Biology Class" Website.
Yes, whether you believe in God or not,(another choice that you are ridiculing by the way), men and women do have different bilogical and chemical makeups.
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30 Jul 2008 Wed 12:43 pm |
Quoting KeithL: I think thehansome may also need to spend some time at "The Biology Class" Website.
Yes, whether you believe in God or not,(another choice that you are ridiculing by the way), men and women do have different bilogical and chemical makeups. |
Thanks for the advice!!
About ridiculing, if somebody has no other ideas than ´but god created us that way´ and me saying that ´there is no scientific evidence if god ever existed´ is ridiculing, then, let it be..
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30 Jul 2008 Wed 12:53 pm |
So anyone who believes in God is simple-minded?
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