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Turkey ranks low in world gender equality index
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70.       Merih
933 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:07 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

It is not a difficult question what I would do if I had all the money in the world. Work is the wrong answer.   But hey, I don´t have children so that question will never be my problem. Probably all you mothers can´t understand but I never wanted children and not for a second I regret that decision. 

 

I respect and appreciate..  Thanks

 

71.       Merih
933 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:08 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

 

The problem is taht we are still thinking by the male-structured values. Raising children is not something that men do much of, therefore it is not seen as a worthwhile task. The society does not value raising children as important, well-paid job (as it should be valued). Raising children IS a very important part of live and it should be given an appropriate social value, because at this point, it is seen as unpaid, ungrateful women´s work.

 

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72.       Merih
933 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:09 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Why ´traditional ways of course´?

 

 Because other than traditional ways, you don´t need the second person to attend the ceremony{#lang_emotions_lol}

73.       karekin04
565 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:11 pm

 

Quoting Merih

What I don´t like is the attitude of these women who think that they can talk for me like I don´t have the ability to talk for myself or even to make a choice of working or not, and that i am a slave if I take care of my family, and i am uneducated if I am not working, and blah blah...

 

I don´t like that either I would never act that way to you or anyone else {#lang_emotions_flowers} ........... so long as it is a choice to be wife and mother.

If I could have any job I wanted, that would be it.

Also to Trudy, I so admire your choice as well{#lang_emotions_flowers}

74.       catwoman
8933 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:11 pm

 

Quoting Merih

I agree.  But how can you decide about it at looking at how many woman senators are there in a country?  Or how many working woman? Does it tell all?  Pakistan was the first country to have a female Prime Minister, does it mean, women equality is there?

 

Again... couldn´t agree more... However, looking at the number of women senators IS an important aspect as well. If women are not involved in important social decision making then by definition, the society is dominated by men.

75.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:13 pm

 

Quoting Merih

 Because other than traditional ways, you don´t need the second person to attend the ceremony{#lang_emotions_lol}

 

 Huh? Blond probably, I don´t get it. (Sorry.)

76.       Merih
933 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:14 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Again... couldn´t agree more... However, looking at the number of women senators IS an important aspect as well. If women are not involved in important social decision making then by definition, the society is dominated by men.

 

 Well, isn´t it a FACT that the world is dominated by MEN?.. Is there any country in the wrold who has the same amount of both genders for every occupation?.. the answer is no..

 

we are just looking at who has the highest percentage and then rank them accordingly..

 

so where is the real equality?

77.       Merih
933 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:17 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Huh? Blond probably, I don´t get it. (Sorry.)

 

 Well, do you know how we make babies in the traditional way??? Man and woman???

 

so if you were to adopt as a single mum, or decide to have a child on your own, you do not need the man present in your bedroom, so you don´t actually bring something into life together?

 

 

That is what I meant, in case somebody gets up and says, no, you don´t need two persons, yesterday I went and I had it done by myself??

 

By the way, i sometimes have blond days too... that´s acceptable I guess.

78.       alameda
3499 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:18 pm

 

Quoting karekin04

Well you didn´t quite clear things up for me as I was so hoping I thought you would have something to say, proving that the man could just as well as the woman be dominant parent, Even if not actually birthing the child.......

 

so what I will take away from this is that there is no better parent then mother!

(I do so agree with that)

 

 Actually, I think the idea that it´s "more enlightened" for women to have outside careers is the problem. I don´t see what is wrong with a woman being a stay at home mother/wife.

 

There is no reason she can´t be educated, in fact she should be educated. There is a lot to learn to be an efficient and effective homemaker. In no way is it a simple task.

 

Creating a healthful enviornment, healthy meals and knowing some of those much maligned "old wives remedies" (from which a lot of modern medicine is indebted to) is a valuable contribution to society.

 

There is no reason a stay at home mother/wife can´t be a contributing member of society, particularly in light of today´s Internet options. I think we should rethink things. Why should women have to fit into the male model?

 

Can´t we expand and have a more evolved method. Certainly the way male careers have evloved has been to their advantage. What about females? Why try to fid a round peg in a square hole?

 

As for what parent is dominant, that is up to the family. Sometimes it´s the female, other times it´s the male.

79.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:19 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

It is not a difficult question what I would do if I had all the money in the world. Work is the wrong answer.   But hey, I don´t have children so that question will never be my problem. Probably all you mothers can´t understand but I never wanted children and not for a second I regret that decision. 

 

 I understand...I just don´t remember what it was like before children!!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast} 

80.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:21 pm

 

Quoting Merih

 Well, do you know how we make babies in the traditional way??? Man and woman???

 

so if you were to adopt as a single mum, or decide to have a child on your own, you do not need the man present in your bedroom, so you don´t actually bring something into life together?

 

 

That is what I meant, in case somebody gets up and says, no, you don´t need two persons, yesterday I went and I had it done by myself??

 

By the way, i sometimes have blond days too... that´s acceptable I guess.

 

Making a child is something that can be done within minutes (seconds?   ), raising one is something different to me. A gay couple (m/m of f/f) can be wonderful parents in my view and still the ´making of´ can be done traditional.... (or you go to THE bank..... lol )

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