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Turkey ranks low in world gender equality index
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12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:21 pm |
Well, do you know how we make babies in the traditional way??? Man and woman???
so if you were to adopt as a single mum, or decide to have a child on your own, you do not need the man present in your bedroom, so you don´t actually bring something into life together?
That is what I meant, in case somebody gets up and says, no, you don´t need two persons, yesterday I went and I had it done by myself??
By the way, i sometimes have blond days too... that´s acceptable I guess.
Making a child is something that can be done within minutes (seconds? ), raising one is something different to me. A gay couple (m/m of f/f) can be wonderful parents in my view and still the ´making of´ can be done traditional.... (or you go to THE bank..... )
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12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:22 pm |
Well, isn´t it a FACT that the world is dominated by MEN?.. Is there any country in the wrold who has the same amount of both genders for every occupation?.. the answer is no..
we are just looking at who has the highest percentage and then rank them accordingly..
so where is the real equality?
I think that there is no place with real equality... anywhere.
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12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:22 pm |

The problem is taht we are still thinking by the male-structured values. Raising children is not something that men do much of, therefore it is not seen as a worthwhile task. The society does not value raising children as important, well-paid job (as it should be valued). Raising children IS a very important part of live and it should be given an appropriate social value, because at this point, it is seen as unpaid, ungrateful women´s work.
Yes, it´s probably the most important job in the world. It´s sad that teachers, home care professionals are so underappreciated. It´s not all about money. Maybe all those who do those jobs should go on strike....see where we would be then.
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12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:22 pm |
Actually, I think the idea that it´s "more enlightened" for women to have outside careers is the problem. I don´t see what is wrong with a woman being a stay at home mother/wife.
There is no reason she can´t be educated, in fact she should be educated. There is a lot to learn to be an efficient and effective homemaker. In no way is it a simple task.
Creating a healthful enviornment, healthy meals and knowing some of those much maligned "old wives remedies" (from which a lot of modern medicine is indebted to) is a valuable contribution to society.
There is no reason a stay at home mother/wife can´t be a contributing member of society, particularly in light of today´s Internet options. I think we should rethink things. Why should women have to fit into the male model?
Can´t we expand and have a more evolved method. Certainly the way male careers have evloved has been to their advantage. What about females? Why try to fid a round peg in a square hole?
As for what parent is dominant, that is up to the family. Sometimes it´s the female, other times it´s the male.
Aðzýný öpeyim Alameda kardeþim (don´t be scared, this is a saying when somebody says something really fantastic)
Yes, why do we put the female in a male shape, but not actually concentrate on improving our own shape?
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12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:24 pm |
Making a child is something that can be done within minutes (seconds? ), raising one is something different to me. A gay couple (m/m of f/f) can be wonderful parents in my view and still the ´making of´ can be done traditional.... (or you go to THE bank..... )
Yes, my dear Trudy, i just said in case, somebody wants to get into some fight about, we don´t need man to make babies, blah blah.. you know..
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12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:26 pm |
Actually, I think the idea that it´s "more enlightened" for women to have outside careers is the problem. I don´t see what is wrong with a woman being a stay at home mother/wife.
There is no reason she can´t be educated, in fact she should be educated. There is a lot to learn to be an efficient and effective homemaker. In no way is it a simple task.
Creating a healthful enviornment, healthy meals and knowing some of those much maligned "old wives remedies" (from which a lot of modern medicine is indebted to) is a valuable contribution to society.
There is no reason a stay at home mother/wife can´t be a contributing member of society, particularly in light of today´s Internet options. I think we should rethink things. Why should women have to fit into the male model?
Can´t we expand and have a more evolved method. Certainly the way male careers have evloved has been to their advantage. What about females? Why try to fid a round peg in a square hole?
As for what parent is dominant, that is up to the family. Sometimes it´s the female, other times it´s the male.
hmmm? How did my post require that explanation?
As for "she".... I fit the role as "she" in any scenerio, so no need to explain to me what is required of "her".
I don´t see anywhere that I had said or even implied the woman should fit into the male mold. Your talking evolution of women, when we haven´t even leveled up to men yet.
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12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:31 pm |
hmmm? How did my post require that explanation?
As for "she".... I fit the role as "she" in any scenerio, so no need to explain to me what is required of "her".
I don´t see anywhere that I had said or even implied the woman should fit into the male mold. Your talking evolution of women, when we haven´t even leveled up to men yet.
That´s the point, we don´t have to level up, we have to set our own world.. and we should appreciate every women in society.
As my first example, we are not the same thing as men like two glasses are, we are different. We are stronger and much more intelligent, practical, organised. We should embrace this difference.. I think the road to equality is not the way we are going... It is about setting the criteria right.
I am a full time mum by choice. I am educated, and of course, I don´t want to praise myself, but you know
so why am I not counted for in this ranking????
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12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:32 pm |
I can help you with that.. I really appreciate your situation..
What I meant was not really to say, women should be uneducated, or slaves.. but what i meant working is not everything... you can not jugde the woman equality, or happiness with having a job.
And I really don´t like the attitude of people, who work and thinks they are more worthy, more educated, more intelligent then a full time mum..
I have to agree with you on this one...
I stopped working in order to raise my two kids, one of them is still a toddler. I feel offended when people label me as "femme au foyer" (a housewife), as if staying at home means you are NOT working...
Solving a multiobjective simulation-optimization problem is way much easier than being a "femme au foyer", believe me on this one 
I do not believe in labeling people. If a woman chooses not to work and raise her kids and she can afford it (since not everyone can afford not working and thus have less income), this should not make her uneducated, less intelligent etc etc
On the other hand, blaming the working women for problems in the society, dysfunctional families etc, is unacceptable.
someone said once: it is my dad the head of the family but my mom is the neck, she turns him wherever she wants 
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12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:34 pm |
someone said once: it is my dad the head of the family but my mom is the neck, she turns him wherever she wants 
This is from My Big Fat Greek Wedding...
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12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:35 pm |
This is from My Big Fat Greek Wedding...
Probably far before that, I´ve heard my grandma saying it when I was a child.
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12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:36 pm |
Probably far before that, I´ve heard my grandma saying it when I was a child.
I think there lies the message, why want to be the head, while you are the neck??
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