Well.

That may look like I am taking the things too far..But however, there are people in Turkey and they think that adding those 3 letters is not a bad idea.

I dont care that much to be honest is they are included or not. I mentioned that alphabet is not that important..it should not be treated as ´ah it is a pure Turkish thing and it will be contaminated´.

Because, personally, I dont think it will be contaminated.. It is an alphabet..We adopted it less than 100 years ago..We  deliberately excluded some of the words. They could have been included at the time..they can be included now..

It is not a great deal!!  

But denying some Kurdish names is an important issue..

In the end, we do have a problem here: 

We have our citizens here..Some of them are having w, x in their names..

We have a citizen there and his name is ´welat´ for example

-He wants to register his name as welat.

What we are saying :

- ´NO you can not..Because we do not have W in our alphabet´

-Then why can not we add w into alphabet?

-No it will be contaminate our alphabet.

Well in the end, what do we do?

We do have a problem..

Check how many of these Turks posting here will accept that person´s right to register his name!!

TheH - exactly! The issue is not the alphabet but willingness of the Turkish government to recognise Kurds as minority/separate ethnical group and granting them the right to use their language, place names and proper names according to their own spelling as well as allowing them celebrate their holidays and practising customs that do not contradict the Turkish law.

This way, the Turkish alphabet would stay as it is and nobody would pointlessly tamper with it, Kurds would feel appreciated and the Turkish government would have something to prove that they want all citizens feel at home in their country. Assimilating doesn´t mean surpressing but rather granting rights within reasonable limits. A small gesture like allowing registering proper names and place names could be beneficial for both sides at a relatively small price

SAID, WERE DESTROYED, WAS DENIED...I see the past tense here, now I haven´t heard any news about villages being destroyed,  there is even a Kurdish-language tv channel now in Turkey, yet many Kurds who expressed their support were called ´Kurds of the State´ by the PKK shills known as DTP, the ones someone here thinks are some heroic band of Robin Hoods standing up for the oppressed.

How about if the Kurds showed some support to the AKP for giving them TRT-6, of course not, millions of them (but not all) preferred to vote for the racist ethnicity-based party who insulted fellow Kurds who showed support to the new tv station, but yes, I forgot the left´s usual double standard,  an ethnicicty-based nationalist party who doesn´t idolize Che Guevara, Öcalan or another violent ´liberator of the poor´ is a big bad fascist party, but when a party promotes an ethnicity-based nationalist program but identifies itself as ´left´,  it´s not racist or bigoted, how convenient.

I am not sure you are sure what you are talking about Ice..

I mentioned several times here  that I find Ocalan or Apo ´quite primitive´ and still surprised why he is that popular among the Kurds..

Please read a bit more about the subject..

The fact that he´s still popular amongst some Kurds should highlight the fact that racist fanatics dreaming of ethnically pure homelands  are not found only on the Turkish side, so they too should take a good look at themselves instead of just playing the victim.

If you consider Öcalan and his friends as primitive that´s good to hear, I completely agree with you on this, his ´thinking´ is just a relic from the 60´s when the Cuban example (and Soviet/Eastern European wasted money) set a bad precedent for terrorist groups springing up to take up the cause of every minority.

Well

I will keep telling you to read..If you have read, you would have seen that it has been long Ocalan decided NOT to demand for a pure homeland..

Apo or PKK are not asking for a separate country (that has been for a long time actually).

They want to live with Turks in the existing borders!!

So your argument is not valid!!

But, why do you think Ocalan is that popular among the Kurds?

Do you really think that "one morning", we suddenly decided that ´ah we were wrong to say that there are no kurds. Actually there are kurds and there is a language called Kurdish as well´?  

The main matter on this problem Kurdish side not to enough  genuine on their demands,and they never declared their demands  clearly  paragraph by paragraph till today by hiding behind democratical rights.Ýf  they want a definite&permanent solution they must be more genuine,otherwise this huge problem will take many innocent lifes...

Funny they would want that, considering they have not abandoned arms have they? I will believe PKK´s honest intentions when they decide to give up armed struggle, and surrender their weapons, as long as they are in arms, I will not believe in their good intentions.

yeah.

Good intentions are not enough

You should join hands

And raise ´em up

Handsom, you are trying to get rid of mosquitoes instead of drying the swamp.

The primary problem of the Kurds is to eliminate the feudal system in which they have been living their lives for thousands years. As some here know they still live in tribes that are called aþiret where one chief (aþiret reisi) resides with absolute authority over the tribe,often owning most of the land the aþiret live on. Only those who somehow moved the other parts of the country may have freedom and their own lands to operate. Unless the feudal system in the region eliminated, no problem will be solved. Do you think being able t0 use the letters q, w, x or having the road signs in kurdish makes sense to a people who are starving from hunger and demanding for food? Didn´t you see on TV the poor in Diyarbakýr crushing each other to reach the lorry on which the municipality gave bread for free? Do you think those 3 letters or any other stupid idea will fill their empty stomachs? An aþiret reisi driving Ferrari may need the road signs in Kurdish, but a poor maraba even with no donkey to ride never needs them. The key of the problem is the land reform.If you really want democracy for Kurds, you must start with land reform.The rest of the ideas are just a pile of rubbish.    

Good points scalpel.  You say people are starving but when you take a closer look at the number of average children in a family (one husband and more than one wife is not something uncommon), isn´t it a paradox? How can they have so many children if they are starving?