I think there lies the message, why want to be the head, while you are the neck??

 never! what for?

 After that, how would you feel, somebody getting up calling you, a slave, your mother haven´t taught you how to be free?

Trudy just asked me why I wasn´t contributing to this thread.  I haven´t read any of it because it doesn´t really interest me.  I don´t consider women are equal to men - I consider they are far superior - end of story.

 well, i didnt know you have all the money in the world

maybe you wanna re-read your first posts? in order to understant my reaction (and not only mine)?

 folks, its written in the bible.

btw, "the greek fat wedding" is wonderful. everytime i watch laugh so loud that my children want to watch it again in order to understand it.

Merih, are you forgetting this very statement?? Now when I suggest being on the same level as men, you suddenly say we are "above" them? stronger? Smarter? etc. 

When I say "leveling up" I´m simply saying having the exact same options. Nothing more, nothing less. As in... a promiscuous man is "experianced," a woman with the same tendancies is a slut, easy, etc.

I plainly think, that judgments and oportunities of women should be equal. THAT INCLUDES, being a stay at home PARENT (father or mother)

I do not expect or even want to be a superior species to man, just equal. I think there is nothing wrong with being held up to their level

 I relaly liked the film too but I thought it was a bit superficial, I suppose it could have been much funnier! There is a Turkish-German version of it too ´Benim çýlðýn Türk düðünüm´ (Meine verrückte türkische Hochzeit). Its about a German who falls in love with a Turkish girl (the actress was half german half indian though ) from a rather conservative family. he then becomes muslim etc etc. It all went kind of fast, but it was still a nice film as well.

i dont understand merih´s posts. now im thinking that i dont believe her.

what i understand from her posts is that she lives in a cruel feminist society where all women are forced to work even if they have good source of money. her grandma and mom suffered under the feminist regime. the regime that doesnt allow her to be a happy mother. ?!?

and one more thing, why do eastern women have an obsession with education thing. they always have to highlite or declare their education. so far i didnt see anyone judging your opinion on the base of your degree. i personally dont care for degrees. i read what you write and i can see your cultural background. but i dont adjust my opinion to the degree on your wall or in your pocket.

im reading this report, quite interesting. im surprised that the phillippinnes are right after 5 nordic countries.

and italy 84?

surprised to learn about my country that outranks turkey

japan and korea are so low

wow! great discussion going on... I´ve read all the posts and i have to agree with Merih about the points she has said, my sentiments exactly about marriage life... and Deli is right about the headscarf issue.